No Spark (HELP ME)!!!!!!!!!!!!!
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 01:52 AM
I have a 88 honda crx SI. It has a 89 acura integra moter in it. i am getting no spark. I have tryed everything. New distrubutor, new coil, new control module, new wires, new plugs. I did the timing. I have tried everything. please help me. If you know anything else i can try let me no.
crxlvr
01-02-2005, 01:54 AM
check the gap on the plugs and the wires themselves.
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 02:01 AM
i have done that two. i cant figure it out.
crxlvr
01-02-2005, 02:09 AM
change the cap, rotor? check the voltage going to the plugs?
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 02:14 AM
I have change those to. the distrubuter gets power.but there is no spark?
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 02:22 AM
could it be the main realy under the dash by the hood opener. I heared if that was out then the distrubitor will not spark. I am not sure if thats true or not.
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 03:01 AM
somebody help me?
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 04:18 AM
The moter cranks over and everything but there is no spark. Nothing comes from the wires
johnb16a2
01-02-2005, 08:31 AM
Is the rotor securely attached and indexed correctly?
91civichatch2571
01-02-2005, 12:01 PM
check all grounds
CBURKE
01-02-2005, 12:27 PM
ck ECU.
91b16turbohatch
01-02-2005, 12:34 PM
yea man i got the same prob. SO SOMEONE HELP!!!!!
soccerplaya
01-03-2005, 12:41 AM
i have tried all of those
91b16turbohatch
01-03-2005, 01:38 AM
try the main realy
crxlvr
01-03-2005, 12:34 PM
go with the main relay for now, under your hood release inside the car.
soccerplaya
01-03-2005, 04:22 PM
I tryed replacing that to. Still nothing
soccerplaya
01-04-2005, 12:34 AM
i have tryed the main relay and that didnt work. I called the honda dealer and asked them. They said that i have tried everything that they would have. The guy said that the next step is to in depth diagnostic. How would you do that
crxlvr
01-04-2005, 09:03 AM
get yourself a helms manual and a multimeter.
soccerplaya
01-04-2005, 02:09 PM
All the wires work to the distrubuter they all have resistance. I used a multimeter. What else could i check with the multimeter? I have the chilton manual for it.
1990civicdxhb
01-04-2005, 04:28 PM
you may have got some bad wires/plugs/module/coil,
when you bought them brand new,
its happened before & it could probably happen again,
my mechanic said he would be over here at 5:30,
he should know some symptoms for this problem,
I'll write back.
when you bought them brand new,
its happened before & it could probably happen again,
my mechanic said he would be over here at 5:30,
he should know some symptoms for this problem,
I'll write back.
1PhatCX
01-04-2005, 05:20 PM
has the car been running before? do u have the right dizzy? is it wired correctly? no wires cut anywhere? firing orders correct? timing belt is right? coil is hooked up right? put the cap on right? put the screw in the rotor to hold it?
bambam89lx
01-04-2005, 08:16 PM
no codes? there's gotta be codes...even if the check engine light isn't on, check for codes. Ur sure you here the fuel pump "hum" when you turn the key to on?
soccerplaya
01-07-2005, 01:48 AM
Yes the cars has been running before. Iwas driving it down the road and then it just died. My tach. peaked right before it died. Yes i have the right dizzy. Yes the coil is hooked up. its a new dizzy. new coil,New ICM, new wires, new plugs, new main relay. I did the timing. The timing belt is fine.
soccerplaya
01-07-2005, 01:49 AM
oh ya and there isno codes. i have put two diffrent computers in it to.
arodg25
01-07-2005, 01:54 AM
is it mabey posible that he could have installed the new dizzy 180 degrees off?
4G4D Store
01-07-2005, 02:13 AM
Usually if the dizy if off 180 degrees you'll get back fire. One thing for you to double check - from the coil to the cap there is a long pin backed with a spring. It's possible that you broke that pin while putting on or off and now it's not connecting. I've done it myself. Double check that - it's easily over looked. Also, make sure all your wires inside the dizy are tightly screwed down. I had my tach wire come loose once, so it does happen. Other than that I'd say try another dizzy. I've gotten a bad one before myself. Hope this helps.
soccerplaya
01-07-2005, 02:31 AM
The pin is not broken. i have checked that to. i am thinking that i mit have gotten a bad dizzy. I well try and get a new one agian.
bambam89lx
01-07-2005, 05:15 PM
I think i have the solution.....sounds like this is the problem....
check the ground on your thermostat. I have a REALLY good feeling it's either not tight or it's not connected. If it isn't that, make sure all the other grounds are connected too...valve cover and the tranny to chassis then chassis to negative terminal on the battery....
I don't think I'm wrong on this one tho...because the RPM spike sounds %100 like a bad or broken ground at the thermostat. That is the ground for your engine wiring harness...
check the ground on your thermostat. I have a REALLY good feeling it's either not tight or it's not connected. If it isn't that, make sure all the other grounds are connected too...valve cover and the tranny to chassis then chassis to negative terminal on the battery....
I don't think I'm wrong on this one tho...because the RPM spike sounds %100 like a bad or broken ground at the thermostat. That is the ground for your engine wiring harness...
1990civicdxhb
01-07-2005, 06:52 PM
take you tach wire off,from the distributor 1st,
& see if it will start.
& see if it will start.
2CrX
01-07-2005, 10:38 PM
Is it getting 12v at the coil?
soccerplaya
01-08-2005, 12:56 AM
its getting 10 volts to the coil. I well check thegrounds tommarow.
