A war story from iraq

i thought i'd share this story to you all

first of all my cousin is a marine, lance corp. mp= military police

he's stationed near basra, not to far from kuwait

near his site is a huge cemetery and holy temple's

as him and his sargent were driving along near the cemetery, my cousin comes close to getting hit by a bullet. he's one of the 2 people in his crew who own the 50 caliber guns that you see on top of the trucks.
they stop and cover and the other marines in the crew come to help
they end up in the cemtery in a shootout with the terrorists.

my cousin has on him a M16 fully automatic, thats what the marines use and the army also i beleive.
30 round clips and he has about 5 clips on him, a saw in the truck which is a sick gun, it can let off 1000 rounds in 2 minutes, and they hold 200 round drums. and a 9mm baretta.
its dusk when this is going on and they are firing non-stop. he looks over the tombstone he's behind and starts firing back. he'll see a head pop up and he'd shoot and the head would drop, but he wasn't sure if he hit them or not cause they guy might have just ducked down. its an hour into the fight now its dark out and my cousin hears the sargent yell something. my cousin named marshall asks the sargent to repeat what he yelled, the sargent yells "nothing just keep shooting"
marshall runs out of ammo and goes to the saw. as hes firing he said at one point he could feel the bullet go right past his face. at this point he feels rage but stays calm.
2 hours later the fight finally comes to an end, yes it was a 3 hour shoot out.
the sargent gets them all together after the fight and talks to them about what they did good and what they could have done better.
after the 30 minute talk the sargent says, alright guys good job and i gotta go get patched up, they guys say for what. sargent says
'i got shot'" he was shot a inch below his waist right above his left leg.

crazy, the sargent was fighting for 2 hours after getting shot and then spoke to his people with a straight face for 30 minutes.
thats a tough guy.

Not to rain on your parade, and a good story, but that sort of thing is common. I could relate similar stories all day long. It's just that some people want US soldiers portrayed as spineless wimps that don't want to do their jobs.

Impressive.

It seriously took them 3 hours and countless thousands of dollars worth of ammunition to kill a few farmers with AK47's who resent the fact you're invading their country for no reason? Wow.

It seriously took them 3 hours and countless thousands of dollars worth of ammunition to kill a few farmers with AK47's who resent the fact you're invading their country for no reason? Wow.

HAHAHAHAA, you must be firing golden bullets. A 1000 round crate of 5.56mm is like $10.

thank you broke, and Oz try more like 20 of them.

oh, you must be one of those that deeply hate bush and the decision on war.
i probably agree with you for the most part. but with the marines bieng in a bad position and the iraqi's in a perfect position(behind a building and on top of one)i say it came out pretty good, with only 1 marine bieng shot. there's' 14 of them and atleast 15-20 iraqi's qouted from my cousin.

You can disagree with the War but you should never put down the soldiers. Its not the soldiers who decided to raid Iraq, its the old politicians in D.C. who are safely away from danger that made the decision.

I am glad to hear that your cousin came out of the fire fight unscathed.

As for the bashing... its easy to do when your not involved in any shape or form.

It seriously took them 3 hours and countless thousands of dollars worth of ammunition to kill a few farmers with AK47's who resent the fact you're invading their country for no reason? Wow.


See what I mean?

You can disagree with the War but you should never put down the soldiers. Its not the soldiers who decided to raid Iraq, its the old politicians in D.C. who are safely away from danger that made the decision.


A wise post.


Props to the sarge for doing his job well,and a big fat finger to those who try to pretend that if you are against the war, you are against the military.

yeah Oz, your a f***ing idiot. Don't make ignorant responses like that towards the courage of young soldiers fighting for their lives, their country, and for people just like you, who are safe in their homes but still complain and only have negative view points about everything. War is inevitable and it's been going on since the beginning of time. Deal with it or do something about it. Don't just make stupid, unintelligent remarks.

