2.3L 1V 4cyl 88hp -- all stock
Nasorean
01-01-2005, 11:45 PM
its time to upgrade/restore the car and i need parts, the really annoying thing is that everywhere i go, online and off, the parts being sold are for the 5.0 engine.
--there are of course some differences between the two, but are the parts avail for the 5.0--cold air intake, and other bolt on parts compatible w the 2.3?
thanks
--there are of course some differences between the two, but are the parts avail for the 5.0--cold air intake, and other bolt on parts compatible w the 2.3?
thanks
silverstangs
01-02-2005, 12:22 AM
its time to upgrade/restore the car and i need parts, the really annoying thing is that everywhere i go, online and off, the parts being sold are for the 5.0 engine.
--there are of course some differences between the two, but are the parts avail for the 5.0--cold air intake, and other bolt on parts compatible w the 2.3?
thanks
Well.......
the full suspension between the GT's, LX's and 2.3L 4 bangers are interchangable. what ever you can bolt up to a GT, you can do the same with the 4 banger. Same thing with the full interior. So anything put into the car is interchangeable.
There is a K & N air filter that you can use, but things are going to be engine specific. Unless your gonna get drastic and chop a 5.0-H-pipe in half and use half a cat back, there is not much to bolt on.
The biggest improvement will be to add a turbo, similar to the SVO stuff. You can always port and polish the heads, and bump the compression up a bit, even bore it out a little. You can also port and polish the throttle body and the intake. You need to look at the cosworth parts for the 2.3L engine.
You can go to these links for performance parts for the 2.3L Ford engines.
http://modernperformanceinc.com/
http://www.motion-dynamics.net/
--there are of course some differences between the two, but are the parts avail for the 5.0--cold air intake, and other bolt on parts compatible w the 2.3?
thanks
Well.......
the full suspension between the GT's, LX's and 2.3L 4 bangers are interchangable. what ever you can bolt up to a GT, you can do the same with the 4 banger. Same thing with the full interior. So anything put into the car is interchangeable.
There is a K & N air filter that you can use, but things are going to be engine specific. Unless your gonna get drastic and chop a 5.0-H-pipe in half and use half a cat back, there is not much to bolt on.
The biggest improvement will be to add a turbo, similar to the SVO stuff. You can always port and polish the heads, and bump the compression up a bit, even bore it out a little. You can also port and polish the throttle body and the intake. You need to look at the cosworth parts for the 2.3L engine.
You can go to these links for performance parts for the 2.3L Ford engines.
http://modernperformanceinc.com/
http://www.motion-dynamics.net/
stanger2500
01-02-2005, 04:13 AM
basically dude if you wanna have a faster car, either keep yours and put a 5.0 in it. Not cheap but it can be done, or just buy a 5.0 for like $4500 and put a little TLC into that. i have a 2.3 in my garage that I would have liked to drop a 5.0 into but never did. I have a lot of crap for that kinda stuff so if you need something or just want something let me know, Im not trying to make money.
Nasorean
01-02-2005, 12:12 PM
Well.......
the full suspension between the GT's, LX's and 2.3L 4 bangers are interchangable. what ever you can bolt up to a GT, you can do the same with the 4 banger. Same thing with the full interior. So anything put into the car is interchangeable.
There is a K & N air filter that you can use, but things are going to be engine specific. Unless your gonna get drastic and chop a 5.0-H-pipe in half and use half a cat back, there is not much to bolt on.
The biggest improvement will be to add a turbo, similar to the SVO stuff. You can always port and polish the heads, and bump the compression up a bit, even bore it out a little. You can also port and polish the throttle body and the intake. You need to look at the cosworth parts for the 2.3L engine.
You can go to these links for performance parts for the 2.3L Ford engines.
http://modernperformanceinc.com/
http://www.motion-dynamics.net/
thanks for the links they are incredible! i figured the suspension was interchangable but i wasnt gonna make a thousand dollar mistake. the turbo is incredibly inexpensive at modernperformance so i am considering that. so far as polishing n stuff goes, given the age of the car i think it may be needed, but i would like to check w the ford people about that and any alternatives that may be useful.
the full suspension between the GT's, LX's and 2.3L 4 bangers are interchangable. what ever you can bolt up to a GT, you can do the same with the 4 banger. Same thing with the full interior. So anything put into the car is interchangeable.
