buncha questions
ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-20-2004, 07:44 PM
This is for my S500 pictured in my sig. If I wanted to add some underbody work, is there a place I can find premade parts? like side skirts, or underbody front and rear spoilers, or maybe lip spoiler for the trunk? I heard of making your own parts with clay and all but that looks too complicated, from the pictures of what you need. And whats styrene? can you make spoilers out of that? I know i need epoxy glue and etc, and paint and all. But whats epoxy putty too? answers would be greatly appreciated. =)
mike@af
12-20-2004, 08:10 PM
You will need to make the kit. It involves styrene, a little bit of putty, and a good eye.
Styrene is plastic, it comes in a variety of styles.
Epoxy putty is a type of putty for large surfaces. Use styrene to build the basic shape, and very little putty. Look in the car modeling section, and use the search for ideas.
Styrene is plastic, it comes in a variety of styles.
Epoxy putty is a type of putty for large surfaces. Use styrene to build the basic shape, and very little putty. Look in the car modeling section, and use the search for ideas.
G35XAndTrailBlazer
12-20-2004, 08:44 PM
Yeah, i saw kits with all that stuff. I dont think you can buy it sepatley.
ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-21-2004, 12:15 AM
Ok. I have read the tutorials and all, so this is my verdict, and correction would be appreciated if I am wrong, but first I'll show you what I plan on doing.
I plan on mimicking every underbody spoiler mold found on the S55, and putting it on the S500. Basically im transforming my S500 into an S55, from back to side, to front moldings and underbody work.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/Picture085.jpghttp://autosupermart.com/newsphotos/mercedesbenz/amgrear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/Picture088.jpghttp://www.mercedes-benz.co.za/PC/Classes/S55AMG/images/top_S55AMG_suspen.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/Picture089.jpghttp://service.escapenet.ch/publisher/pictures/12/merc-s55amg-front.jpg
So I buy styrene, expoxy putty, and epoxy glue. On top of that, plastic spray paint and polish.
So I remove the fender from the car, cut pieces of styrene too mmy liking and size preference after epoxy gluing them onto the fender, then use a dremmel tool to smoothen them out, and maybe sand paper. Then use the epoxy putty to smoothen where the styrene borders the actual part, then more smooting, then paint and stuff..........something like that?
Like this, then smoothen it out?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/502/39429rsr04.jpg
I plan on mimicking every underbody spoiler mold found on the S55, and putting it on the S500. Basically im transforming my S500 into an S55, from back to side, to front moldings and underbody work.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/Picture085.jpghttp://autosupermart.com/newsphotos/mercedesbenz/amgrear.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/Picture088.jpghttp://www.mercedes-benz.co.za/PC/Classes/S55AMG/images/top_S55AMG_suspen.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v320/chinster20/Picture089.jpghttp://service.escapenet.ch/publisher/pictures/12/merc-s55amg-front.jpg
So I buy styrene, expoxy putty, and epoxy glue. On top of that, plastic spray paint and polish.
So I remove the fender from the car, cut pieces of styrene too mmy liking and size preference after epoxy gluing them onto the fender, then use a dremmel tool to smoothen them out, and maybe sand paper. Then use the epoxy putty to smoothen where the styrene borders the actual part, then more smooting, then paint and stuff..........something like that?
Like this, then smoothen it out?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/502/39429rsr04.jpg
mike@af
12-21-2004, 08:13 AM
Dont forget to buy plastic cement to "weld" the styrene pieces to other styrene pieces. Not exactly like the pic. I would have gotten some .020-.030 Sheet, cut out a strip, wrapped it on the inside of the wheel well, and then putty on top. Also, if its done correctly, you wont ever need to use a dremel. Just an X-Acto, and a bunch of sand paper.
Heres a thread in Car Modeling. Chris was building a Do-Luck Kit for an R34. He uses mostly styrene, and going through every page it turns into a good tutorial.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=212198&highlight=Do-Luck
Heres a thread in Car Modeling. Chris was building a Do-Luck Kit for an R34. He uses mostly styrene, and going through every page it turns into a good tutorial.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=212198&highlight=Do-Luck
Slim9107
12-21-2004, 10:47 AM
man, where did u get ur s500? i love the s series Mercedes
Slim9107
12-21-2004, 11:29 AM
maistos new playerz line have an s55 amg so im sure u could get the body kit from there, and mold it to ur S-500 and than just paint it,
ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-21-2004, 12:32 PM
OK. Thanks for your help Mike. I really appreciate it. Im still having trouble deciding whether I have enough time to mold the parts myself or just do a swapping (wouldn't that be considered the noob way? lol) like Slim said. I only have until Jan 3 which is when I go back to school. PLus, trying to make the spoilers look exact is going to be pretty damn hard for me because I have a really bad eye, or meaning I suck at making things exact, because I know when I made some wood things in one of my Tech classes nothing was straight and nothing was teh right size. I'm afraid I might screw it all up because tthere are alot of different curves to the spoilers, especially the rear and the front.
