99 gst wouldnt start
smokeurass
12-13-2004, 09:31 AM
This is my first time in a long time back here...
This morning my 99 gst wasnt starting and when it did it was sounding a little weird. This could be becuase it was cold, but im thinking this may be leading to crankwalk or something.
Kevin, if your still here can you give me some advice as what to check in order to prevent this or anything else that may become a problem?
Anyone else's advice would be great. thank you
This morning my 99 gst wasnt starting and when it did it was sounding a little weird. This could be becuase it was cold, but im thinking this may be leading to crankwalk or something.
Kevin, if your still here can you give me some advice as what to check in order to prevent this or anything else that may become a problem?
Anyone else's advice would be great. thank you
spyderturbo007
12-13-2004, 10:51 AM
If you are concerned that it is crankwalk then you need to remove the lower timing belt cover and check the play in the crank (I don't remember what the specs are). Also, check to make sure the CAS is not destroyed.
BoostedSpyder
12-13-2004, 07:59 PM
CW is a big step. i would guess it is a cold start. if it persists then you will have a problem. if the clutch sticks to the floor making lefts, that ain't good. but jumping right to CW is kindof a long shot.
check www.racingknowledge.com (http://www.racingknowledge.com) in the DSM/CW section...
check www.racingknowledge.com (http://www.racingknowledge.com) in the DSM/CW section...
Black97GST
12-13-2004, 10:07 PM
does crankwalk do that??? (make it not start sometimes) what is a CAS??? mine does preaty much the same thing
Black97GST
12-15-2004, 01:23 PM
any one know??? could there be a flat spot in my starter if it only happens once in a while like once every two to four weeks???
TreeFrog
12-15-2004, 03:05 PM
car starting in the cold? i had this problem. try giving it gas when starting. my problem was my stock BOV hose return thinging was unclamped creating boost leak. also 1 of my spark plugs was out so i was running on 3 cylinders.
check air filter, boost leaks around the BOV, battery, and spark plugs. also try putting some fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank. solved my problems.
check air filter, boost leaks around the BOV, battery, and spark plugs. also try putting some fuel injector cleaner in the gas tank. solved my problems.
Black97GST
12-15-2004, 04:08 PM
yeah im a bout to get new plugs and wires so ill see if that helps
BoostedSpyder
12-15-2004, 09:09 PM
ya also if you go to Jiffy Lube [or the likes] you can get a fuel injector cleaner service where they put this stuff directly into the intake mani. did wonders for me...
plugs and wires may be another issue. get NGK BPR7ES plugs and gap them to ~.028. stock wires are also a great buy. the website that just got posted in another thread might be a great place to get cheap mitsu parts too...
plugs and wires may be another issue. get NGK BPR7ES plugs and gap them to ~.028. stock wires are also a great buy. the website that just got posted in another thread might be a great place to get cheap mitsu parts too...
Black97GST
12-15-2004, 09:29 PM
Well i have come to a conclusion that i think that there is flat spot on my starter b/c i hear the starter solenoid click but the engine doesnt turn over, so the brushes must be in the "flat spot" at that time b/c after i keep clicking and moving the starter a little bit it then the car turns over so im gonna get a new starter. Does anyone know about how much a starter is for a 1997 GST??
Scoped_GST
12-15-2004, 10:59 PM
2g tranny starter will run you for about 160 or so from the dealership, but it is gauranteed to work. Remanufactured from pepboys or autozone will be around $90 or so. But mind you, it is a BITCH to install yourself, so make sure that you raise your car a bit, have a friend there to help, and have some bright lights to reach in there. Other than that, its pretty simple to install except the accessibility issue and a few hard to reach bolts. Was a pain in the arse to install on friends tranny. Any questions about it just shoot em my way...unless you are like a pro and I am just making an idiot out of myself...-_-
Black97GST
12-16-2004, 12:44 PM
no im no pro lol but my dad and grandpa are mechanics so they should be able to do it
spyderturbo007
12-16-2004, 04:51 PM
does crankwalk do that??? (make it not start sometimes) what is a CAS??? mine does preaty much the same thing
To answer your question...
The CAS is the Crank Angle Sensor
If I remember correctly it is a white optical sensor that determines the angle of the crank. When the crank begins to walk it begins hitting, and eventually destroying, the CAS. No CAS = No Start!!