There is a K & N air filter that you can use, but things are going to be engine specific. Unless your gonna get drastic and chop a 5.0-H-pipe in half and use half a cat back, there is not much to bolt on.
The biggest improvement will be to add a turbo, similar to the SVO stuff. You can always port and polish the heads, and bump the compression up a bit, even bore it out a little. You can also port and polish the throttle body and the intake. You need to look at the cosworth parts for the 2.3L engine.
You can go to these links for performance parts for the 2.3L Ford engines.
http://modernperformanceinc.com/
http://www.motion-dynamics.net/
thanks for the links they are incredible! i figured the suspension was interchangable but i wasnt gonna make a thousand dollar mistake. the turbo is incredibly inexpensive at modernperformance so i am considering that. so far as polishing n stuff goes, given the age of the car i think it may be needed, but i would like to check w the ford people about that and any alternatives that may be useful.
Nasorean
01-02-2005, 12:22 PM
basically dude if you wanna have a faster car, either keep yours and put a 5.0 in it. Not cheap but it can be done, or just buy a 5.0 for like $4500 and put a little TLC into that. i have a 2.3 in my garage that I would have liked to drop a 5.0 into but never did. I have a lot of crap for that kinda stuff so if you need something or just want something let me know, Im not trying to make money.
so far as stuff i may need your experience would be the most valuable asset you have. pm me.
so far as stuff i may need your experience would be the most valuable asset you have. pm me.
MagicRat
01-02-2005, 01:32 PM
thanks for the links they are incredible! i figured the suspension was interchangable but i wasnt gonna make a thousand dollar mistake. the turbo is incredibly inexpensive at modernperformance so i am considering that. so far as polishing n stuff goes, given the age of the car i think it may be needed, but i would like to check w the ford people about that and any alternatives that may be useful.
Those were excellent links. However most of those mods were for factory 2.3 turbo engines, like those found in the SVO Mustang and the Thunderbird Turbo coupe. Internally they were different and somewhat stronger than a non turbo 2.3. Throwing their turbo kit etc at a stock block 2.3 would only break the bottom end if driven hard.
I have a 2.3 '88 LX in my fleet. I have considered all options for modifying it and found that it makes no economic sense to mod it when 5.0 Mustangs are plentiful and cheap.
However, some people like a challange, and a 4 cyl Mustang can be made to handle better than a nose-heavy 5.0. I would suggest find a T-Bird Turbo coupe driveline and drop the whole thing into your Mustang. If you can, pick up an entire Turbo coupe car and use the aluminum wheels, sway bars and suspension pieces too.
My Turbo coupe parts car has some neat other stuff too, like a bolt-in disc brake rear axle and excellent seats.
Those were excellent links. However most of those mods were for factory 2.3 turbo engines, like those found in the SVO Mustang and the Thunderbird Turbo coupe. Internally they were different and somewhat stronger than a non turbo 2.3. Throwing their turbo kit etc at a stock block 2.3 would only break the bottom end if driven hard.
I have a 2.3 '88 LX in my fleet. I have considered all options for modifying it and found that it makes no economic sense to mod it when 5.0 Mustangs are plentiful and cheap.
However, some people like a challange, and a 4 cyl Mustang can be made to handle better than a nose-heavy 5.0. I would suggest find a T-Bird Turbo coupe driveline and drop the whole thing into your Mustang. If you can, pick up an entire Turbo coupe car and use the aluminum wheels, sway bars and suspension pieces too.
My Turbo coupe parts car has some neat other stuff too, like a bolt-in disc brake rear axle and excellent seats.
Nasorean
01-02-2005, 02:23 PM
Those were excellent links. However most of those mods were for factory 2.3 turbo engines, like those found in the SVO Mustang and the Thunderbird Turbo coupe. Internally they were different and somewhat stronger than a non turbo 2.3. Throwing their turbo kit etc at a stock block 2.3 would only break the bottom end if driven hard.
