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Transfer case busted to hell, please read.


Gateway
12-12-2004, 07:40 PM
Ok my transfer case busted all to hell on friday night when I did a 6k rpm drop. with the new clutch I just wanted to see how different the car is now with it.

here is the question....with a new transfer case, should I be worried about that doing it again or what? since the transfer case is a recalled item, I presume hopefully that the defect that caused the recall made it weaker than it should be or something....

gimme the scoop.

G35turbo
12-12-2004, 08:22 PM
I am sorry about your car.
You shouldent off goten that strong of a clutch but oh well shit happens.
I think it wont be a such good i idea to do it again. I am really going to stop dropin around 6k rpm. I am not going to go ove 5k rpm.
I think if you even got the new t-case you will still busted if you keep dropin it hard.
Did you already changed your transfer case under recall or is this your first time?
Do you think Mitsubishi dealers would change the T-case for the second time?
I would think they would fix the problem so you dont have keep fixin it!!! I hope!!!!!

Igovert500
12-13-2004, 02:32 PM
3si has plenty of info on teh T-case recall...I think they are supposed to fix it as many times as necessary...read up on it over there.

Gateway
12-13-2004, 06:09 PM
well I found out my whole tranny is busted, not just the transfer case. i'm so happy. :/

Rothrandir
12-13-2004, 06:18 PM
maybe you could get insurance to cover it? ;) :eek:

really though, that sucks man :(

if you get to the point where you decide you just want to start over with a new car, let me know ;)

Gateway
12-13-2004, 06:58 PM
no way insurance will cover it.

i think it's gonna be fixed, I have a generous grandpa. my dad's calling me now, so I'll see what's up.

Igovert500
12-13-2004, 07:33 PM
That sucks man...what exactly broke? Do you know yet?

Gateway
12-13-2004, 07:51 PM
transfer case is busted all apart, and I guess the tranny is gone too, according to the shop, it needs a whole tranny.

xXxRocker5150
12-14-2004, 09:30 AM
You sure the shop's not jus throwin' ya for a loop??? I hope you get the problem fixed.

6g72tt
12-14-2004, 02:56 PM
the same problem with me exept that i busted a mustang like 4 blocks and then got my car in my garage and the next day the car had died on me jajajajaj and i went to the dealer and they said that the tranny and the transfer where dead, i just installed a clutch and flywheel with them and the car is perfectly running

Linebckr49
12-14-2004, 03:49 PM
ya, some shops don't know jack. get them to tell you exactly and specifically what is wrong/broken. dont' just take their word for it. also, a trusted mechanic is hard to find, and a 2nd opinion isn't a bad idea.

6g72tt
12-14-2004, 05:25 PM
yeah the only thing that my stealth needed was the flywheel cause i never change it when i changed the clutch

Gateway
12-14-2004, 06:02 PM
ok well the tranny is definitely bad. the mechanic has been working on my car for years, and is a family friend. He wouldn't lie. Overcharge maybe, but not lie.

I found a rebuilt tranny with transfer case, they only have 15,000 miles on them. $2750 for both, free shipping.

My 2nd gear synchro was going out in my tranny as well, so I get a free 2nd gear synchro fix.

For all that has happened, I'm happy for the outcome.

G35turbo
12-14-2004, 06:54 PM
First of all Gateway i think a brand new tranny from the dealer is about $3500. If i was u go and c how much is a brand new one and if its like a $500 difference i would go with the brand new one.

Hey 6172tt how long after u changed your clutch did u have to change your flywheel, because i am gettein my clutch this friday and i was wondering how much flywheel i got left. I have 69500 miles on my car so how much do u guys think i got left on my flywheel?
How do u know u need a flywheel?

Gateway
12-14-2004, 09:40 PM
this is rebuilt, damn near new (15k miles on it) and the transfer case is included, and so is shipping for 2750. the cheapest I found besides that was 3500 + shipping.

also, my dad called mitsubishi today, and they are trying to tell him that because I put a performance clutch on my car, that i'm not eligible for a recall on the transfer case. what do you think?

talskinyguy
12-15-2004, 06:48 PM
Mitsu wont do the recall if there are performance parts on the car, plus the recall is for leaking seals, not for weak parts.

New trannys are in the range of 7000 list, but arent made anymore fot the TT's. If you buy one from a dealership you will get a CRS remanufactured unit.

G35turbo
12-16-2004, 09:59 PM
Did u call them after you busted ur tranny or before?
I am just about to put my clutch in my car and then go to the dealer and change my transfer case or should i take my car and change the transfer case before puttin the clutch??? My problem is i cant even barely drive the car becasue of the clutch and i only can make one trip.

If you dont tell them that you got a new after market clutch how are they going to know????? I dont think they take out the whole tranny to just replace or fix a transfer case!!!!!

Gateway
12-16-2004, 10:17 PM
once you take out the transfer case you can get to the clutch very easily (so the mechanic says) because in order to replace the clutch you gotta pull out the transfer case anyways (again, so the mechanic says)

i didn't do anything regarding the transfer case until after it was busted.

