Ok New LOG!

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16g
UICP/LICP
1gBOV
Cone airfilter/MAS adapter
SMIC
MBC @16psi
550cc injectors
190lb fuel pump
S-AFCII

lol ok i did it this way because i couldnt figure out how to upload it any onther way. YEA I SUCK lol it was only to 6440rpms because the roads have been wet and rainy all week and this is the only time i found a drie road.

you've offically confused me.

lol you think your confused, you relize how long its been since i started tunning lol

Heh, no offense, but your timing is absolutely horrendous! You're getting 6 deg. of peak timing :eek7: . What are you tuning with, AFC? What are your settings?

yea i know. my timing is getting f***ed. Im tunning with S-AFCII. Damn ECU is robbing me of Timing, which = hp


Throttle Points low 30% high 80%
Hi Throttle Points
1k -13
2k -13
2.4k -11
3k -11
3.6k -15
4k -14
4.6k -12
5k -15
5.6k -15
6k -14
6.4k -13
7k -12

dont know if you need to know this but i didnt mess witht his at all but
Dec Air Thr. ****% Ne1 10% Ne2 10%

Sensor type Karman

Car
4cyl (arrow pointing at 2o'clock

Dude, your timing is basically the opposite of what it should be! You are probably getting some serious knock. Rich that shit back up...

so drop the Hi throttle points by about -2r3

im sure you've checked your tps? its 100% @ wot right! you know that your base fuel pressure and timing are where there suppose to be? you deffenly need richen that shit up! 24.81 airflow? you've checked for boost leaks right?

is that a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd gear log?

3rd, checked for boost leaks and cant find shit.
my tps is low 30% and hi 80% i thought this is how you set it.

i adjusted it 3% more on each one. I'll make another pull today after work and will post it when i get it.

would me changing the turbo intake tube help the airflow. i still have the stock one with the dump tube and everything. i got the HOME DEPOT( well actually ACE) setup that kevin talked about. i'll be doing that this weekend. what should the air flow rate be about,

3rd, checked for boost leaks and cant find shit.
my tps is low 30% and hi 80% i thought this is how you set it.

What he means by TPS is the Throttle Position Sensor. This is one of the parameters you can watch with your logger. There is no need to log this parameter, but it is something to check. While just cruising around add Throttle Position to the parameters you are looking at. Put the petal to the floor and take a glance at the value on the logger. It should be right around 100% (I think mine is about 98 or 99%).

What he means by TPS is the Throttle Position Sensor. This is one of the parameters you can watch with your logger. There is no need to log this parameter, but it is something to check. While just cruising around add Throttle Position to the parameters you are looking at. Put the petal to the floor and take a glance at the value on the logger. It should be right around 100% (I think mine is about 98 or 99%).


oooooh DOH!!! i'll check that

/EDIT/
ok its at 100% WOT

first log
wet road but i found a dry stretch( i thought, I started spinning a little)

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/553000-553999/553181_24.jpg


Second run
Dry stretch but still spins a little when boost kicks on,but thats normal even on bone dry roads.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/553000-553999/553181_25.jpg


both runs the Ne points were set at
1k~~~-11
2k~~~-11
2.4K~~-9
3k~~~-10
3.6k~~-13
4k~~~-13
4.6k~~-10
5k~~~-13
5.6k~~-13
6k~~~-12
6.4k~~-11
7k~~~-11

add another 3%, and pull upto 7000. drop the last o2 and add IPW

well i'll have to in the morning, Its storming now. When i got off work it was drizzling but i found a little stretch of dry road but now its pouring down.
I'll do that first thing in the morning and then post it when i get to school about 8am central time.

i love it when you get your car tuned perfectly and everything runs so smooth...

well my car isnt tuned perfectly yet.
How are the new logs looking, better,worst,so-so.

well my car isnt tuned perfectly yet.
How are the new logs looking, better,worst,so-so.
It looks as if the timing is getting up to the range where it is supposed to be.