I have a 2.3 '88 LX in my fleet. I have considered all options for modifying it and found that it makes no economic sense to mod it when 5.0 Mustangs are plentiful and cheap.
However, some people like a challange, and a 4 cyl Mustang can be made to handle better than a nose-heavy 5.0. I would suggest find a T-Bird Turbo coupe driveline and drop the whole thing into your Mustang. If you can, pick up an entire Turbo coupe car and use the aluminum wheels, sway bars and suspension pieces too.
My Turbo coupe parts car has some neat other stuff too, like a bolt-in disc brake rear axle and excellent seats.
yeah i thought of the turbo breaking the bottom after i posted so i ditched the idea and leaned toward a cold air intake. and i am way up to the challenge and would actually prefer better handling to speed.
so far as putting in a 5.0 or using a 5.0 i just remembered that a friend of mine has the 5.0 and i could porbably get it really cheap from him, or even salvage the parts. hmmmm....
I have a 2.3 '88 LX in my fleet. I have considered all options for modifying it and found that it makes no economic sense to mod it when 5.0 Mustangs are plentiful and cheap.
However, some people like a challange, and a 4 cyl Mustang can be made to handle better than a nose-heavy 5.0. I would suggest find a T-Bird Turbo coupe driveline and drop the whole thing into your Mustang. If you can, pick up an entire Turbo coupe car and use the aluminum wheels, sway bars and suspension pieces too.
My Turbo coupe parts car has some neat other stuff too, like a bolt-in disc brake rear axle and excellent seats.
yeah i thought of the turbo breaking the bottom after i posted so i ditched the idea and leaned toward a cold air intake. and i am way up to the challenge and would actually prefer better handling to speed.
so far as putting in a 5.0 or using a 5.0 i just remembered that a friend of mine has the 5.0 and i could porbably get it really cheap from him, or even salvage the parts. hmmmm....
silverstangs
01-02-2005, 11:46 PM
Those were excellent links. However most of those mods were for factory 2.3 turbo engines, like those found in the SVO Mustang and the Thunderbird Turbo coupe. Internally they were different and somewhat stronger than a non turbo 2.3. Throwing their turbo kit etc at a stock block 2.3 would only break the bottom end if driven hard.
I have a 2.3 '88 LX in my fleet. I have considered all options for modifying it and found that it makes no economic sense to mod it when 5.0 Mustangs are plentiful and cheap.
However, some people like a challange, and a 4 cyl Mustang can be made to handle better than a nose-heavy 5.0. I would suggest find a T-Bird Turbo coupe driveline and drop the whole thing into your Mustang. If you can, pick up an entire Turbo coupe car and use the aluminum wheels, sway bars and suspension pieces too.
My Turbo coupe parts car has some neat other stuff too, like a bolt-in disc brake rear axle and excellent seats.
Actually they will handle the 300-350hp without issues. The mustang is using the same block as the Merkur Xr4ti which not too many people know about. The Xr4ti uses the same 2.3L block and those came with turbos and was pushing 175hp. Ford dropped them in 1989. The 2.3L has alot more aftermarket support than what you all think. getting 300hp out of the 2.3L is a bit easier than the 3.8V6.
You all might want to check out these other sites I have for you all
http://www.forced4.com/
http://www.merkurdesktop.com/desktop.php
I'm pretty educated up on the Turbo 4's, because SVO mustang is one of my favorites. One day I had the bright idea of adding a turbo to my normal 4 banger, so I actually borred out a couple of 2.3L's engines to 101mm or almost 4 inches. I ended up with 2.55L or basically 155cubic inches, added a turbo from a Merkur at around 11psi and did about 203hp. Ran hot as hell, and idled like crap. It was a toy car, I abused the crap out of it. But I learned alot, like make sure you don't forget the oil pump unless you like pulling the engine out. poor car....... it was definately beat to death. Now I miss that thing. it'b been about 7 or 8 years since I had that little 4 banger...