Whoa, even though I don't agree with OZ's thinking, I wouldn't call him a fuckin idiot, especially since he has the power to ban you. You may be pissed but take a few deep breathes and respond in a rational manner. You don't need to bash on someone to get your point across.

sorry. I have alot friends in the Marine Corps that have to go to Iraq and risk their lives. It must have just hit a nerve. my apologize to Oz.

yeah Oz, your a f***ing idiot. Don't make ignorant responses like that towards the courage of young soldiers fighting for their lives, their country, and for people just like you, who are safe in their homes but still complain and only have negative view points about everything. War is inevitable and it's been going on since the beginning of time. Deal with it or do something about it. Don't just make stupid, unintelligent remarks.


isnt oz from austrailia???? if so....our soilders arent really fighting for anything involving him. Unless he has family in the us or something. I dont think you will last long if you keep posting before you think.

You can disagree with the War but you should never put down the soldiers. Its not the soldiers who decided to raid Iraq, its the old politicians in D.C. who are safely away from danger that made the decision.

:iagree: My husband is in the military and even though neither of us support this war, don't go putting us down just because he's doing his duty that he swore to do when he joined.


As for the bashing... its easy to do when your not involved in any shape or form.

:iagree: Even though I'm not in the military, my husbands work affect my life and our families life a lot more than most people would ever realize.

I do not disagree with any facet of the military, they are doing what they are told. I disagree with what they have been told to do.

Can all you US tax payers seriously rationalise the insane amount of money being spent on this war with the continually flimsy bullshit excuses? Let alone the loss of life and injury to your fellow countrymen.

And Sniper, your fucking right I'm not involved in any form. And no, I personally would never join the military just in case I was sent to a conflict that I vehemently disagree with, such as this one.

Zaphod Beeblebrox - 'safely away from danger'? What danger?

I do not disagree with any facet of the military, they are doing what they are told. I disagree with what they have been told to do.

Can all you US tax payers seriously rationalise the insane amount of money being spent on this war with the continually flimsy bullshit excuses? Let alone the loss of life and injury to your fellow countrymen.

And Sniper, your fucking right I'm not involved in any form. And no, I personally would never join the military just in case I was sent to a conflict that I vehemently disagree with, such as this one.

Zaphod Beeblebrox - 'safely away from danger'? What danger?


huh? what do you mean what danger? The soldiers in that story are under gun fire. Nothing new in Iraq. But the politicians who decided to go to war are safely away from it in america.

isnt oz from austrailia???? if so....our soilders arent really fighting for anything involving him. Unless he has family in the us or something. I dont think you will last long if you keep posting before you think.


Spectacular ignorance shown here....Australia is one of the few countries that sent troops [against the wishes of its population]to support the US interference in Iraq.

Thread moved to the proper forum,OT is not the place for robust political comment.

War is inevitable and it's been going on since the beginning of time. Deal with it or do something about it. Don't just make stupid, unintelligent remarks.


How can someone make such a FOOL of themselves and then ask others not to make untintelligent remarks?

War is not inevitable.George Bush worked damn hard to get this one off the ground.The lies told to justify invading Iraq, and the lies being told about the extermination of the people of Fallujah will be remembered long after Bush is gone,and the last Marine has retreated Vietnam-style.

huh? what do you mean what danger? The soldiers in that story are under gun fire. Nothing new in Iraq. But the politicians who decided to go to war are safely away from it in america.
If everyone stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

If everyone stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.
No shit. To bad its not a perfect world. Iraq became a target because Bush, for whatever reason, deemed it a threat. If the terrorists never attacked the US, this invasion with Iraq would have never happened (unless our fearless leader [insert sarcasm] was hell bent on invading).

Like I was saying, don't blame the soldiers for being in Iraq. It wasn't their decision to invade, its was the US politicians.

War is not inevitable.George Bush worked damn hard to get this one off the ground.The lies told to justify invading Iraq, and the lies being told about the extermination of the people of Fallujah will be remembered long after Bush is gone,and the last Marine has retreated Vietnam-style.


Damn right. Bush will go down as one the worst US presidents in history.

Spectacular ignorance shown here....

Indeed!

How can people hold such firm opinions while similtaneously demonstrating zero grasp of any factual information? :rolleyes:
Why ever did I poke my nose into here? Looking for the exit...

If everyone stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

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Guess you never heard of missiles. Scud's come to mind right away.