Glad to hear it's not CW :smokin:
To answer your question...
The CAS is the Crank Angle Sensor
If I remember correctly it is a white optical sensor that determines the angle of the crank. When the crank begins to walk it begins hitting, and eventually destroying, the CAS. No CAS = No Start!!
Glad to hear it's not CW :smokin:
EclipseRST
12-17-2004, 08:17 AM
Ok first thing to know is the motor turning over? Or are you talking about the starter not even turning the motor over. When you turn the key on does the car try to start but just keeps turning over? If so you need to check if you have Spark and Fuel. If you have those then you need to check compression. If everything is fine and you still cant get it started your timing is off.
Now if it just doesnt turn over, check the batter connection and check the connection of the wires that run to the starter. Make sure everything is grounded good and the power wire to the starter is good and has a good tight connection. Maybe even take some jumper cables and run the black wire to one of the starter bolts and then to the negative battery cable. If that works then you need a better ground to the starter. If not it seems as if your starter could be bad! Good luck.
Now if it just doesnt turn over, check the batter connection and check the connection of the wires that run to the starter. Make sure everything is grounded good and the power wire to the starter is good and has a good tight connection. Maybe even take some jumper cables and run the black wire to one of the starter bolts and then to the negative battery cable. If that works then you need a better ground to the starter. If not it seems as if your starter could be bad! Good luck.
Black97GST
12-17-2004, 12:15 PM
no the motor doesnt turn over, when i turn the key it just clicks, like the starter solenoid or something??? i dont know but im almost positive its the starter I'll check and make sure the ground wire to the starter is grounded good and the power cable is connected good, but first i lol does anyone know where it is located???
EclipseRST
12-17-2004, 02:11 PM
Left side of the motor, in the rear, right under the intake manifold. The starter sits agains the block and sticks into the bell housing on the tranny. You might need to take the battery and UICP out to get at it.
Black97GST
12-18-2004, 08:03 PM
ok thanks a lot for all of your help!
kjewer1
12-22-2004, 01:34 PM
Did you get this resolved? I've seen bad connections on the battery terminals provide enough power to actuate the solenoid (click), but not turn the motor over. And bad cables can cause intermitent problems such as yours.
I rewired the whole starter with stereo stuff. There MIGHT be pics on the website. I lost my harddrive a couple week ago so if they arent there we're screwed. But its a good, cheap mod that anyone with any wiring knowledge can do. If you can hook up and amp, you can replace that crusty old POS starter wire and make up a couple grounds. If your starter wire itself is in good shape however, I wouldnt bother.
I rewired the whole starter with stereo stuff. There MIGHT be pics on the website. I lost my harddrive a couple week ago so if they arent there we're screwed. But its a good, cheap mod that anyone with any wiring knowledge can do. If you can hook up and amp, you can replace that crusty old POS starter wire and make up a couple grounds. If your starter wire itself is in good shape however, I wouldnt bother.
Black97GST
12-22-2004, 10:40 PM
No i havent had time to try to fix it. lol plus its sooooo cold here in ohio, we got 12" of snow today the roads are sooo bad. Today is when i wish i had a 4x4 truck but noooo i have a turbo front wheel drive car, lol it sucks so bad in the snow lol. hopefully when it gets warmer and i get more time i will fix it.
Im getting ready to go to London England on Monday for 9 days woo hoo, so i cant work on it any time soon but it hasent done it for about 2 weeks so its not a REAL huge problem
Im getting ready to go to London England on Monday for 9 days woo hoo, so i cant work on it any time soon but it hasent done it for about 2 weeks so its not a REAL huge problem
kjewer1
12-23-2004, 09:26 AM
My GSX was ridiculous in the snow, it would put you into the leather in a blizzard. Especially when I used to run the Bridgestone Blizzaks, but it was ballsy even with the SP Sport 4k tires that I race on. :D The truck does pretty well too, epsecially in 6WD (Doooooooooolly..). I'm really looking forward to having to climb this big ass hill I live on, when we have a good 8 inches or so on the ground... :)
Black97GST
12-23-2004, 09:50 AM
yeah, my dad has a 2003 Jeep Wrangler 4x4 its lifted 8" and i love driving that thing in the snow and in the summer and taking it mudding! its sooo fun!
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