I have a 2.3 '88 LX in my fleet. I have considered all options for modifying it and found that it makes no economic sense to mod it when 5.0 Mustangs are plentiful and cheap.
However, some people like a challange, and a 4 cyl Mustang can be made to handle better than a nose-heavy 5.0. I would suggest find a T-Bird Turbo coupe driveline and drop the whole thing into your Mustang. If you can, pick up an entire Turbo coupe car and use the aluminum wheels, sway bars and suspension pieces too.
My Turbo coupe parts car has some neat other stuff too, like a bolt-in disc brake rear axle and excellent seats.
Actually they will handle the 300-350hp without issues. The mustang is using the same block as the Merkur Xr4ti which not too many people know about. The Xr4ti uses the same 2.3L block and those came with turbos and was pushing 175hp. Ford dropped them in 1989. The 2.3L has alot more aftermarket support than what you all think. getting 300hp out of the 2.3L is a bit easier than the 3.8V6.
You all might want to check out these other sites I have for you all
http://www.forced4.com/
http://www.merkurdesktop.com/desktop.php
I'm pretty educated up on the Turbo 4's, because SVO mustang is one of my favorites. One day I had the bright idea of adding a turbo to my normal 4 banger, so I actually borred out a couple of 2.3L's engines to 101mm or almost 4 inches. I ended up with 2.55L or basically 155cubic inches, added a turbo from a Merkur at around 11psi and did about 203hp. Ran hot as hell, and idled like crap. It was a toy car, I abused the crap out of it. But I learned alot, like make sure you don't forget the oil pump unless you like pulling the engine out. poor car....... it was definately beat to death. Now I miss that thing. it'b been about 7 or 8 years since I had that little 4 banger...
fmfgnarly
01-03-2005, 04:56 AM
silverstangs, i also have an all stalk 4cyl mustang, and was wondering (im sure Nasorean is also) if you know of any more sites that have parts for this lil motor. the only one that i have found is http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/
Nasorean
01-14-2005, 01:55 PM
thanks everyone i amn gonna check out all these new sites that were just posted and reply in a couple hrs
dampachi
01-14-2005, 02:51 PM
If you're looking for power, you have two choices and they're both involving engine swaps. Swap in the factory SVO 2.3l turbo engine, or swap in the 5.0 302. These are of course if you're trying to make real power. If you want like 100hp even..by all means throw on some good ole' bolt ons.
gmartinez
01-14-2005, 05:01 PM
i would like to check w the ford people about that and any alternatives that may be useful.
I own an 86 4 banger (and i love it), also looking for stuff for my engine, please tell me if you find anything interesting.
I own an 86 4 banger (and i love it), also looking for stuff for my engine, please tell me if you find anything interesting.
bigbob
01-14-2005, 07:31 PM
you can get a 5.0 out of a junkyard for alot less than 4k cnat you???. i mean maybee the 5.0/tranny/rearend rebuild would cost that but the whole thing?
GTStang
01-15-2005, 02:37 AM
2.3 part junkies goto http://www.racerwalsh.com and get the fuck out of my forum!!!! :evillol:
silverstangs
01-15-2005, 06:44 AM
2.3 part junkies goto http://www.racerwalsh.com and get the fuck out of my forum!!!! :evillol:
Hater :evillol::evillol::lol2::lol2:
Hater :evillol::evillol::lol2::lol2:
Nasorean
01-15-2005, 05:20 PM
i have decided what i want to do
i am gonna replace the following parts
weather stripping
fuel injectors
fuel pump
fuel line/filter
header
cat
cat back
suspension
air intake
i figure all this stuff will cost around 2k$ and am gonna invest in all this over the course of a year or 2.
i'd like to keep some fuel economy and am wary about blowing up the car, so i am gonna go w some low level stuff. like i'll be getting the 110lph fuel pump, not the 255lph, 30lbs infectors, the fuel line i am replacing bc i feel that my current line is a bit defective as it has a slight leak due to the fact that it is the stock slide on and not a screw on version.
the headers are a must, as is the cat--mine is on its last leg--the cat back system is to finish the package. i think this is gonna be one of the first thing i work on since i need my car to commute and to commute i need to pass emmissions.
