lightning wheels, f150, fitment issues.

I have two threads going on this problem. I really need someone with some ford-specific knowledge on this. Here are my two threads:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=334148

http://fordtruckworld.tenmagazines.com/forums/topic.ten?id=339941L

Any help is appreciated.

You need to get the correct lug nuts.

Go down to your local auto parts store and look at the various types of lug nuts and select the proper size and configuration.

Thanks for the reply, but this isn't the issue. I have both the 12 mm lug nuts that fit the current lugs as well as the proper 14mm lug nuts that came with the wheels. The other problem is that the thread pitch on everything that the parts store has is 1.5. The pitch on the ford lugs is 1.75.

I guess what I'm saying is, I know my post was long and had a lot to remember, but I have the proper lug nuts. My issue is with the excessive play that comes from the flat lug nuts. With wheels and lugs I expect this:

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and what I'm getting is this:

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The only thing preventing movement is the friction of the nut on the wheel.

If you have the time, go back over those posts and see if you understand what I mean

Thanks for the reply :)

OK, let me say this again!

Go down to the local autoparts store and LOOK at the the selection of lug nuts.

In addition to the thread pitch and the diameter, there are differences in where the lugnut seats against the wheel. Determione from that what kind you have (it's obvious you don't have the conical seat, probably not the ball seat, but it is a good question whether you have the flat seat or the type the the nut has a shank that slides into the hole and the nut clamps it down - sorry, but I don't know the names of these.)

Hope this helps.

Thank you, but I've been to the local parts store several times and I have the McGard lug nut catalog. The problem is that it is not a ball seat, conical seat, nor is it a mag style (the kind with the shank you talked about)

The hole in the wheel is simply a hole. No cone, no radius, no nothing. The face of the wheel just has a flat surface, as does the face of the nut. The McGard catalog lists lug nuts in conical style and gives the footnote of, "for aftermarket wheels only."

Every parts counter says that I have to go to Ford (which we've done several times) but they don't know anything except what parts are listed for what trucks. If I get a chance, I'll email some pictures for you cause I must not be describing the problem correctly or you wouldn't be suggesting going to the parts store. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate your help, but I just need to find a better way to describe it.

Try going to Pickuptruck.com, F-150world and someother truck sites. They should give you good advice. Not to mention they are specialized truck sites they will probably have more experience. Truck rims are made a LITTLE differently then a car wheels because of the weight issues.

Then I think what you have is a flat seat, which is what Ford uses nowadays. So a stock lugnut ought to work. You may need to call McGard and talk to someone as this may be new to them.