Which one??????

Looking for a new car, but cant decide which one to get, it is between a 92-96 honda prelude, or a 91-98 nissan 200sx se-r, i am planning to turbocharge and most likely supercharge the car, and am looking for the one with the most power without engine swap, i am leaning toward the prelude, but any suggestions??

turbocharge and supercharge? why both? you realize thats largely pointless, right?

Not all '92-'96 preludes are the same, some come with very crappy engines and some have fairly good ones. If you're going to boost, I would get a Prelude Si with the H23

i heard that turbocharging and supercharging would give it more power, but i guess i learn that that is wrong, also, i did some reasearch and the se-r does 140 stock and the si does 160 stock, but can any of you guess help figure out which one will end up with the most power once the turbo and everything is in?

i heard that turbocharging and supercharging would give it more power, but i guess i learn that that is wrong, also, i did some reasearch and the se-r does 140 stock and the si does 160 stock, but can any of you guess help figure out which one will end up with the most power once the turbo and everything is in?

whats the displacement of the motors? what kind of turbo? what kind of supercharger? How much boost will you be running? Will you be running an intercooler? Do you even have the money to do this? All these things factor in how much hp the car will make?

well some 200sx's came with a sr20de which means you can swap in the sr20det or just get some machine work done to the sr20de block and get the sr20de head and all the stuff that goes with turbocharging. you could probably end up with the most power out of this platform as opposed to the honda motor. also look at the vehicle weights, its not all about HP. A lighter car will handle better, accelerate better, and break better.

oh yeah and the sr20 was pretty much designed for turbocharging (but there are some internal differences between the sr20de and the sr20det but i dont know what they are)

www.sr20deforum.com

i dont know what displacement, probably a turbonetics turbo kit, yes, i will be running a intercooler, and how much would it be for a engine swap to a sr20det or just to machine a sr20de? i still have alot of time to think about it.

a turbocharger is a supercharger. Its just exhaust driven. They do the same thing as each other, force air into the engine. Centrifugal superchargers and turbochargers are more efficient than roots type chargers. This means less intake temperature rise. Turbochargers are believed to be even more efficient because they theoretically do not rob power from the crankshaft. Some exhaust restriction is created though. I would recomment swapping the SR20DET. This way the engine is already turbocharged so you don't have to worry about internals, fuel system(for a little while), idle control stuff, timing maps, fuel maps, ect. If you turbocharge the existing engine, you will run into problems with the fuel and timing maps. Good luck.

so get the 200sx, swap the engines,and slap a turbo in there, ok thx.

If you swap in the SR20DET, it already has a turbocharger.
SR=engine series
20=2.0l displacement
D=twin cam
E=electronic fuel injection
T=turbocharged.

wouldnt a after market turbo on a sr20de be faster than a a sr20det?

nope, SR20DE has cast internals = low boost

might be faster till you detonate a piston or put one through the head. also the sr20det has oil squirters for the bottoms of the pistons whereas the sr20de does not, that is the machining that would need to be done (also maybe some clearancing for beefier rods i dont know)

nice, how much do you think it would be to get the engine swap?

It would probably do okay for low boost. The KA24E and KA24DE have cast pistons and have held 16psi. That was with AEM EMS but a lot of guys run 12psi everyday on the stock bottom end. IF you can tune it well, it should hold 5-7psi no problem. Correct AFs and timing are the most important factors in whether or not your engine is going to last under boost. Judging from the way you sound, you should probably just get the engine swap.
http://www.jgycustoms.com/motors.htm

aight, but i might not even get the 200sx or the prelude, i am looking at some other cars right now.

well you should probably look into what kind of racing you are going to be doing, if any, and take that into consideration when deciding.

rear wheel drive will almost always be a better platform no matter what kind of racing you do. also with what you know about the sr2o0det now you could get a 240sx and put that in it.

yeah, i was just about to say to find a car that you would want for your type or racing. Those cars mentioned are both FWD, if you are interested in a nissan and the sr20det swap. Look into the s13 and s14 240sx's...great RWD cars!!

what about a 3000gt twin turbo?

they sound like they would be a better car than they actually are. the engine is not all that common (in fact i cant think of anything else that it comes in). There is not much aftermarket support for it. They are a very heavy cars in general. I wouldnt recommend it for someone like you who is just gettin into cars.

