New car...need opinions
doug294
12-30-2004, 11:07 PM
My mom is going to buy me a new car cause my civic has been down and she wants me to have a dependable car with a warranty on it. We went and looked at several cars and I really only saw a few I liked.
I like the new Chevy Cobalt Coupes (about 15k). The SS models are nice, but wouldn't pay the extra 7 grand just for a spoiler, ground effects, and super charger. Can get a good aftermarket one if I wanted to do that.
I also like the Scion Xb's. They just have a cool clean look to me. And at about 14k they are pretty cool.
The VW GTI was a deff choice till I saw the 30k price tag.
What are you guys take on this? Also does anyone know the release date on the Cobalts cause I can't find any here.
P.S. I'm not looking for a performance car I want something to drive daily and on trips and stuff. I will be keeping the 91 Civic and installing a boosted high compression Y8 for performance.
I like the new Chevy Cobalt Coupes (about 15k). The SS models are nice, but wouldn't pay the extra 7 grand just for a spoiler, ground effects, and super charger. Can get a good aftermarket one if I wanted to do that.
I also like the Scion Xb's. They just have a cool clean look to me. And at about 14k they are pretty cool.
The VW GTI was a deff choice till I saw the 30k price tag.
What are you guys take on this? Also does anyone know the release date on the Cobalts cause I can't find any here.
P.S. I'm not looking for a performance car I want something to drive daily and on trips and stuff. I will be keeping the 91 Civic and installing a boosted high compression Y8 for performance.
TheSilentChamber
12-30-2004, 11:14 PM
I like the scion myself, wanting to get one soon but these other good deals keep poping up. I believe the cobalts are allready out, maby in limited supply though. There is one at a dealership here.
]{iwi
12-30-2004, 11:17 PM
scion gets my vote
icE_x
12-30-2004, 11:25 PM
i'm not too fond of chevy, nothing against em i jus never liked chevys (especially the ugly cavaliers, yuck!)
scion gets my vote ^_^ i'd rather get the xA or the tC though. Why not just get another honda, like one of those new Si models? :P
scion gets my vote ^_^ i'd rather get the xA or the tC though. Why not just get another honda, like one of those new Si models? :P
2CrX
12-30-2004, 11:33 PM
anything but the scion
doug294
12-30-2004, 11:39 PM
I don't like the new hondas. The new Civic's are just fugly to me. The Cobalt is what I wish the new civics looked more like. I just know I am staying away from all Ford products, had nothing but bad luck with them.
I don't think the Cobalts are out I can't find any here.
I don't think the Cobalts are out I can't find any here.
2CrX
12-30-2004, 11:47 PM
The new civics are deff fugly
doug294
12-30-2004, 11:48 PM
Remember this car will be my daily driver too so I am looking for good gas mileage. The Scion Xb gets 30mpg city and 34 highway :thumbsup:
2CrX
12-30-2004, 11:58 PM
But its ugly as hell. damn cinderblock on wheels
doug294
12-31-2004, 12:10 AM
Cleanest cinderblock I have seen
CivicSpoon
12-31-2004, 12:27 AM
Scion without a doubt, it's a division of Toyota so you can't go wrong.
TheSilentChamber
12-31-2004, 12:33 AM
I want xb with a 2jz, twin turbo cinder block.
Jetts
12-31-2004, 12:35 AM
get the scion tc way nicer then the xb
doug294
12-31-2004, 06:23 AM
Na the Xb looks better than the tc in my opinion. Plus the Xb actually gets better gas milage.
doug294
12-31-2004, 08:03 AM
Update: I was informed we have family members that work for GM so we might be able to get the employee discount if we buy a GM product. So that would lower the price even more on the Cobalt.
turtlecrxsi
12-31-2004, 10:08 AM
Isn't Saturn a GM product. I'm sure you can find a nice Saturn LS for cheap that would get decent gas mileage. I like the Cobalt too.
doug294
12-31-2004, 10:45 AM
I'm not a big fan or Saturns. They just don't look good to me.
icE_x
12-31-2004, 10:47 AM
yeh saturns are fugly! the new civics are ok, not the best lookin - the 4g was the best generation for civics :)
turtlecrxsi
12-31-2004, 11:12 AM
I think the new civics are decent looking. I wouldn't mind putting a nice B series in a totally stock in appearance new civic (not sure if motor mounts are same if they went to K style or not...).
