radiator caps

Do radiator caps (Mugen or Spoon) have got any drawbacks (especially in winter)? Thanx!


(Please move it to the `Let´s get technical!´ forum if it doesn´t belong in here!)

I've heard the mugen ones are good. I havent heard anything bad as in winter wise whether they freeze or not tho.

Originally posted by 90CRXZCSi
I havent heard anything bad as in winter wise whether they freeze or not tho. Thanx, 90CRXZCSi! Anybody else who knows anything about that?

Why?

I mean really why?
so you can have a radiator cap with Mugen printed on it? :confused:

Originally posted by Moppie
Why?

I mean really why?
so you can have a radiator cap with Mugen printed on it? :confused: At first: Why not?? :confused:

Okay, I´ll explain it to you. At first I wanted to buy an oil-filler cap from a brand like DC-Sports, Mugen, Spoon,....The problem with that is that there is no european brand which is offering nice products for Hondas (Except maybe Momo but I don´t like their design either!) so that I have to choose between the imported products from several brands (like DC-Sports, Mugen, Spoon,...=>imported=>expensive). But the price of the DC oil-filler cap isn´t much lower than the one from Mugen for example. And then I saw that these radiator caps (Spoon or Mugen) are even cheaper than the oil-filler caps of the same brands and that they have got about the same price than the DC oil-filler caps over here! And we don´t have got another brand who´s offering radiator caps over here. So what would you do? Buy the more expensive oil-filler cap with no real purpose other than looking better or buy the cheaper radiator caps which are also looking better than stock but might even have got a purpose sometimes?? Do you got my point?

Originally posted by Moppie
Why?

I mean really why?
so you can have a radiator cap with Mugen printed on it? :confused: I´m thinking about it like that:
Do you really need a new exhaust for $600 to get a gain of 3hp and to keep your neighbours awake because of the annoying sound it makes? - NO!
Do you really need all this suspension stuff on your daily driver? - NO!
Do you really need this original Mugen bodykit? - NO!
.........
Do you get my point? I want to say that most of the stuff most people are buying for their cars isn´t really necessary but they still keep buying it! So you could ask this question to anybody in here because most cars are just normal daily drivers which really don´t need this cool looking racing muffler and all this stuff. There are only a few true racers in here so if we would always ask `Why do you want to get this?´ we could close AF because nobody REALLY needs aftermarket parts at all!!! Or am I wrong?

ok.


*Ill go hide in the corner now*

:D

i have a jdm radiator cap...:bloated:

^^^^^^^
Instant cue for some of us to say "I have a JDM car" :finger:

Originally posted by Moppie
ok.


*Ill go hide in the corner now*

:D :finger: ;) My Prelude is european domestic and will never be JDM. I really don´t care about stuff like that.

Originally posted by Veetec
I´m thinking about it like that:
Do you really need a new exhaust for $600 to get a gain of 3hp and to keep your neighbours awake because of the annoying sound it makes? - NO!
Do you really need all this suspension stuff on your daily driver? - NO!
Do you really need this original Mugen bodykit? - NO!
.........
Do you get my point? I want to say that most of the stuff most people are buying for their cars isn´t really necessary but they still keep buying it! So you could ask this question to anybody in here because most cars are just normal daily drivers which really don´t need this cool looking racing muffler and all this stuff. There are only a few true racers in here so if we would always ask `Why do you want to get this?´ we could close AF because nobody REALLY needs aftermarket parts at all!!! Or am I wrong?

exhaust is good if u actually have sum engine mods and uh turbo or sumthing i dunno

suspension makes handling a ton better, and umm thats why most ppl use their "daily driver" for more things than daily driven

mugen bodykit looks cool

a radiator cap is umm well a cap, it does nothing but look different, waste of money

all the things u mentioned actually do have a purpose and i dunno where u get that ppl who mod their cars use them for just daily driving, a lot of ppl go on tracks and country roads to screw around etc. or as for bodykits, they either are rich and like awesome looking cars, and perhaps compete in autoshows

Originally posted by jaxle


exhaust is good if u actually have sum engine mods and uh turbo or sumthing i dunno

suspension makes handling a ton better, and umm thats why most ppl use their "daily driver" for more things than daily driven

mugen bodykit looks cool

a radiator cap is umm well a cap, it does nothing but look different, waste of money

all the things u mentioned actually do have a purpose and i dunno where u get that ppl who mod their cars use them for just daily driving, a lot of ppl go on tracks and country roads to screw around etc. or as for bodykits, they either are rich and like awesome looking cars, and perhaps compete in autoshows Um,...yea....whatever. You didn´t get my point! :rolleyes: Read more carefully and don´t talk crap if you don´t know it any better. ( I was pretty sure that everybody would understand what I´m talking about!)

Actually a new radiator cap has got a purpose but I´m not sure if I´d really need it one day. It´s more for show I´d guess... But it´s anyways cheaper for me instead of buying a new oil-filler cap of any brand available over here. Here´s the original comment about it from Kingmotorsports (about the Mugen radiator cap): `This radiator cap is a high-pressure type that increases the pressure inside the radiator, thus raising the coolant boiling point and increasing cooling efficiency. The open valve pressure is 1.3kg/cm² compared to the normal 1.1kg/cm². It demonstrates its power under high-load situations such as circuit driving.´

whatever you say

Now gentlemen lets all keep this friendly.

Raising the pressure in your radiator to conter an over heating problem should only be done as a last resort. A far better, safer and more effective method is to recore the radiator with a bigger core, or prehaps install a high flow water pump.
Riasing the pressure should be avoided, it can cause other things to fail, and dons't address the real problem of why the cars is over heating.

However, having said that, if you do need to raise the pressure then almost any good auto parts store will sell a variety of caps in differnt pressures for your car. There's no need to import an overpriced one from Mugen.
All your getting is a normal cap set to a differnt pressure than stock and wil mugen printed on it. I could get a Marker pen, and make my own one for a lot less money. :D

They have absolutly no purpose in the motorsport. a name will not make the car faster.


However if your into building show cars, then they have a use, and deffinte market.
Although I dont agree with building a car that will only ever be shown and not driven, it is still a valid form of car enthusiasim. and deserves as much respect as any other.

I merely asked why to see if that was what you were doing, or if you wanted to buy one becasue you thought it had a more functional purpose. (and becasue Iv never really understood why someone would build a show car, when driving a car is much more fun. :D )

I eat JDM Food....ramen...yummm.... :D

Originally posted by VTEC_boi
I eat JDM Food....ramen...yummm.... :D
Don't be a ricer and eat rice .. Sushi is JDM ... :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Moppie
[B]However, having said that, if you do need to raise the pressure then almost any good auto parts store will sell a variety of caps in differnt pressures for your car. There's no need to import an overpriced one from Mugen. [QUOTE] Actually not. We don´t have as much aftermarket parts as you US guys have got. I only found the one from Spoon over here. ....and I ´REALLY don´t care if a part is JDM or USDM or whatever. Nobody would know where it´s from anyways over here. :D

But at the end all I wanted to know was if it has got any drawbacks. You´ve (Moppie) told me that it´s not a good idea and so I´m not going to think about it again. :cool:

@jaxle: Sorry! Didn´t mean it like that. :)

Well I can see no technical reason why you should not buy one.
and also no technical reason why you should.

If you want to raise the pressur in your radiator then there are far cheeper alternatives.
and if you in for show then Iv seen far prettier ones in the parts shops.

Originally posted by Moppie
Rising the pressure should be avoided, it can cause other things to fail, and dons't address the real problem of why the cars is over heating.
That´s already a reason for me not to buy such a thing. It was just an idea anyways...:D