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SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 03:06 PM
Does RazorGTR or whatever his name is work for MotoRex?
Interesting fact, after my father had a chat with customs, talking to the company that does my families shipping from China (China is next to Japan for those that are mistaken) to the US, looking into parts, and talking to older grey market importers. IT COSTS NO WHERE NEAR $95,000 TO GET AN R34 GTR.

MotoRex only got the Skyline gig b/c they were the first to ask.

nismo_power
12-18-2004, 03:13 PM
what are you talking about. motorex didnt do any of the testing for the cars, they didnt do ANYTHING. they BOUGHT all the information, so they werent the first to ask they were just the first to follow through. and yea it costs damn close to 95 grand. you are missing one big chunk of the pie when after you factor in shipping, parts, and all that other crap.

1.) the origional price of the car in japan
2.) labor

did you know that those r34's cost around 50-60 grand.....USED? so lets say....60 grand. shipping will be another 1100 (depending on who you go to), that puts us at 61,100, and assuming that legalization costs 25 grand (includes labor).....that puts you at 86,100. then you got customs fees, registration, issuing of a new title, storage costs because we all know motorex might not pick the car up the day it comes in, and a bunch of other fees and bonds, and your at clost to or at 95k.




p.s. raz lives in new zealand.

SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 03:21 PM
$60,000, how is this possible. They were $35,000 new.

SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 03:22 PM
I also factored in bonds, customs, labor, etc the first time around

nismo_power
12-18-2004, 03:23 PM
$60,000, how is this possible. They were $35,000 new.



35k new....HAHAHAHAHAHA thats hilarious!!! son, when the r34's first came out they were $75k USD brand new.

SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 03:40 PM
convert 4,000,000 yen to US dollars

SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 03:42 PM
convert 4 million yen to US dollars

AvAlAnChE1090
12-18-2004, 04:39 PM
38,358.2 USD for 4 million YEN

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-18-2004, 06:45 PM
Now, in mint, they may be 35, but new? You gotta be joking. 75-90 k USD. Period.

Ps, don't double post. Please.

my3rdskyline
12-18-2004, 06:54 PM
70 thousand USD new
http://db.datanext.co.jp/4DCGI/WEB_Car_View?ST=M&CarCode=1800-120041020-002


and my friend is selling his for 40 grand....
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/okinawa/070304/
it's the blue R34 on that page. The one I'm sitting in.

SkylineMan32
12-18-2004, 08:38 PM
Alright the consenus is that a used R34 is $40,000 ok so where does the extra $55,000 come in? In that labor, shipping, bond, customs, parts. Even so that doesn't come out to $55,000. There profit margin at MotoRex is close to $20,000. FYI nismo_power MotoRex can't buy brand new R34 b/c they haven't made them for close to 2 years now. If MotoRex is paying $60,000 US for there cars they are getting ripped off, as shown by my3rdskyline and 5 minutes of internet research an R34 can be easily obtain for $40,000 or below. Plus go the MotoRex.com all their cars look like total crap. The imort law is no foreign soil, their cars are filthy. I'll give you guys the original price, but this is 2004, and soon 2005, and MotoRex still wants $95,000. Get your hand out of your pants, read my facts, check out CURRENT Skyline prices, and you'll see. Also don't call me son, I know you get off being an ass to kids, but now is not the time. I noticed you didn't put your age in your profile. Thats weird... Do you work for RB Motoring? if so then that shows why you are so diligent in defending Motorex

About the double posting sorry, It didn't appear at first so I hit post again, and two came up.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
12-18-2004, 08:55 PM
Don't forget Motorex has to convert those Skyline to US specs. Installing saftey equipment and making sure the car passes US emission standards. Thats not a cheap project. Also, Motorex is the only company in the world that can convert a Skyline so its street legal. So they can charge anything they want. Supply and demand.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-18-2004, 09:07 PM
70 thousand USD new
http://db.datanext.co.jp/4DCGI/WEB_Car_View?ST=M&CarCode=1800-120041020-002


and my friend is selling his for 40 grand....
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/okinawa/070304/
it's the blue R34 on that page. The one I'm sitting in.

