Tiburons and Supercharging

I'm in the market for a 2005 Tiburon...I've been a fan of the new Tibs for a few years now, since I first saw the 2003's, but I've held off, considering that the car I have now is reliable and I've been ambivalent about their ability to run with more boost...a la supercharging...

So, I'm wondering...what type of fuel do you have to use with an Alpine? Is 93 octane required, or can you run lower octanes without catastrophic failure? (ie, *boom*crunch*oh God, there goes $25,000 just because I bought cheap gas)...

Also, what is the reliability of the Delta engine? Well, perhaps that's phrased stupidly, since the engine was DESIGNED for reliability in the first place...

Don't get me wrong...I'm a HUGE Tiburon fan, for my money, there is NO other import with looks as good as this puppy...I've checked out others rides for inspiration and info, but am just slightly hesitant about taking the plunge...

Also, just for curiousities sake, is the engine out of the XG-350 compatible with the six-speed tranny in the Tiburon?

the Xg-350 engine swap has been done before... mostly jus for turbo purposes... i havent heard anything about needing to swap out the trannies... not worth it in my opinion

so its down to the i-4 and the v6
the Beta II can handle pretty much anything you throw at it, its built very well and responds so well to boost.
there are only turbo applications out for the i-4 as of right now.. no super chargers as of yet.
the Beta II doesnt respond as well to N/A mods as it does with forced induction.

the Delta (V6 engine) is built very well also (dispite it being a hyundai)
the engine can apparently take about 450 whp before it shows signs of it falling apart around 400-415 beofre the rods start giving way

alpine developments designed the first s/c for the tib and has been proven over time and has made hundreds of tib owners happy.
they have 3 stages now..
stage 0
stage 1
stage 2

nxtgenmotorsports.com took the alpine (literally) to the max!
they have all of alpines stages (0-2)
but also have their versions of stages
fuel tuners/ new internals/ long blocks/ short blocks ... the list goes on

ripp mods has an s/c out for the tib but is not released to teh public yet (proto typers are still being tested)
its putting down about 317 whp when it was correctly tuned... thats stage 2.. they have 2 stages

(both ripp mods and nxtgen's sites are listed in the stickied thread)

there are 2 custom turbo kits out that people have made for the V6..
and nxtgen should be coming out with his own turbo application soon (within a week or 2) ... it ssupose to be a monster.. and very inexpensive

also theres the AXIS Twin Turbo kit... that is from korea.. needs to be imported and etc etc.. very expensive but putting down about 400whp (on an auto) and its runnin in the 12s.. i think

can you tell me any sites where i could get a supercharger?

so u all want superchargers?? well ive been looking for one too up untill today when someone suggested twin turbo.... first i will need to kno what your tib is inline 4 or the v6. there are no superchargers available for the i-4 just yet but for the gt you will find what u need here... let me know if u have anymore questions..

http://www.nxtgenmotorsports.com/

haha you took the words right outa my mouth!

I was asking if the six-speed transmission from the Tiburon would work with the XG engine...
There is no way I'm going back to a four-cylinder automatic "sport" car...*had a 1987 Dodge Charger as a first car, and hated every second of getting up to highway speed*...
So obviously I'll be getting the GT-V6...but I was just curious about the XG engine, because when you start out with a bigger powerplant, it's easier to make power...and let's face it, more torque is always a nice thing, even in 2+2 hatchbacks...since I'm currently driving a Jeep Cherokee Sport with a straight shift, losing hp and fun is NOT something I'm looking for...

yea you could do the swap if u had the money.... like nisco said b4 its been done b4 but who knows what they did to make it work ill try to find out

uh...another dumb question, whats the difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger?

uh...another dumb question, whats the difference between a supercharger and a turbocharger?
youre gonna have to search for that

the only big diff between a s/c and turbo is that the s/c runs off the engine and the turbo runs off exhaust but has lag..

Alright, now that everyone understands about the differences between turbo and super, perhaps I can ask THIS question!

After dropping on an Alpine, do you have to switch to 93 octane? I'm not willing to get bigger power (you have to remember that I'm a Jeep Cherokee Sport guy at the moment, so I'm USED to power) at the cost of...well...blowing up my engine because of knocking and pinging...

I don't know if this is just an old mechanics tale, an urban legend, or just car owner nightmare stories, but that would absolutely friggin suck...because what are you going to do if (and I've seen this with my own eyes) you're at the pump and they're out of high-test?

You're miles away from any other station, your car is on fumes...kind of redefines the word "suck" to me...

ok im really not sure about this one but i was checkin their website out and it says nothing about switching so i dont think its required but do smoe more research and let me know what u find.... anymore questions?

