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dude4u
12-15-2004, 12:43 PM
well i figured this would be the best place to look for an answer. Well i currently am the owner of a 91 Ls integra. But there is a problem and that's why i'm here. It starts up fine in the morning which is great but once i shut it off it sometimes has a problem starting again. Sometimes in the middle of my drive as well the car shuts off on me. Well with me checking the car over i found out that it needed a fuel filter on it. Once i changed the filter the car ran great but still had problems with shutting off in the middle of a drive. I figured it would be the fuel pump because it seemed to not get pressure and so i changed the fuel pump with an upgraded fuel pump. now that i've changed the pump it seems to have the same problems. I keep believing it has to do with the fuel injectors but sometimes i'm not quite sure. I do have a manual to the car and wouldn't work on it without one. I usualy do my own work on my car so i'm pretty familiar with it all. But I need just a little bit more help with it. Also i thought it would be the distributor with it not starting since i had a bad distributor on another teg i had but at least the car starts telling me it's not the distributor. I need some opinions and i would appreciate the feed back. If any questions arise i'll probably be able to answer them right away.

Rating
12-15-2004, 01:02 PM
Have u installed a new alternator recently, my friend had his replaced on his sentra the person who installed it didnt ground it correctly and what do ya know going down the street his car would just shutdown. Eventually it would crank and go, but once again the car would shutdown. He didnt know what the hell to do, so he braught it to me. I asked him what had been replaced, he said his alternator. I took a gander at it and well the ground was just dangling on a stud with a bolt on it just not tightened down.

In other words sorry for the story, but I always gotta tell one. Check your grounds, it could be as simple as that. Also you might wanna get your alternator checked out.

integralover
12-15-2004, 02:38 PM
sounds like a main relay

dude4u
12-15-2004, 04:07 PM
sounds like a main relay

i keep reading my manual on it and where is the main relay located on it?? Oh and just for the hell of it ur sn is my user name for ebay :)

dude4u
12-15-2004, 04:09 PM
Have u installed a new alternator recently, my friend had his replaced on his sentra the person who installed it didnt ground it correctly and what do ya know going down the street his car would just shutdown. Eventually it would crank and go, but once again the car would shutdown. He didnt know what the hell to do, so he braught it to me. I asked him what had been replaced, he said his alternator. I took a gander at it and well the ground was just dangling on a stud with a bolt on it just not tightened down.

In other words sorry for the story, but I always gotta tell one. Check your grounds, it could be as simple as that. Also you might wanna get your alternator checked out.

hey rating is there really the possibility that the alternator is causing this cause on the first integra i had which was a 91 I changed the alternator on it and this alternator on this one looks like the stock one. But i don't want to buy another one or get one out the junk yard unless i know it will fix my problem. Your story which actually i enjoy hearing about it sounds like it would fix my prob but i thought if the alternator was bad then the car wouldn't crank period. thanks for the responses

dude4u
12-15-2004, 04:49 PM
well my car cranked as i took 2 friends to the bank and well one friend said he heard the belts squealing so it gives me this idea that the belt on my alternator if that in fact is where it is making the noise might be the problem. correct me if i'm wrong but i believe in the morning the belt on the alternator is cold and so it shrinks and fits tight on the alternator and when it starts running it gets loose and so it slips possibly off the alternator well not slips off but it's not tight on the pulley and so that's why it doesn't want to crank after i've driven it for a while. is this a possibility??

whtteg
12-15-2004, 06:09 PM
Sounds like main relay as mentioned above or a bad/loose connection somewhere. I would check the connectors at the distributor, there are two connectors check them both for loose connections or corrosion. Same goes for any other connectors you can find under the hood.

casperGSR
12-15-2004, 07:19 PM
check your gorunds including the battery ground if it is loose at all any little movement in it will cause the car to stall out and prevent it from starting... not to contradict previous suggestions because they may be correct, but most of the problems I've seen with the main relays are always on start up in hot weather but not once the car is already running but I could be wrong... your alternator belt being loose could do it too because if it's loose and slipping it's not charging your battery well and therefore draining it causing the car to stall out and preventing it from starting.... the best way to see if it's fuel related as far as it being the relay when you get in the car turn the key to run without turning the car on and listen for the fuel pump coming on, you'll usually hear it for the first two or three seconds if you don't then it very well maybe the relay... hope this helps a little