Lol, sweet car, but who's that ogre sitting in the driver's seat :smokin:

LOl, J/k...I think...:evillol:

Your friend really shouldn't smell, umm, sell it, because that is a bautiful ride:nono:. He doesn't need to charge, I work for Free.:lol:

And in the link above it, how come it is a pic of a modded car:sly:? It is probably not brand new, and DEFINETLY not stock:iceslolan But it's still sweet. I want one now. Damn you:grinno:

:2cents:

Zaphod Beeblebrox
12-18-2004, 09:28 PM
Well HighOctaneNOSUser, when you reach the age of 17 or 18 join the military, Navy or Marines, and ask for orders to Japan. Bam! You'll have the Skyline of dreams before you know it.

ZedEx
12-18-2004, 11:43 PM
... Jesus Christ...

Razor GTR (Vince) lives in New Zeland...

The reason Vince promotes RB Motoring and MotoRex so much, is because they are the only way to get street legal Skylines into the states. There are other cheap ways to get around importation fees, laws, etc etc... But MotoRex and RB Motoring are the only legit ways.

And nismo_power is correct... MotoRex did none of the testing themselves, it was an independent company... I think by the name of JK Motors (correct if I am wrong please)

... If you want to pick a bone with someone, pick one with tyndago, his name is Sean Morris, and he is a private affiliate in close relation with RB Motoring. Anything you say about Skylines to this man, he will have the answer I am sure.

And also... What are you talking about? No RI (Registered Importer) can legalize any Post-1996 JDM Vehicles to US Specification. Due to OBDII (On-Board Diagnostics level II) which is required in all USDM Vehicles Post-1996. And seeming as all Skylines that are popular for importation are OBDI... That leaves the Post-1996 Skylines out of luck, now doesnt it?

Granted, a few Post-1996 Skylines made it out of legalization before EPA caught on... From then on they had to do it right, but the customers were allowed to keep their cars.

Mad Max, Craig Liberman's Black Bird, RB Motorings 'Bert', and a few others got lucky.

So dude let me ask you a question... Why did you start this thread to begin with? What are you trying to prove?

... Your last statement in your first post made me laugh dude.

... "Can we please import Skylines to the US and rip off middle to upper class white people with money... Can we can we can we please :D "

-Wes

my3rdskyline
12-19-2004, 12:04 AM
And in the link above it, how come it is a pic of a modded car:sly:? It is probably not brand new, and DEFINETLY not stock

yeah that's about as close are your going to get to brand new. 600kilometers
oh great, now you people know what I look like :-( ahhahahha
http://blacklinux.com/pages/public/okinawa/070304/photos/photo_38.html

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-19-2004, 01:07 AM
Well HighOctaneNOSUser, when you reach the age of 17 or 18 join the military, Navy or Marines, and ask for orders to Japan. Bam! You'll have the Skyline of dreams before you know it.

Nah mang, If I wait till I'm 18, I'da missed out on a 1995 R33 GTR, I'd only have to be 18. And no military! Yay! Life can be harder or easier in Canada, dpepends on how you look at it.

Zaphod Beeblebrox
12-19-2004, 04:32 AM
Nah mang, If I wait till I'm 18, I'da missed out on a 1995 R33 GTR, I'd only have to be 18. And no military! Yay! Life can be harder or easier in Canada, dpepends on how you look at it.

As Peter Griffin once said, "Canada sucks!" 'The More You Know'..::cue rainbow::

lol... just playing man. Canada's is home to some of the hottest chicks I've ever laid eyes on.

Better save that money now for the GTR!

SkylineUSA
12-19-2004, 05:24 AM
No more R32,R33, or R34s will ever come into the States again, legaly. So, its a mute point to bitch about the pricing, now isn't it.