Alright, now that everyone understands about the differences between turbo and super, perhaps I can ask THIS question!

After dropping on an Alpine, do you have to switch to 93 octane? I'm not willing to get bigger power (you have to remember that I'm a Jeep Cherokee Sport guy at the moment, so I'm USED to power) at the cost of...well...blowing up my engine because of knocking and pinging...

I don't know if this is just an old mechanics tale, an urban legend, or just car owner nightmare stories, but that would absolutely friggin suck...because what are you going to do if (and I've seen this with my own eyes) you're at the pump and they're out of high-test?

You're miles away from any other station, your car is on fumes...kind of redefines the word "suck" to me...

the gas you use... depends on the ecu/ ecu upgrade...
http://www.real-engineering.com/products.php search around here.. they do custom ecu tuning to your request/ what youll need for your engine set up

Now that's just sexy...now that I know that I won't have to worry too bad about going broke paying for premium gas or blowing up my engine, I am supremely comforted...

All I have to do now is sit back and wait for the slowass dealerships to get in a black 2005 GT-V6

nice an 05 BLACK gt... sweet
good choice

humm. ok. the octane level you use depends on what your trying to do. the higher the octane the harder it is to spark in whe quench area. thats why people use diffrent plugs and wires when useing turbos. lower octane fuel has a tendency to ingnite faster before reaching the quench area durring the timing cycle. (i dont know specificly what the 4 stroke cycle looks like in the tib) giving more knock or detination. so higher octane gas is nessissary. as for your engine going Tits up. your ecu and knock sensors as well as cas's will know whats going on and pull timming advance so that dosn't happen. thats were the term "tuning" comes in.

as for swaping, keep the i-4 cvvt it will prove better reliableity and gas milage. i would though be intrested in seeing somone buy the new Tuson interactive toqure mangment AWD system with electronic stebility controle and install it on their tib. they should be a dirrect bolt. i think its a matter of time before hyundai comes out with a Elantra awd. sence the tuson is on the unibody from the elantra.

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There is nothing like being blown :naughty: !!!http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/576000-576999/576192_108_full.jpg

dang thats tight

dang thats tight
thanx, man. It's a labor of love. I'm sure you know what I mean...

Posted by Rickna - 01-30-2005 at 10:00 PM
Quote: thanx, man. It's a labor of love. I'm sure you know what I mean...

nah yo what you mean

Posted by Rickna - 01-30-2005 at 10:00 PM
Quote: thanx, man. It's a labor of love. I'm sure you know what I mean...

nah yo what you mean
You #1 funny mofo

aww you are making me blush

Awwww geezzzz:naughty:

<== standing there confused....


quit flirtin with each other...

Wasssa matter? you jealous?

he is definetly jealous may be one day you'll get yours nisco

Just teasing...:rofl:

hahahahahahahahah !!!!!! ... crazy guys hahahah

hahaha.... nisco and rickna you are the best

im in a posting kinda mood... so ima post up some pic of engine bays for you guys..... alpines/ ripps/ n/as... anything....
(alpines)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/597000-597999/597731_32_full.jpg
http://www.westnet.com/~laura/March%2025,%202004%20021.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/309000-309999/309045_168_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/393000-393999/393537_28_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/308000-308999/308143_82_full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/m3lavaorange/NXTGENStage2.jpg

all motor/ nitrous assisted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/m3lavaorange/EngineBay.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/278000-278999/278567_44_full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/Stevegel/2.jpg

Ripp set ups.....
http://www.nitrousworld.com/pictures/DSC01549.JPG
http://www.clubhyundaiquebec.com/zone-photos-videos/2004-08-tibfest/DSCN7926.jpg
http://www.clubhyundaiquebec.com/zone-photos-videos/2004-08-tibfest/DSCN7950.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/dzignrconcepts/tiburon/SDS-Pic.jpg
http://www.rippmods.com/documents/images/sharedpictures/DMAN-001F.jpg

theres more around.. i jus gotta find them...

Yo nisco, let's see some pics of ur ride. Make me drool!