Customdubs
12-21-2004, 03:27 PM
where can i get this styrene stuff and how do i buy it and how does it come and how much do i need for like a hole doby kit... and i see thse guys with premade front body kit bumpers where can i get them and where do you guys get them.. thanx for the help
mike
mike
mike@af
12-21-2004, 05:24 PM
where can i get this styrene stuff and how do i buy it and how does it come and how much do i need for like a hole doby kit... and i see thse guys with premade front body kit bumpers where can i get them and where do you guys get them.. thanx for the help
mike
Holy Shit, can you use any punctuation?
Styrene you buy at a hobby shop.
You buy it with money.
It comes in packs. There's sheets, strips, tubes, etc.
What the hell's a doby kit? You need a sheet or two to build a kit.
The premade bumpers come on other cars, or are ordered. Use the search function. Most people make kits for diecasts because there are so few "premade" kits. Plus, its more appreciating knowing you made the kit and didnt just buy it.
And havent I sent you a warning about your posting style before? You might want to heed that warning.
mike
Holy Shit, can you use any punctuation?
Styrene you buy at a hobby shop.
You buy it with money.
It comes in packs. There's sheets, strips, tubes, etc.
What the hell's a doby kit? You need a sheet or two to build a kit.
The premade bumpers come on other cars, or are ordered. Use the search function. Most people make kits for diecasts because there are so few "premade" kits. Plus, its more appreciating knowing you made the kit and didnt just buy it.
And havent I sent you a warning about your posting style before? You might want to heed that warning.
Customdubs
12-21-2004, 07:34 PM
Im am very sorry for the way I have been posting messages. I was wondering, what exact sites do I search to find, for example a front bumper for a 1/18 car. Like the front bumper of a body kit. I am starting a body kit for a 1/18 lexus sc 430 and i need a front bumper, any suggestions for me, if not buying one, then how could i make a pretty detailed front bumper. Once again sorry to upset you.
Mike Scott
Mike Scott
mike@af
12-21-2004, 09:03 PM
I accept your apology Mike. Hate to get on people like that, but sometimes I have to do what I have to do.
There are very few aftermarket bumpers. I suggest taking the stock one, cutting it up, and using styrene. I posted a link earlier in this thread, its a build of Do-Luck Skyline. Chris posts pictures through out and it gives a good idea of how to build a body kit.
There are very few aftermarket bumpers. I suggest taking the stock one, cutting it up, and using styrene. I posted a link earlier in this thread, its a build of Do-Luck Skyline. Chris posts pictures through out and it gives a good idea of how to build a body kit.
Customdubs
12-21-2004, 09:18 PM
Thank You. I will keep you up to date on how my progress is going. Happy holidays to everyone. I have a mustang with a sweet front bumper I may jsut use that or just make my own.
Mike Scott
Mike Scott
ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-21-2004, 09:29 PM
another question, lol sorry for all them. Ever hear of Zymol all natural cleaner wax? It's used on real cars and is a water based all natural polisher and waxer, and is guaranteed to get the swirl marks and stuff off the paint and get a superior mirror shine on the paint. But it said do not use on metalized plastics and flat paint. are the paints used on diecast cars any of those? is this was ok to use on diecast if its meant for real autos?
G35XAndTrailBlazer
12-21-2004, 09:33 PM
Hey TRHK, i saw an S55 by some company. I dont know where. But it was just like the Maisto Mercedes only in AMG. You could peel off the bumpers and stick them on yur S500. It was an inexpensive car, so it wouldent set you back much.
mike@af
12-21-2004, 09:50 PM
TRHK, the wax sounds fine. But probably will do very little.
ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-21-2004, 09:55 PM
ok. Thanks a bunch mike, I really appreciate it.
ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-23-2004, 10:56 PM
I'm sorry, one more question. If I were to do a lip spoiler on the trunk, should I use styrene or Epoxy putty, or modeling clay? because I want to mold it perfectly to the trunk without having to damage the trunk in any way, and then take the mold, dry it (if it were clay or something) then just paint it then epoxy it to the trunk.
mike@af
12-24-2004, 12:47 PM
Its very difficult to mold something that is detachable and look good. I say use styrene, and go ahead and use epoxy putty to mold it to the decklid.
Dont ever use clay...ever.
Dont ever use clay...ever.
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