add another 3%, and pull upto 7000. drop the last o2 and add IPW


Whats IPW?

see i dont know how to use any of that computer/fuel tuning stuff ,hell i dont even know how to read it...i just had to tune my car by good ole fasion 'know how'.

well my good ol fashino know how dnt know SH*T lol

IPW = Injector Pulse Width

You aren't able to view IPW on the pocketlogger.

well woke up this morning thinking YEA!! let me get the log on the dry srteets. Walked outside HA! raining Got to love my luck. Well its stopped now so hopefully when i go on my school break i'll try and mke a log if I can find a dry strip. If not I'll try to make one on my way to work nd post it tonight when i get off work. Keep up the good work DSMers. Keep the advice coming.

2 new logs

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/553000-553999/553181_26.jpg

looks like i may be getting on the rich side.Also there is a big jump in timing toward the end of the run, should i richen it up a little up until the timing jump rpm.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/553000-553999/553181_27.jpg

had a good pull going until some dumb sh** in a riced out civic( go figure) pulls out in front of me.


I'll make another pull on the way to work and make sure i pull to 7K, i'll post it when i get off work.

This is the new log from on my way to work.
all the way to 7k well 6990

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/553000-553999/553181_28.jpg

ok only log o2b1 and timing. you will get more hits like that. you should see the trend by now [as far as what your adjustments are doing]. shoot for .96 across the board on the air/fuel.

AND BY GOD GET RID OF THAT POS INTAKE/DUMP TUBE!!!!!!

that is the biggest no no in the game!!!!

i think your airflow will increase dramaticaly like that.

i would do that before i did anymore logs or anything because when you do it you are going to have to retune again.

Ok i just went to see about installing that new Ace Hardware intake tube, BUT, i still need one piece before i can complete it. I need a hose nipple for the BOV return tube.
One Question about that return tube. Can i just leave it unhooked. or plug it. Or should i go head and get the piece to hook it up. I dnt know if there are any benifits for leaving it unhooked. I think I read a few things about venting BOV's but nothing about venting the 1g BOV.
ANYWAY, i'll hook that up tomorrow after work and then i'll make a pull and see what the log looks like with the new intake tube. THanks for all the help guys.

Ok i just went to see about installing that new Ace Hardware intake tube, BUT, i still need one piece before i can complete it. I need a hose nipple for the BOV return tube.
One Question about that return tube. Can i just leave it unhooked. or plug it. Or should i go head and get the piece to hook it up. I dnt know if there are any benifits for leaving it unhooked. I think I read a few things about venting BOV's but nothing about venting the 1g BOV.
ANYWAY, i'll hook that up tomorrow after work and then i'll make a pull and see what the log looks like with the new intake tube. THanks for all the help guys.

It doesn't matter if it is a 1g or 2g BOV.....you still can't vent.

It doesn't matter if it is a 1g or 2g BOV.....you still can't vent.

Spyder's right...Venting without gm-maf/t = nono.

you know. i really dont think intake pipes do anything for airflow at this stage of the game. i see everyone spending the $ in the beginning for injen, dejon, exc. with your 16g turbo pulling 27 lb/min max the major restrictions have all ready been addressed. exhaust, uicp, bov, 2.5 turbo back, and fuel contolle. it looks nice to do, and if you get a new intake charge pipe you do get rid of that dumptube, but without going to a tubo that has the compresser wheel pulling more then 40lb/min your not restricking anything by using the stock intake w/cone or fipk. but then everytings that size has 3in compressor wheels so you have to get a new intake anyway. i wonder why i even spent the $ on that, i should have used it twords an exhaust.

ok didnt think so, didnt thing you could vent the stock bov's i knew some aftermarket ones could be vented.