Yo nisco, let's see some pics of ur ride. Make me drool!i have my old car domain page: http://www.cardomain.com/id/nisco but that was last year.... thanksgiving...
i ordered the following:
Zefiro GT kit: http://www.real-engineering.com/gallery/albun45 (4 pages)
Zefiro c/f hood: http://www.real-engineering.com/gallery/albun15
Zefiro c/f mirrors: http://www.real-engineering.com/gallery/albun53 (2 pages)
Zefiro c/f front lip and side skirt diffusors: http://www.real-engineering.com/gallery/album37/aai
Shuk custom wheels (custom size/ offset): http://www.real-engineering.com/gallery/albuo08/aaa
ordering the cozy tech hydraulic suspension (one more paycheck!!!)
also sitting in my room rigth behind me.. Club GTR italio spoiler, Tomato ANP c/f c-pillars, and some other stuff...

im dying for my stuff to come in already...

i havent touched my engine yet cause i dont knwo what i want exactly.. so i see no point in going 1 direction then changing my mind and going another...

right now im looking into a custom whipple (twin screw) super charger.... hopefully we can get something going with that soon!

im in a posting kinda mood... so ima post up some pic of engine bays for you guys..... alpines/ ripps/ n/as... anything....
(alpines)
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/597000-597999/597731_32_full.jpg
http://www.westnet.com/~laura/March%2025,%202004%20021.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/309000-309999/309045_168_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/393000-393999/393537_28_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/308000-308999/308143_82_full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/m3lavaorange/NXTGENStage2.jpg

all motor/ nitrous assisted
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/m3lavaorange/EngineBay.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/278000-278999/278567_44_full.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/Stevegel/2.jpg

NISCO!!!! i just finished a post saying that i cant find any halo projector head lights... the second pic there has them on that tib, do u know how i could get some??

NISCO!!!! i just finished a post saying that i cant find any halo projector head lights... the second pic there has them on that tib, do u know how i could get some??
those are angel eye head lights... a guy used to do them and sell them as kits// as whole head light assemblies, but not anymore
k-spec i think still sells the kit/ directions

Yo nisco, let's see some pics of ur ride. Make me drool!Sure, make me drool more than I am already with these outstanding tib pics. :banghead:

I envy you all. Those tibs are making me wish I had a two car garage and the money to buy one.

i really like the color painted ones.
The red one is really nice.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/309000-309999/309045_168_full.jpg

But the blue one is to die for...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/m3lavaorange/EngineBay.jpg

Now the air filter set up on this one is way way cool.
http://www.rippmods.com/documents/images/sharedpictures/DMAN-001F.jpg

Now I might be showing my niaveness, but what is the stub like canister in the middle of the pipe from the filter to the intercooler?
Also the pipe in front of the engine.

BTW nisco, thanks for posting those pics and I fixed your car domain link, it wasn't set right.

TS out (still drooling)

I think that "canister" looking thing ia blow off valve.

I think that "canister" looking thing ia blow off valve.
yep... ripp's BOV (blow off valve) ... theyre not jus for turbos....

TS.. you have a sante Fe right?... what engine? 2.7 or 3.5?

The 2.7 since its a 2002. The 3.5 came out much later. :banghead:

TS out

The 2.7 since its a 2002. The 3.5 came out much later. :banghead:

TS out
haha! well i dont see why any of these set ups wont work... you have teh delta, and so do all these tibs!
do you have a pic of your engine bay, or any sante fe for that matter with the 2.7?

On my website in the Gallery section.

TS out

Edit: Oh the heck with it, here you go...Ignore the dirt. :smile:

http://santafemods.com/images/Strutbar/05Strutbar.JPG (http://santafemods.com/)

I don't know about RIPP, but according to alpine it will work.
http://www.alpine-developments.co.za/super_charge.htm

hmm.. any pics without the engine cover?

hmm.. any pics without the engine cover?
Oh, so you're into the naked engine thing...LOL

nisco i like the rims and rickna every guy has his own fantasys no need to give him a hard time

Oh, so you're into the naked engine thing...LOL:lol:
hmm.. any pics without the engine cover?
No I do not, actually I never thought of taken that engine cover off. I should, (one day). But you are right it should be the same 2.7 L engine.

TS out

Hey, I get off on naked engine just as much as the next guy...LOL

Hey, I get off on naked engine just as much as the next guy...LOL
what i do on my own time is none of your business!!! :mad: :evillol:

a naked engine right away isnt my thing you dont know what kind of diseases it has i like mine ot have just a little bit on then work to get it naked

hey anybody know where i can find a ram air hood for an 03 tib gt

hey anybody know where i can find a ram air hood for an 03 tib gt
noone makes one....
you got a pic of what type of hood you have in mind tho?

think trans am.

its the first one on the left side of http://www.importshark.com/store/exterior.htm but i was lookin for the 03 year, i think the 550 is nasty lookin

yeah that hood...... blah... but it might appeal to some people

To each his/her own...

yup suppose ill hafta go with a different style