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Guess you never heard of missiles. Scud's come to mind right away.

In order to pose a threat to America with a Scud, Saddam would have had to have sent it FedEx. :screwy:

If the terrorists never attacked the US, this invasion with Iraq would have never happened

Really? Are you sure?

Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush said “Fuck Saddam, We’re taking him out.” to three U.S. senators.

This was before we knew he caused 9/11...uh...I mean before we knew he was going to use WMD's against us...uh...I mean before we knew he had WMD's...uh...I mean before we went in there to liberate Iraq. Sorry about that, there were so many reasons to invade, I have a hard time remembering which one is the most current.

Really? Are you sure?

Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush said “Fuck Saddam, We’re taking him out.” to three U.S. senators.

This was before we knew he caused 9/11...uh...I mean before we knew he was going to use WMD's against us...uh...I mean before we knew he had WMD's...uh...I mean before we went in there to liberate Iraq. Sorry about that, there were so many reasons to invade, I have a hard time remembering which one is the most current.

i believe it was 09-11-2001, so i doubt bush was planning on taking saddam out as soon as he came to office. i don't agree with the whole war at all, but everyone is so quick to criticize him, but it's a hard job and you can't say that you would always make better decisions than him if you were in his situation.

I was skeptical about the war from the beginning, and didn't see it as being proper (especially overriding the UN, virtually making it useless), but I can somewhat see how he came to the decision to attack. The thing that irks me to no end is how he's gone on to genocide Iraqis after "finishing the war."

Nice story, youngvr4. Though I don't agree with the war, it's always impressive to see the strength and dedication of soldiers, both US and Iraqi. I know I sure couldn't do it.

If everyone stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

That would sure solve all immigration problems.













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That would sure solve all immigration problems.

You got that right. And would solve most other "problems" for the US too.

In order to pose a threat to America with a Scud, Saddam would have had to have sent it FedEx. :screwy:

As far as I know I didn't mention any countries but you implied the US and Iraq. A statement was made saying we would have no problems if we stayed in our own countries. My point was a war can be waged without leaving your own borders.

Really? Are you sure?

Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush said “Fuck Saddam, We’re taking him out.” to three U.S. senators.

Saddamn wasn't the only one Bush said he was taking down now was it?

Does the axis of evil refresh your memory?

The thing that irks me to no end is how he's gone on to genocide Iraqis after "finishing the war."

And that is your opnion which you have a right to post.


I see lots of whining and complaining going on by users from other countries. What would they do if Bush wasn't in office?

Speaking of whining the Green party and Cobb are trying to fight the election results in Ohio now. Not because they have a chance in hell of winning but only to try and depose Bush. They need to get a life and move on.

what about the popele in iraq trying to hurt thre own people and destroy there own buildings.

there are some iraqi's with rpg's on there shoulders and have killed there own people and tried to blow up there own buildings.

not sure if any of you heard it on the news but some iraqi's were taking over this holy building and were trying to destroy it.
the iraqi's that the military are training were not eligible to take these guys out yet, and stil the marines went in took the place by storm with only 1 casualty and took the guys out of the holy temple. and then told the press the trained iraqi's did it themselves. then the iraqi people were so happy they go tthe building back they surounded the building touching it and crying with joy that it wasn't destroyed.
i don't know......... even my cousin doesn't like bush and his decision on war but he has no choice.

my causin has pics of him and a coupe iraqi's throwing
up westside with there fingers. he also has a video of one of the iraqi's dancing to nelly while smoking a cig.

its pretty funny stuff, he said he gets a long with the guys. but of course there are always the bad guys, and those trying to defend there country

I see lots of whining and complaining going on by users from other countries. What would they do if Bush wasn't in office?


I'm not sure I understand this question. To what part of my daily routine are you referring by asking what I would be doing?

Genocide was an exagerration to emphasize my point, but either way, I dislike what's currently happening FAR more than I dislike what happened during the first few months of this conquest, and I don't like those first few months one bit...

If everyone stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

If everyone stayed in their own countries then there would be no Canada, Australia, America,....Need I go on?