casperGSR
12-15-2004, 07:24 PM
sorry forgot to add that when you listen for the fuel pump you should also be able to hear the main relay click from inside the car to the left underside of the driver's side dash

integralover
12-15-2004, 11:37 PM
agree with casper. but even my main relay when it went was still clicking. damn things are hard to diagnose

dude4u
12-16-2004, 08:50 AM
sorry forgot to add that when you listen for the fuel pump you should also be able to hear the main relay click from inside the car to the left underside of the driver's side dash


well thanks for all the info but there is one more thing that might help ya'll out. Right and i mean right before it stalls in the middle of the drive some times on the left side of my car or well left side of the steering wheel i hear like a click noise and then the car shuts off. usually i'll hear the click noise and i'll know it's turning off. I guess this might help. but also while driving i think the squeeling might be my bushing and shocks and everything needing to be replaced. but i'll be up under it checking to see what could possibly the problem thanks again guys

dude4u
12-16-2004, 08:53 AM
also forgot to add. with it possibly being the main relay where is it located and what does it look like cause i haven't been that detailed into my car just yet. I'm on my way outside to check the alternator now and now that i think about it i believe at my nearest auto parts store they have an alternator tester there or something along the lines of it. i might just go and check that out. hopefully if that's the problem it will read it.

dude4u
12-18-2004, 12:03 AM
well good news and bad all in the same. today i took the alternator off to have it checked and good news is the alternator is just great working perfectly that's good news but not for my car cause now i still have no clue whats going on. i asked the dude in the advance place and he said i should check my battery or my main relay. well seeing how that went my boy happened to of came to my girls house to see her brother and he just happenly works for the honda dealership. well this means great news cause can u say diagnostic test free!!! yippy for free and it might just tell me what the hell is going on. sadly i have to put my alternator on in the morning and hope it cranks so i can get there which is like 30 minutes away of course.

casperGSR
12-19-2004, 10:23 AM
if your alternator is good I would definately check your battery because if it's shot then no matter how good the alternator is it won't recharge like it's supposed to... as far as your main relay it should be located underneath the driver side dash of your car, all the way to the left of the dash pretty much where your left leg is when you sit in the car... the best thing to do is get a haynes manual or equivalent and it'll show you exactly what it looks like... also before you go spending money for a new relay if you're any good with a soldering gun you can repair it and save yourself some cash... when you get the main relay out and take the top off you'll basically see a bunch of soldered connections, if you look very closely you can usually see a crack in one of the soldered connections, what happens is when the relay gets hot the crack will expand therefore preventing a good connection so if you take a soldering gun you can resolder it and get rid of the crack... I've done a handful of them and so far haven't had any problem with repairing them as opposed to replacing it... to be safe you should just resolder all of the connections in case there is more then just crack in the soldering... worse case scenario if the soldering doesn't fix it (assuming it is the main relay) then you go out and buy a new relay, hope this helps ya.

dude4u
12-19-2004, 11:43 AM
well that helps out greatly and i have an update. well i got my alternator put back on yesterday and happened to get the car started well i took it to the honda dealership and let them do a free check on it and i told the dude that many people mentioned the main relay and he was like yea it could be that or it could be the ignition timing in the distributor. so i was like ok well my friend which is the projectintegra dude well i own his integra so i took his whole distributor off and his wires to check it out. well success the car started up greatly. turned it off and on and worked great did everything great all day. UNTIL the nighttime came just like when i replaced the fuel pump. it cut out on me. in the middle of a drive. which really pissed my girl and her bro off but not me. i told them during the whole time that i didn't believe the car was fixed and i had a feeling it wasn't. sadly it didn't prove me right till the end of the day but proved me right non the less. so i'm gonna just have to take the main relay outta his and put it into mine. if that fixes it i'll update you all. thanks again

integralover
12-21-2004, 10:45 PM
yea the main relay is located on the left side of the steering wheel. it does sound to me like it is the main relay. that fixed all of my probs.

project91integra
12-22-2004, 10:31 AM
yep i changed the main relay and ever since then the car hasn't shut off it's fixed. finally. thanks everyone for the help

sobersgary
12-27-2004, 10:14 AM
I had the same prob with my 91 gs, it is the main fuel relay for sure, no doubt, take off the panel under the driver side, then take off the metal plate that is there, and then look for a brown relay that says mitsuba 12v adn some number on it and unplug it and replace it, the dealership sells it for 75 or so dollars after i changed mine i had no problems.

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