Saturns are decent cars for daily driving and I think the ones prior to the new bubbly Ion style (VW passat or Nissan Altima/Maxima rip off!) are ok... IMO.
Saturns are decent cars for daily driving and I think the ones prior to the new bubbly Ion style (VW passat or Nissan Altima/Maxima rip off!) are ok... IMO.
Onimacus
12-31-2004, 11:33 AM
My parents just bought me a little saturn. And my dads saturn, and my girlfriends saturns have never had any problems, and they all get around 30-35mpg. My dad and girlfriend hacvthe 2.2DOHC 4cyl and I have a 1.9 DOHC 4 cyl. All get incredible gas mileage. And they aren't your generic mass built GM product like the cavalier. Saturn doesn't mas sproduce their cars, which in my opinion makes them a little better than your Poniac or GMC or Chevy.
The Xb is crap... its an Echo with a different body... but if you like the Echo then enjoy. But I got my saturn for 4k and It can beat a new EX with 98k miles on it so... whatever you choose good luck!
The Xb is crap... its an Echo with a different body... but if you like the Echo then enjoy. But I got my saturn for 4k and It can beat a new EX with 98k miles on it so... whatever you choose good luck!
icE_x
12-31-2004, 11:42 AM
a new EX with 98k miles isnt exactly new, lol
but i do agree, the new civics only have 127 hp stock so they aren't really made to race or anything - econoboxes
but i do agree, the new civics only have 127 hp stock so they aren't really made to race or anything - econoboxes
91civichatch2571
12-31-2004, 12:27 PM
to be honest, i kind of like the new tc's. 160hp 163 ft/lb, but a little heavy at 2,970 lb. Its still probably decently quick, but ive never driven one. I think they do look pretty good though too.... http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0408tur_scion/#
icE_x
12-31-2004, 12:40 PM
the reviews on em are sweet, but the factory options for them are ridiculously overpriced. Sure you can buy everything from Scion, instead of getting aftermarket, and pay about 3 times as much! Sport Compact Car, i have an issue and they reviewed the tC, it's nice, but some have the rattling roof problem, cuz it's all glass. I'd wait until the next generation comes out to buy a scion, then they'll work out the bugs.
doug294
12-31-2004, 01:38 PM
Before I would buy the tc I would just buy a new civic. They look better than the tc. To me the tc looks like a tame version of the Tiburon
doug294
12-31-2004, 01:42 PM
I found a 2000 GMC Sierra with 55k for 6k, but my mom says I have to get something new with warranty
Onimacus
12-31-2004, 02:30 PM
a new EX with 98k miles isnt exactly new, lol
but i do agree, the new civics only have 127 hp stock so they aren't really made to race or anything - econoboxes
my saturn has 98k miles. i dunno how many miles the ex had.
but i do agree, the new civics only have 127 hp stock so they aren't really made to race or anything - econoboxes
my saturn has 98k miles. i dunno how many miles the ex had.
90civicracer
12-31-2004, 03:08 PM
Used 2004 Dodge SRT-4 with a warranty left still...2.4 liter, turbocharged, LSD, stock. Brand new around 21K, used mid-high teens.
amy@af
12-31-2004, 03:30 PM
new cars are junk. if i were going to buy something newer i would look into a certified pre-owned honda/acura. you can't beat the quality of a low miles honda engine if you want to talk about reliability
before you buy anything be sure to check the recalls
before you buy anything be sure to check the recalls
doug294
12-31-2004, 03:33 PM
Remember this is my daily driver so I am not looking for something turbo or supercharged. I wan't something I can drive daily/on trips and be reliable and great on gas.
Also lets talk about insurance. I am only 20 yrs old so I don't need anything that will rape me with insurance cost. I am really leaning toward the 2005 Scion Xb blue pearl, 5sp, 1.5L 105 hp. 30mpg city and 34 mpg highway.
Sounds like it would be an overall good car. Yet the Cobalt 145 hp 5sp is sounding good. Has a 2.2L 4cyl in it which could be good down the line. After warranty runs out might be great for turbo.