Seriously though. I wouldn't mind a bit the U.S. staying in it's own country. Let's take every soldier deployed outside the country and bring them back home. We can make them very highly trained border guards. That would take care of any drugs comming into the U.S. It would also take care of the thousands of illegal immigrants sneaking in daily. We would have enough military in the U.S. that any terrorist stupid enough to try anything would never make it out alive. We could continue to build our military machine but keep it all here. With the money we save on overseas military bases we could invest it on new weapon advancements. We could be ready to rain down on any enemy in any part of the world in a moments notice with the full force of the military with minimal casualities on our side and have them back home in a week.

We should also stop waisting so much money on foreign aid to other countries. Let them take care of themselves. Better yet let someone else take care of them. We are a little tired of them always looking to us for a handout. We have enough homeless and unemployed here that need our money.


(Just a thought.)

:iagree:

Sounds good to me.

Saddamn wasn't the only one Bush said he was taking down now was it?

Does the axis of evil refresh your memory?
Yea, he also said that he was gonna take care of Osama, and we all know how well that went.

If everyone's military stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

Is a much better statement. Defend your own bit of turf and keep the fuck out of the rest of it.

DGB - Putting humanitarian aid and a war with 5 different justifications (because the first 4 weren't true) that has NOTHING to do with the US in the same light is low.

If your soldiers came into my country to 'save me from myself' or because they 'know what's best' and used force, I wouldn't hesitate to blow one of their heads off either.

If your soldiers came into my country to 'save me from myself' or because they 'know what's best' and used force, I wouldn't hesitate to blow one of their heads off either.

Your country has no political interest for the U.S. We don't care what you do to yourselves there. Unless there's a good amount of oil or anything else of financial value, the U.S. doesn't care about your country. Let's not forget what this war is REALLY about. If not for the oil, would anyone care what the f*ck happened in the Middle East?

Really? Are you sure?

Time magazine reported that in March 2002 – a full year before the invasion – Bush said “Fuck Saddam, We’re taking him out.” to three U.S. senators.

This was before we knew he caused 9/11...uh...I mean before we knew he was going to use WMD's against us...uh...I mean before we knew he had WMD's...uh...I mean before we went in there to liberate Iraq. Sorry about that, there were so many reasons to invade, I have a hard time remembering which one is the most current.


Yeah thanks for completely misquoted what I said.

"If the terrorists never attacked the US, this invasion with Iraq would have never happened (unless our fearless leader [insert sarcasm] was hell bent on invading)."

Your entire post no longer holds any merit. Thanks for playing!

Oh yeah, I'm sure everything we read in magizines and newspaper must all be true. Bushs' main reasoning for goin to war with Iraq was because he connected them with terrorists organizations and invading Iraq was part of his plans to further the War on Terrorism.

If everyone stayed in their own countries then there would be no Canada, Australia, America,....Need I go on?

Seriously though. I wouldn't mind a bit the U.S. staying in it's own country. Let's take every soldier deployed outside the country and bring them back home. We can make them very highly trained border guards. That would take care of any drugs comming into the U.S. It would also take care of the thousands of illegal immigrants sneaking in daily. We would have enough military in the U.S. that any terrorist stupid enough to try anything would never make it out alive. We could continue to build our military machine but keep it all here. With the money we save on overseas military bases we could invest it on new weapon advancements. We could be ready to rain down on any enemy in any part of the world in a moments notice with the full force of the military with minimal casualities on our side and have them back home in a week.




(Just a thought.)

In theory that may sound good but the reason we have so many oversea bases is because of positional advantage.

Your country has no political interest for the U.S. We don't care what you do to yourselves there. Unless there's a good amount of oil or anything else of financial value, the U.S. doesn't care about your country. Let's not forget what this war is REALLY about. If not for the oil, would anyone care what the f*ck happened in the Middle East?

Unfortunately I think you're likely right about the motive for the invasion. The whole world, America in particular (with what must surely be the world's largest SUV and truck population) has a very strong dependence on oil, much of which comes from the Middle East - I can't see why Bush wouldn't want to get his hands on it...

I think Oz was simply trying to say, that in the hypothetical situation that the US did invade Australia, then he would be fighting against them.