I'm not hating on it by any means these are just opinions on the car (recenty I have become leary of all DSM's (Diamond Star Motors=a collaboration between mitsubishi and dodge to make cars such as: laser/talon/eclipse, 3000gt/stealth, conquest/starion)).

i would wholeheartedly suggest going with the 240sx because of its price, configuration, aftermarket support, and wealth of knowledge that abounds on the internet about it.

oh and you will be able to get more power out the the single turbo I4 sr20det (and probably far cheaper) than V6TT in the 3KGT.

yeah, you'll have better times slips on auto-x or any racing with the 240 also because of size and weight, a TT v6 isnt the lightest thing around..lol

i dont want a 240sx, i want a 200sx, and arent they fwd cars? the only kind of racing i will be doing with the car is drag, i wont drift.

the USDM is FWD, but the other 200sx is RWD. The 200sx in america can be made pretty fast, small, light, go for the SR20det swap!!

nice, would it matter if i got a se-r, since i would be getting a engine swap anyways.also, which kind of sr20det engine would be the best, s13, s14, or s15?http://www.xatracing.com/xatracingparts.html?row2col1=nissanengine.html

whoa, wait a minute. i hope you dont think that rwd is only for drifting, drifting isnt racing. RWD will give you better times in autocross, road/track racing, and DRAG racing especially.

i am under the impression that the s13,14,and 15 are all pretty much the same engine as long as it is an sr20det. i think any difference would be in the factory tuning.(could be wrong as they may have different internals, but if your making serious power you would probably change those anyhow). probably all the same block and similar heads, same mounts and tranny bolt pattern.

RWD generally has a better weight distribution.

whoa, wait a minute. i hope you dont think that rwd is only for drifting, drifting isnt racing. RWD will give you better times in autocross, road/track racing, and DRAG racing especially.

i am under the impression that the s13,14,and 15 are all pretty much the same engine as long as it is an sr20det. i think any difference would be in the factory tuning.(could be wrong as they may have different internals, but if your making serious power you would probably change those anyhow). probably all the same block and similar heads, same mounts and tranny bolt pattern.

The s15 has better turbo, BB i think, and puts out 250hp. The s14 is just newer and should be the black top engine. I think it does come in the red top but im not sure. The black tops are newer and will have lower mileage (most of the time).

i dont think you can use the sr20det from the 240sx in the 200. The engine sits horizontal to the front of the 200sx because it is FWD, the 240sx engine sits parellel with the body of the car because it is RWD...Hope this helps....

yeah i didnt realize that the usdm and jdm 200sx se-r's were different configurations

The s15 has better turbo, BB i think, and puts out 250hp. The s14 is just newer and should be the black top engine. I think it does come in the red top but im not sure. The black tops are newer and will have lower mileage (most of the time).

i dont think you can use the sr20det from the 240sx in the 200. The engine sits horizontal to the front of the 200sx because it is FWD, the 240sx engine sits parellel with the body of the car because it is RWD...Hope this helps....

yea, i noticed that they were for the 240sx, so it might be a little tough to find a sr20det for a 200sx.

i'm not trying to tell you what to do but can I ask why you want front wheel drive so badly?

i dont want a fwd car, i want a rwd car.

S15 SR20s have T28 Ball Bearing turbos. Capable of more output than a standard T25. Not worth the money if you ask me. I posted a link up that lists the SR engines. I believe the bluebird engine fits in the 200sx FWD configuration. If you don't want a FWD car, then why are you asking questions about one? Get a RWD if thats what you want.

ok, the 200sx is FWD, if you want RWD then stop asking about 200sx cuz we dont have the RWD version in the states. You should be looking for an s13 or s14 nissan 240sx if you want RWD!!

i thought u guys said that the 200sx was rwd? oh well, i guess i have to look around some more.