Also lets talk about insurance. I am only 20 yrs old so I don't need anything that will rape me with insurance cost. I am really leaning toward the 2005 Scion Xb blue pearl, 5sp, 1.5L 105 hp. 30mpg city and 34 mpg highway.
Sounds like it would be an overall good car. Yet the Cobalt 145 hp 5sp is sounding good. Has a 2.2L 4cyl in it which could be good down the line. After warranty runs out might be great for turbo.
Jetts
12-31-2004, 04:48 PM
i dont know both of those cars to me are ugly
but whatever your car
but whatever your car
doug294
12-31-2004, 05:10 PM
To me that truck in your signature is ugly but thats just me :thumbsup:
bambam89lx
12-31-2004, 05:16 PM
I would get a new RSX type-S....mmmmm or a used ITR.
90civicracer
12-31-2004, 07:42 PM
If a Cobalt SS is too much then I have a feeling that an '05 RSX-S is too much, lol.
Jetts
12-31-2004, 08:06 PM
a cobolt is just a cavy with a diff. name
90civicracer
12-31-2004, 08:08 PM
And an Isuzu is just another name for POS mini-truck :rofl: I'm just playing
Jetts
12-31-2004, 08:12 PM
And an Isuzu is just another name for POS mini-truck :rofl: I'm just playing
that hurt
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that hurt
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doug294
12-31-2004, 10:27 PM
The Cobalt SS isn't too much I just don't want a turbo or supercharged car right now. I want something dependable and good on gas.
doug294
01-02-2005, 12:07 AM
Cobalt specs: -2,189 cc 2.2 liters in-line 4 front engine with 86 mm bore, 94.6 mm stroke, 10:1 compression ratio, double overhead cam and four valves per cylinder L61
-Unleaded fuel 87
-Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 46 and EPA city (mpg): 30
-Multi-point injection fuel system
-13 gallon main unleaded fuel tank
-Power: 108 kW , 145 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 150 ft lb , 203 Nm @ 4,000 rpm
Scion specs: -1,496 cc 1.5 liters in-line 4 front engine with 75 mm bore, 84.7 mm stroke, 10.5:1 compression ratio, double overhead cam, variable valve timing/camshaft and four valves per cylinder 1NZ-FE
-Unleaded fuel 85
-Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 35 and EPA city (mpg): 31
-Multi-point injection fuel system
-11.9 gallon main unleaded fuel tank
-Power: 81 kW , 108 HP SAE @ 6,000 rpm; 105 ft lb , 142 Nm @ 4,200 rpm
-Unleaded fuel 87
-Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 46 and EPA city (mpg): 30
-Multi-point injection fuel system
-13 gallon main unleaded fuel tank
-Power: 108 kW , 145 HP SAE @ 5,600 rpm; 150 ft lb , 203 Nm @ 4,000 rpm
Scion specs: -1,496 cc 1.5 liters in-line 4 front engine with 75 mm bore, 84.7 mm stroke, 10.5:1 compression ratio, double overhead cam, variable valve timing/camshaft and four valves per cylinder 1NZ-FE
-Unleaded fuel 85
-Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 35 and EPA city (mpg): 31
-Multi-point injection fuel system
-11.9 gallon main unleaded fuel tank
-Power: 81 kW , 108 HP SAE @ 6,000 rpm; 105 ft lb , 142 Nm @ 4,200 rpm
doug294
01-02-2005, 12:15 AM
I'm kinda leaning toward the Cobalt right at this moment. It's got a little pep to it stock. After intake, exhaust system, and a header I think it could be fun to drive. There is very little aftermarket support for it right now, but thats because it just came out. It comes with a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty. So after the warranty runs out the aftermarket parts should be really large.
90civicracer
01-02-2005, 12:54 AM
Get the Cobalt Sedan over the coupe.
doug294
01-02-2005, 01:27 AM
OOOHHHHHH NO! I hate 4 door cars
soccerplaya
01-02-2005, 03:18 AM
I dont know about the other cars but putting a v8 in your civc would be awsome. Make sure its a chevy v8
doug294
01-02-2005, 09:26 AM
LOL na the Civic is getting a high compression soon to be turbo charged D16y8 put in it as we speak.
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