HighOctaneNOSUser
12-19-2004, 12:57 PM
SkylineUSA, what do you mean? Isn't it just post-1996 cars, die to OBDII? Or does it apply to all cars?

carrrnuttt
12-19-2004, 01:56 PM
Anybody want to click the link on my sig? ;)

ZedEx
12-19-2004, 05:11 PM
He was one of the lucky ones Carrrnuttt...

And SkylineUSA... I know your quite knowledgable on legality when it comes to issues of this matter... And I think I know what your talking about now.

There is an issue about the older Skylines because they dont have airbags... But neither did 300ZedXs until 1991. So Im not sure why DOT is making a deal over it.

But what are the other reasons? Have MotoRex and RB Motoring taken a sabatical from legalizing? Last I remember, Sean said that RBM was currently legalizing an R32.

O this whole situation is so sketch... That is why I always say... "Just wait until 2014 guys... Then Godzilla can come overseas without getting shot at"

-Wes

nismo_power
12-19-2004, 08:25 PM
He was one of the lucky ones Carrrnuttt...

And SkylineUSA... I know your quite knowledgable on legality when it comes to issues of this matter... And I think I know what your talking about now.

There is an issue about the older Skylines because they dont have airbags... But neither did 300ZedXs until 1991. So Im not sure why DOT is making a deal over it.

But what are the other reasons? Have MotoRex and RB Motoring taken a sabatical from legalizing? Last I remember, Sean said that RBM was currently legalizing an R32.

O this whole situation is so sketch... That is why I always say... "Just wait until 2014 guys... Then Godzilla can come overseas without getting shot at"

-Wes


last i heard, DOT had frozen all importations of skylines, including r32's and the early model r33's. something about problems with airbags (lack of them, and deployment).

nitrous36
12-19-2004, 08:30 PM
Luckily OBDII did not go into effect until 96. Or else we would not have been able to have the R33 at all. I hope Motorex can work out the issue with DOT soon and get things moving again. And also do you know what they are having to do about it?

SkylineUSA
12-20-2004, 02:53 AM
Here is the thing, if they are able to legalize them again, they are going to jack the price up even more!

RB as far as I know, was never able to legalize any skylines. They always went through MotoRex.

carrrnuttt,

That R34 looks like its not US legal, whats the story?

nismo_power
12-20-2004, 04:15 AM
Luckily OBDII did not go into effect until 96. Or else we would not have been able to have the R33 at all. I hope Motorex can work out the issue with DOT soon and get things moving again. And also do you know what they are having to do about it?


yea, obd2 didnt go into effect until 96, but even the early models are frozen, right now you cant get a skyline unless its a GTR2000. ALL models are frozen right now. we cant get them. i thought youd understand that from the first time i posted that.




EDIT: ive been readin on FA, and sean is saying that for 30 grand cash hell tell you everything you need to know to legalize skylines. hahahahaha, :greddy2:

nitrous36
12-20-2004, 10:14 PM
yea, obd2 didnt go into effect until 96, but even the early models are frozen, right now you cant get a skyline unless its a GTR2000. ALL models are frozen right now. we cant get them. i thought youd understand that from the first time i posted that.




EDIT: ive been readin on FA, and sean is saying that for 30 grand cash hell tell you everything you need to know to legalize skylines. hahahahaha, :greddy2:

You misunderstood that. I knew that. Thats why I said I hope MotoRex can get things moving again. I was also pointing out that if OBDII went into effect in 95 we would not be able to get a R33 at all. Even before motorex started having this problem with Dot. Think before you be a smart ass.

nismo_power
12-21-2004, 03:43 AM
You misunderstood that. I knew that. Thats why I said I hope MotoRex can get things moving again. I was also pointing out that if OBDII went into effect in 95 we would not be able to get a R33 at all. Even before motorex started having this problem with Dot. Think before you be a smart ass.


haha we cant get r33 anymore. its been that way for weeks now. oh...wait we could get r33's 3 months ago...wtf...are you in a time space in your head?

ZedEx
12-21-2004, 08:56 PM
... Uh Oh... Guys chill out now, keep it civil.

-Wes

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