91civichatch2571
01-08-2005, 10:46 AM
Im agreeing with the ground issue. If all the original grounds are good, try running a ground wire from one of the 2 bolts holding the starter on to the chassis. This happened to me one time, the starter is supposed to ground itself out throught the bolts into the block but for some reason, mine werent. slapped the ground on there and it started right up.
soccerplaya
01-08-2005, 11:43 AM
I well try doing that. Thanks
soccerplaya
01-08-2005, 03:01 PM
I did the grounds and still nothing. I am getting a diffrent dizzy tonight. Hopefully that well fix it. If not i am going to be very mad.
soccerplaya
01-09-2005, 01:14 AM
it is throwing a code know. Its throwing code 6/ Which is the coolent temp. sensor. Would that keep it from starting.
1990civicdxhb
01-09-2005, 02:28 AM
I dont believe that there is any grounds to the thermostat housing,
well.....at least I dont have any,
theres a ground to the starter right by the thermostat housing.
well.....at least I dont have any,
theres a ground to the starter right by the thermostat housing.
bambam89lx
01-09-2005, 11:45 AM
I dont believe that there is any grounds to the thermostat housing,
well.....at least I dont have any,
theres a ground to the starter right by the thermostat housing.
do you even know where ur thermostat is? lol....all 4g civics have a ground at the thermostat, as well as all the never years, and integras, etc.
well.....at least I dont have any,
theres a ground to the starter right by the thermostat housing.
do you even know where ur thermostat is? lol....all 4g civics have a ground at the thermostat, as well as all the never years, and integras, etc.
bambam89lx
01-09-2005, 11:47 AM
I did the grounds and still nothing. I am getting a diffrent dizzy tonight. Hopefully that well fix it. If not i am going to be very mad.
I don't think so, i had my unplugged for the longest time on my old hatch. But, it could be that it is cut somewhere and grounding out maybe?
check it out, it's on the back of the block near the oil filter.
I don't think so, i had my unplugged for the longest time on my old hatch. But, it could be that it is cut somewhere and grounding out maybe?
check it out, it's on the back of the block near the oil filter.
1PhatCX
01-09-2005, 12:49 PM
depends on what temp sensor its for, if its for the rad fan, its the back of the block, if its for the gauge then its the side of the head under the dizzy.
and neither of my motors had a ground on the thermostat housing. all i have is a 4 guage from the rad support to the valve cover, 4 gauge from tranny to body to neg on battery, 8 gauge from body to starter and thats it
and neither of my motors had a ground on the thermostat housing. all i have is a 4 guage from the rad support to the valve cover, 4 gauge from tranny to body to neg on battery, 8 gauge from body to starter and thats it
amy@af
01-09-2005, 01:01 PM
do you even know where ur thermostat is?
i do! :grinno:
http://www.binghamtonlife.com/manual/2gsm/images/91-10-6.jpg
if you really think that problem is the dizzy or within the dizzy there is a simple test you can do. pull 1 spark plug out and ground it to something like touching it to your valve cover. have somebody crank over your car while you watch for spark. no spark = something is wrong with or within the dizzy.
just like evrybody else said, check all grounds.
i do! :grinno:
http://www.binghamtonlife.com/manual/2gsm/images/91-10-6.jpg
if you really think that problem is the dizzy or within the dizzy there is a simple test you can do. pull 1 spark plug out and ground it to something like touching it to your valve cover. have somebody crank over your car while you watch for spark. no spark = something is wrong with or within the dizzy.
just like evrybody else said, check all grounds.
soccerplaya
01-09-2005, 10:50 PM
I tried pulling the spark plug out and putting up agienst the block and the was no spark. i well check the grounds agian. i didnt get a chance to work on it today because it snowed. hopefull i well get to work on it tommarow.
amy@af
01-10-2005, 11:06 AM
no spark = no spark thru the dizzy. so yea...check grounds, spark plug wires, dizzy, and the ignitor and coil within the dizzy.
snow sucks...it finally quit snowing here.
snow sucks...it finally quit snowing here.
soccerplaya
01-11-2005, 02:35 PM
i put the new dizzy in and now the computer is throwing a code. code 15. Ignition output signal. What could be causeing that?
a91civic
01-11-2005, 05:47 PM
What about the altormator? you had said the the tach spiked before it died. I would think you would still get a spark though if the alt was bad??
bambam89lx
01-12-2005, 05:18 PM
depends on what temp sensor its for, if its for the rad fan, its the back of the block, if its for the gauge then its the side of the head under the dizzy.
and neither of my motors had a ground on the thermostat housing. all i have is a 4 guage from the rad support to the valve cover, 4 gauge from tranny to body to neg on battery, 8 gauge from body to starter and thats it
I still beg to differ....
take a pic of your thermostat for me...i gotta see this!
I've worked with hundreds of civics, integras, and crx's. I've never seen one without the ground on the thermostat. That ground is necessary as it is the ground for your actual engine wiring harness.
and neither of my motors had a ground on the thermostat housing. all i have is a 4 guage from the rad support to the valve cover, 4 gauge from tranny to body to neg on battery, 8 gauge from body to starter and thats it
I still beg to differ....
take a pic of your thermostat for me...i gotta see this!
I've worked with hundreds of civics, integras, and crx's. I've never seen one without the ground on the thermostat. That ground is necessary as it is the ground for your actual engine wiring harness.
1PhatCX
01-13-2005, 07:42 AM
ok, when it stops raining and when i'm not working i will get a pic for u
bambam89lx
01-18-2005, 08:06 PM
still waiting
1PhatCX
01-19-2005, 10:48 AM
i know, and its still snowing and minus 20 before the windchill, i cant drive for 5 minutes because my feet go numb so i've been trying to stay inside as much as possible, dont worry, i'll show u tho
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