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Rebuilding 97 2.2


stock01GrandAm
12-14-2004, 09:46 AM
I am getting started on rebuilding my 2.2 liter 97 s-10 engine. Anyone allready done this that can give me an idea on how much it will run, not making any performance mods, just a rebuild to get it running again.
:2cents:


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busa_4
12-14-2004, 02:20 PM
well, here is a price idea for the internal portion of the engine. you will need a complete gasket set 100.00 -200.00, engine machining (overbore, honing, and align honing) a little more if you want the complete rotating assembly balanced 125.00-150.00, new pistons and all new rings in overbore sizes ~200.00. you can still use you crank and connecting rods if they are usuable. you will also need a complete bearing kit 50.00-100.00. most importantly, you dont just slap all these parts together, you will need many precision tools such as dial indicators, dial calipers, torque wrenches, etc. these prices i am giving you is just an estimate of what i think it would cost. you will have to call around to get an exact price.

BlazerLT
12-14-2004, 05:08 PM
Why rebuild a 2.2?

Get a good 4,3L and drop it in for the same price.

chcknugget
12-14-2004, 05:13 PM
hahaha,
Why put in a 4.3?

Get a good 5.7 and drop it in for the same price.

BlazerLT
12-14-2004, 05:14 PM
Thats stretching it.

stock01GrandAm
12-15-2004, 08:59 AM
well, here is a price idea for the internal portion of the engine. you will need a complete gasket set 100.00 -200.00, engine machining (overbore, honing, and align honing) a little more if you want the complete rotating assembly balanced 125.00-150.00, new pistons and all new rings in overbore sizes ~200.00. you can still use you crank and connecting rods if they are usuable. you will also need a complete bearing kit 50.00-100.00. most importantly, you dont just slap all these parts together, you will need many precision tools such as dial indicators, dial calipers, torque wrenches, etc. these prices i am giving you is just an estimate of what i think it would cost. you will have to call around to get an exact price.

i dont have the time for an engine swap right now, the plans are rebuild the 2.2 and get it back on the road, and V8 it later.

BlazerLT
12-15-2004, 03:26 PM
Check in your area, a whole engine might be cheaper than a rebuild.

stock01GrandAm
12-17-2004, 08:11 AM
i dont have the time for an engine swap right now, the plans are rebuild the 2.2 and get it back on the road, and V8 it later.

i did check around, thats what sparked the rebuild, a used engine wth 80,000-100,000 miles is going for 700-800, so it looks to me like a rebuild, would be the better route to go with it.

busa_4
12-17-2004, 08:21 AM
Do U Have The Specialty Tools To Do This Job? Basic Handtool Will Most Likely Get The Motor Apart But You Will Never Get It Back Together Reliably.

Mikado14
12-17-2004, 10:52 AM
I am getting started on rebuilding my 2.2 liter 97 s-10 engine. Anyone allready done this that can give me an idea on how much it will run, not making any performance mods, just a rebuild to get it running again.
:2cents:


http://www.loweredlimitz.com/chapters/ohiovalley/aaron/Truck10.jpg

First of all, I have to ask this. Why are you rebuilding it? What is wrong?

Most 2.2's that I have seen always seem to be head problems.

s10er
12-18-2004, 12:05 PM
I would not recommend a rebuild. I put a new head on my 2.2 at 90K miles. Now at 130K and the head is bad again.

movin2stereo
12-18-2004, 06:37 PM
Did you happen to price a crate engine?I too priced the junkyard used engines and they were a rip off considering that a couple more hundred would get you a fresh new crate.

movin2stereo
12-18-2004, 06:38 PM
I would not recommend a rebuild. I put a new head on my 2.2 at 90K miles. Now at 130K and the head is bad again.
A new head or a new used head?

stock01GrandAm
12-20-2004, 10:23 AM
Do U Have The Specialty Tools To Do This Job? Basic Handtool Will Most Likely Get The Motor Apart But You Will Never Get It Back Together Reliably.

Well my dad, works for a dealership and can get/borrow any tools required to do an engine rebuild. He has rebuilt many, this is my first.

stock01GrandAm
12-20-2004, 10:24 AM
First of all, I have to ask this. Why are you rebuilding it? What is wrong?

Most 2.2's that I have seen always seem to be head problems.

Well i am not sure what all is wrong internally untill i get it apart, but as of right now i know for a fact the bottom end is locked up.

stock01GrandAm
12-20-2004, 10:25 AM
Did you happen to price a crate engine?I too priced the junkyard used engines and they were a rip off considering that a couple more hundred would get you a fresh new crate.

where did you go through, dealership or an advance auto/autozone....

busa_4
12-20-2004, 01:22 PM
Well If You Can Get The Tools. I Would Go Ahead And Start On It. I Would Expect You To Pay Around 800.00 - 1000.00 To Do This Rebuild If The Block And Heads Are Good/ Rebuildable.

stock01GrandAm
12-22-2004, 04:35 PM
Well If You Can Get The Tools. I Would Go Ahead And Start On It. I Would Expect You To Pay Around 800.00 - 1000.00 To Do This Rebuild If The Block And Heads Are Good/ Rebuildable.

i can live with 800-1000

movin2stereo
12-22-2004, 08:06 PM
where did you go through, dealership or an advance auto/autozone....
Advance Auto.They deal with 2 companies.I went with the Spartan built crate engine.This company had less warranty claims.The other company Recon has many claims,so keep that in mind.

stock01GrandAm
12-23-2004, 09:05 AM
Advance Auto.They deal with 2 companies.I went with the Spartan built crate engine.This company had less warranty claims.The other company Recon has many claims,so keep that in mind.

i did hear about some problems with AutoZone engines....prolly all the one company though.

vtmecheng
12-23-2004, 11:29 AM
I think you are waisting your time rebuilding the engine when you can get a new one for $100-200 more. You will have to take the engine out with both and most things will be taken off the old engine either way.

movin2stereo
12-23-2004, 05:12 PM
When my 4.3 spun a main,I looked at all my options.Rebuild,used engine,crate engine.To rebuild was expensive(I wasn't doing it),a used engine cost to much and most had to many miles,that left me with the crate.The crate cost a little more than the used(not much)and it came with a 18 month unlimited mile warranty.Keep this in mind.

stock01GrandAm
12-27-2004, 08:57 AM
When my 4.3 spun a main,I looked at all my options.Rebuild,used engine,crate engine.To rebuild was expensive(I wasn't doing it),a used engine cost to much and most had to many miles,that left me with the crate.The crate cost a little more than the used(not much)and it came with a 18 month unlimited mile warranty.Keep this in mind.

very good point, i will look into the cost of a crat engine, thanks for your help.

stock01GrandAm
12-31-2004, 08:41 AM
I called AutoZone, and they do not deal in Spartan Engines, and they want $1500.00 for one. I dont think that is the way for me to go.

movin2stereo
01-01-2005, 12:00 PM
Who do they deal with?

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