the suspension i NEED to upgrade/replace bc the car feels more like a boat in rough waters than a "fine american made automobile."
i am getting the injectors, headers from forced4.com, the suspension from steeda.com--i am leaning toward the 3 level replacement kit, although i am gonna contact the ford dealer about which parts i NEED to replace and more than likely save money. the cat and cat back system i am still shopping around for. the weather stripping is a part of regular maintenance and is also from steeda bc they have the best price.
so far as the air intake goes i have yet to find one that i like. i am looking for a cold air but my car does not have a mass air meter and i do not wanna put money in on adding one. actually i am thinking of building my own using a K&N filter and some tubing to the front of the car to get the full on air intake of freeway traffic. if any one has built their own intake i would appreciate some tips.
also here is the order i am gonna replace the stuff in, first, the weather stripping and air intake; second, the exhaust ; third, injectors; fourth, the fuel line; fifth, the fuel pump, and at the end the most expensive part is the suspension. if you guys have feedback on the order just reply and tell me what would be better and why.
i have also looked into getting a 5.0 engine and from the local retailers and online it would cost much more to get the engine plus the parts i need to replace in order to install it and the repairs the car needs anyway so that idea is out the window.
i am gonna replace the following parts
weather stripping
fuel injectors
fuel pump
fuel line/filter
header
cat
cat back
suspension
air intake
i figure all this stuff will cost around 2k$ and am gonna invest in all this over the course of a year or 2.
i'd like to keep some fuel economy and am wary about blowing up the car, so i am gonna go w some low level stuff. like i'll be getting the 110lph fuel pump, not the 255lph, 30lbs infectors, the fuel line i am replacing bc i feel that my current line is a bit defective as it has a slight leak due to the fact that it is the stock slide on and not a screw on version.
the headers are a must, as is the cat--mine is on its last leg--the cat back system is to finish the package. i think this is gonna be one of the first thing i work on since i need my car to commute and to commute i need to pass emmissions.
the suspension i NEED to upgrade/replace bc the car feels more like a boat in rough waters than a "fine american made automobile."
i am getting the injectors, headers from forced4.com, the suspension from steeda.com--i am leaning toward the 3 level replacement kit, although i am gonna contact the ford dealer about which parts i NEED to replace and more than likely save money. the cat and cat back system i am still shopping around for. the weather stripping is a part of regular maintenance and is also from steeda bc they have the best price.
so far as the air intake goes i have yet to find one that i like. i am looking for a cold air but my car does not have a mass air meter and i do not wanna put money in on adding one. actually i am thinking of building my own using a K&N filter and some tubing to the front of the car to get the full on air intake of freeway traffic. if any one has built their own intake i would appreciate some tips.
also here is the order i am gonna replace the stuff in, first, the weather stripping and air intake; second, the exhaust ; third, injectors; fourth, the fuel line; fifth, the fuel pump, and at the end the most expensive part is the suspension. if you guys have feedback on the order just reply and tell me what would be better and why.
i have also looked into getting a 5.0 engine and from the local retailers and online it would cost much more to get the engine plus the parts i need to replace in order to install it and the repairs the car needs anyway so that idea is out the window.
Nasorean
01-15-2005, 05:26 PM
also here is the full list of parts places that i have found so far
from the forum--2.3 specific
http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/
http://www.forced4.com/
http://www.merkurdesktop.com/desktop.php
http://modernperformanceinc.com/
http://www.motion-dynamics.net/
from looking around--5.0 n other parts
mustangsunlimited.com
ageclassic.com
mustangspecs.com
laurelmountainmustang.com
gtrhipo.com
johnsmustang.com
brothersperformance.com
steeda.com
from the forum--2.3 specific
http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/
http://www.forced4.com/
http://www.merkurdesktop.com/desktop.php
http://modernperformanceinc.com/
http://www.motion-dynamics.net/
from looking around--5.0 n other parts
mustangsunlimited.com
ageclassic.com
mustangspecs.com
laurelmountainmustang.com
gtrhipo.com
johnsmustang.com
brothersperformance.com
steeda.com
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