6g72tt
12-17-2004, 04:43 AM
hi g35turbo look i really dont now at how many miles youll need a change of fly wheel but in the dealer (parts and accessories) they told my that each time you replace the clutch you also have to replace the flywheel i didnt knew that and what happend is that my clutch got busted very quick and have to change it again and again i change it 4 time in 2 years that really suck cause i was fucking the tranny but now that i know every time im replacing clutch im replacing teh flywheel

G35turbo
12-17-2004, 09:00 AM
What do u mean by busting?
If it brakes or cracks or something like that, the clutch got warranty and thats what it covers.

Igovert500
12-17-2004, 10:25 AM
To my knowledge, you don't need to change the flywheel, when changing a clutch...it is a good idea to do them at the same time, if you are getting a new clutch, and were considering a lighter flywheel, it is a good time to do both, so you only pay for labor once...however, getting a new flywheel isn't required as far as I know. A new pressure plate and whatnot...yes, but flywheel no...somone correct me if I am wrong here.

If you are replacing clutches that quickly...either you are abusing the hell out of them, someone is putting them in wrong...or something, because that is very excessive...unless you are getting the heaviest clutch you can find and putting 25,000 miles on your car each year.

G35turbo
12-17-2004, 12:19 PM
What kind of clutch do use?

Linebckr49
12-17-2004, 01:21 PM
whoa, you guys are a little confused. and your mechanics or dealerships are either STUPID or trying to rip you off.

you do NOT need to REPLACE your flywheel each time you replace your clutch. However, when you replace your clutch, it is necessary to RESURFACE your flywheel. this is where the confusion might be. look at it like this: during operation, your clutch is engaging-disengaging-engaging. over and over, this produces wear and tear on MAINLY your clutch, but also the flywheel. the flywheel surface is worn down unevenly. so when you put your NEW clutch in, the new clutch (by virtue of it being NEW) should have a smooth flat even surface. it is NECESSARY to get the most out of your clutch that the flywheel by RESURFACED to an even, flat surface...so that when the clutch and flywheel meet (engage-disengage...)in operation, that there is smooth, full contact. Otherwise, a flywheel, not having been resurfaced, will quickly wear down the clutch...and you'll most likely have to replace the clutch sooner than you thought.

Now i HAVE heard of flywheels needing to replacing. i think when you resurface your flywheel so many times, its no longer thick enough for factory spec operation. Same idea of turning your brake rotors if they are warped...once they pass (decrease beyond) a certain thickness, they are not usable anymore (or at least not safe for use).

I do know that for some aftermarket lightened flywheels (RPS, for example), they sell replaceable flywheel 'pads'. i think this is for when your flywheel wears down, you can replace the 'pads' rather than getting a new flywheel, altogether. I don't think Fidanza has this option on their flywheels, but i'm not positive. However, i don't think you should be replacing your flywheel often (like maybe every 100K miles at the very least) UNLESS it undergoes EXTREME abuse...like those 6000RPM launches we all love [VR4 owners...of which i am only a spectator :( ]

happy clutching!

Linebckr49
12-17-2004, 01:24 PM
oh, a little addendum. for those interested in resurfacing their flywheels: this should be done every time you change your clutch. also, the shop that changes your clutch should be able to resurface the flywheel as well. when i had my clutch replaced, to resurface the flywheel it was only like 30 bucks.

6g72tt
12-17-2004, 02:23 PM
aok ok thanks bro, and they told me that i changed the clutcht like 4 time in 2 years maybe is because they didnt resurface the flywheel but hey i dont now

Linebckr49
12-18-2004, 05:57 PM
they told me that i changed the clutcht like 4 time in 2 years maybe is because they didnt resurface the flywheel but hey i dont now

THEY told you this? who, may i ask, is "they"? if its a dealership, then i'll withhold my rant, as you all know i hate em. But what gets me is that the place that works on your car obviously KNEW they didn't resurface your flywheel. So it sounds like they purposely didn't resurface the flywheel, or didn't even tell you it needed to be done, so that they could get more of your money when you came to replace very early your once new clutch. Sounds pretty shady to me. of course, this is all speculation, but i'd have a serious talk with these people...and maybe even not take your car back to them.

any mechanic shop who knows anything about cars, should know that you MUST resurface the flywheel each time the clutch is changed. and since it sounds like these guys didn't know that (or knew it but were possibly screwing you over) i'd would give them a piece of my mind, then leave.

6g72tt
12-18-2004, 07:13 PM
well you are right by they i referred as the mechanics in the dealer man yeah it must of work like that and they also told my my tranny was thinning and also my transfer case and both needed to be replaced NEW the whole tranny and transfer case were 5500 dlls new

Linebckr49
12-20-2004, 10:08 AM
yeah it must of work like that and they also told my my tranny was thinning and also my transfer case and both needed to be replaced NEW the whole tranny and transfer case were 5500 dlls new

just further evidence that most (probably not all) dealers are f*#@in b@#ches! they try to screw the customer by making him/her pay more than ha needs to buy parts that aren't needed. and on top of that, they LIE to you by not telling you the whole truth because they take ADVANTAGE of you, treat you simply as a means to more money in their pocket. They could care less about customer satisfaction because its probably ZERO everywhere, b/c everyone hates the Stealership.

Ya, don't ever take your car back there.

Gateway
12-20-2004, 06:10 PM
tranny comes in tomorrow, can't wait for it to be fixed. I miss it terribly

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