you cant vent any bov on our cars. doesnt matter what kind of bov the problem is that our cars measure the amount of air coming in at the filter so if you dump the bov it thinks that that air is still in the sytem and the car runs rich. sometimes you can get away with it but its always bad and will always cause richness when the bov vents

it's not that you can't, it is that you shouldn't.

i don't want to get too deep into a dead horse, but here it goes:

when you vent you are blowing out air that has already been counted. but you are only venting when you shift. so when you shift you run a little rich, and will backfire a during shifts sometimes too.

it seems that you can get away with it after a couple rounds of modding. i did and now i vent all the time with no ill side effects.

but at this stage get a return hose.

if you are feeling a little bling you can get a pipe off ebay for pretty cheap ~60 bucks if i'm not mistaken. not exactly cheap as a home depot, but exactly the same as a $200 Injen pipe.

yea i new about y we shouldnt vent yet. I was just wondering. Yea Im going to get some of that plasticbond stuuf and spray it on the intake first then use some high heat engine paint and paint the intake tube. It looks good for only costing $20. Yea there was no way in hell i was going to pay $100+ for a Dejon or other similar intake tube just because its polished or metal and the name brand.

Oh yea when you vent the BOV, itsnt it a lot louder?

yes its much louder vented. its also louder with an aftermarket intake pipe.

Ok well I finished my Intake tube.I havnt tried making a pull with it but I got on the boost a little and man it felt strong even at that point. and wow its a lot louder. :ylsuper:

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Its not pretty but Im going to paint it later.

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Yea not pretty either but you know, When you are smoking someone they cant see under your hood anyway. Like I always say If you beat me, You can check whats under the hood. Or if your a DSMer

Dont know whats the problem with the links and pics.

Ok fellas, and ladies, I made that intake pipe and this morning when i tried to make a pull I got the damn fuel cut, well not fuel cut but remeber how i explaind that when in 3rd and i put load on it that at about 4k-4.5k at WOT it cuts out and backfires, but i think i' getting too much air, but when I turned the AFC richer like 1% it still did it, Maybe on my school lunch break i'll make a pull at the original settings before I made that last 3% richer setting that scottee told me. I'll try these settings again with the intake.
1k~~~-9
2k~~~-9
2.4K~~-7
3k~~~-8
3.6k~~-11
4k~~~-11
4.6k~~-8
5k~~~-11
5.6k~~-11
6k~~~-10
6.4k~~-9
7k~~~-9

But I have noticed that at the same rpms, before i get that cut out, im about 3. more AirFlow rate. Which is a good thing. Which is why I think its cutting out because of more air than fuel? I dont know. I'll post the new log in about a hour.

Ok got new logs

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=500/66630dec14a.JPG

got fuel cut or something.


http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/66630dec14b.JPG
Didnt get fuel cut but the timing and o2 voltage look horrible.That intake pipe is getting a lot more air into the turbo though. My AirFlow Rate has increased a lot.

you think this could be caused by the new intake pipe leaking after the MAS?

you knocking strait from the get go. are your plugs and wires good? i had the same problem, but i didnt log it. your 02's might be going bad. when you figure it all out, you just might be pushing over 30/lbs min.

i've never seen a fuel cut log. you might want to try dsmtuner, its a little more populated then AF

Yea, I just thought about my plugs. I mean the plugs are the same ones when i got my car, and they been through the whole tuning process. Maybe they are bad.

Ok well I found out why my last logs where so screwed, well hopefully this was the reason. On my intake tube the barb fitting that i got the BOV dump tube attached to was out the hole. so when i get to work today im going to get a pipe nipple with threads on it so i can screw it then silicon around it so it would hold better. I had just a slip in hose barb. and i guess just the vibration was too much for the slip in.
Also after installing the intake I've noticed its a little stiff when shifting to 5th. Isnt there a counter weight or something you can take off, Im thinking that the weight is hitting the intake or one of the hoses that where moved a little to make rooom for the tube.
I'll fix that 2day then make some new logs.