Video of the Marines in Fallujah
YogsVR4
12-09-2004, 12:06 PM
17 minutes - amazing
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40566000/bb/40566639_bb_16x9.asx
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/news_web/video/40566000/bb/40566639_bb_16x9.asx
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youngvr4
12-09-2004, 01:28 PM
geez, the stuff they gotta go through
salutes!!!
salutes!!!
Heep
12-09-2004, 03:56 PM
geez, the stuff they gotta go through
Indeed. I only wish Bush would see what he's done to Americans and Iraqis alike. :(
Props to the soldiers, though - I know I've said this before, but I could never handle it.
I am, however, at my core, a "why" person. I have to question everything, and frankly I'm shocked at how (perhaps naively?) convinced they all (or most) seem to be about how "right" this whole thing is.
"...[Marines] are bringing the wrath of a just government..."
"...the enemy has got a face, he's called Satan, and he's in Fallujah"
Also, a boy, ~10 years old, with a weapon, dead from fighting off Marines - shows how much they don't want their city, their home taken from them...
Oh, and Colonel Brandle needs longer temples on his glasses :p
Indeed. I only wish Bush would see what he's done to Americans and Iraqis alike. :(
Props to the soldiers, though - I know I've said this before, but I could never handle it.
I am, however, at my core, a "why" person. I have to question everything, and frankly I'm shocked at how (perhaps naively?) convinced they all (or most) seem to be about how "right" this whole thing is.
"...[Marines] are bringing the wrath of a just government..."
"...the enemy has got a face, he's called Satan, and he's in Fallujah"
Also, a boy, ~10 years old, with a weapon, dead from fighting off Marines - shows how much they don't want their city, their home taken from them...
Oh, and Colonel Brandle needs longer temples on his glasses :p
YogsVR4
12-09-2004, 04:23 PM
Heep - not all the fighters in Fallujah are protecting their 'homes' many of those people are not Iraqis (and I'm not making a smart ass comment about those people being from the US etc.)
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Heep
12-10-2004, 08:07 AM
Heep - not all the fighters in Fallujah are protecting their 'homes' many of those people are not Iraqis (and I'm not making a smart ass comment about those people being from the US etc.)
Understood.
It just says to me though that these people just want to be left alone :(
BTW, just me and my fickleness speaking here, but if they're not all Iraqi, should we really be calling them "insurgents?" :confused:
Understood.
It just says to me though that these people just want to be left alone :(
BTW, just me and my fickleness speaking here, but if they're not all Iraqi, should we really be calling them "insurgents?" :confused:
Thourun
12-10-2004, 09:04 AM
Thats why I love the BBC, great journalism.
Cbass
12-10-2004, 04:16 PM
Only a few contradictory statements there!
Like how there were only 500 meters of city to fight through, therefore the insurgents were trapped, yet not five minutes earler they had stated that the insurgents were employing guerrilla tactics, and slipping away when the marines advance... Is it not possible to conceive that those insurgents are not in the only 500 meters of city that the marines have not swept through?
The great display of competence that they couldn't take that small house until the insurgents had left, and then the troops were so paranoid that it was boobytrapped, apparently because the insurgents had enough morale to chant, that they felt the need to destroy it with tanks.
I respect that they are actually living up to their commitment, but I don't see these men as heros, they're just doing their job.
Like how there were only 500 meters of city to fight through, therefore the insurgents were trapped, yet not five minutes earler they had stated that the insurgents were employing guerrilla tactics, and slipping away when the marines advance... Is it not possible to conceive that those insurgents are not in the only 500 meters of city that the marines have not swept through?
The great display of competence that they couldn't take that small house until the insurgents had left, and then the troops were so paranoid that it was boobytrapped, apparently because the insurgents had enough morale to chant, that they felt the need to destroy it with tanks.
I respect that they are actually living up to their commitment, but I don't see these men as heros, they're just doing their job.
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