As far as I know I didn't mention any countries but you implied the US and Iraq.
I think it's a fair assumption in a thread about Iraq and America,If you believe that missiles are pertinent to the argumentfeel free to specify how.

If everyone's military stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

Is a much better statement. Defend your own bit of turf and keep the fuck out of the rest of it.



Now what army where the terrorists that crashed the planes into the Trade Towers?

Now I know the WTC and Iraq have nothing to do with each other but they are related. Without the WTC we wouldn't be in Iraq.

Being in Iraq we are defending our own turf! Like it or not Iraq belongs to the US. We defeated Iraq what we the US decide to do with Iraq is our business and no one else's business. If we want to give Iraq back we can, if we want to stay there we can and there is nothing you can say or do about it.

Yea, he also said that he was gonna take care of Osama, and we all know how well that went.

That book isn't done being written yet. The US is still there.

Your country has no political interest for the U.S. We don't care what you do to yourselves there. Unless there's a good amount of oil or anything else of financial value, the U.S. doesn't care about your country. Let's not forget what this war is REALLY about. If not for the oil, would anyone care what the f*ck happened in the Middle East?

We may never learn the true real reason on going to Iraq. Oil may be your opinion. You talk about financial value as the reason for the US to care about a certain country. Well what about Isreal?

I think it's a fair assumption in a thread about Iraq and America,If you believe that missiles are pertinent to the argumentfeel free to specify how.

We all know what happens when people ASSUME! Iraq had Scud missiles that could reach Isreal. Other countries have missles that can go farther. A statement was made that no danger can happen if we stay in our own countries. I disputed that statment showing how danger can come without leaving your own country. Danger will not stop just by not leaving your own boders.

Now what army where the terrorists that crashed the planes into the Trade Towers?

The army of "terrorists." An army doesn't have to belong to any given country.


Being in Iraq we are defending our own turf! Like it or not Iraq belongs to the US.

! :eek:

Since when! 2003!? I guess it's the 51st state then now, isn't it? Should I colour it blue on my map like the rest of the US?

From the CIA World Factbook:

"Formerly part of the Ottoman Empire, Iraq was occupied by Britain during the course of World War I; in 1920, it was declared a League of Nations mandate under UK administration. In stages over the next dozen years, Iraq attained its independence as a kingdom in 1932. A "republic" was proclaimed in 1958, but in actuality a series of military strongmen have ruled the country since then, the latest was SADDAM Husayn. Territorial disputes with Iran led to an inconclusive and costly eight-year war (1980-88). In August 1990, Iraq seized Kuwait, but was expelled by US-led, UN coalition forces during the Gulf War of January-February 1991. Following Kuwait's liberation, the UN Security Council (UNSC) required Iraq to scrap all weapons of mass destruction and long-range missiles and to allow UN verification inspections. Continued Iraqi noncompliance with UNSC resolutions over a period of 12 years resulted in the US-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003 and the ouster of the SADDAM Husayn regime. Coalition forces remain in Iraq, helping to restore degraded infrastructure and facilitating the establishment of a freely elected government. The Coalition Provisional Authority transferred sovereignty to the Interim Government on 28 June 2004."

I would say Iraq belongs to the Iraqis. However, the closest I can come to supporting your argument is that Iraq belonged to Iraqis since 1932, at least, then fell to the US in 2003, and was returned to the Iraqis in 2004.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not seeing the Iraqi people putting Stars and Stripes bumper stickers on their cars (which, incidentally, Fallujans aren't even allowed to have...) on a regular basis.

quick story

my cousin and his crew trained 200 iraqi's to be police

the day of there graduation the marines gave them all ak47's and the next day they were to come in to work
67 out of the 200 came to work the next day

quick story

my cousin and his crew trained 200 iraqi's to be police

the day of there graduation the marines gave them all ak47's and the next day they were to come in to work
67 out of the 200 came to work the next day

:uhoh:

Not good.

If everyone's military stayed in their own fucking countries there would be no danger.

Did I kind of cover that when I said to bring all our military back to the US and close all the overseas bases?





DGB - Putting humanitarian aid and a war with 5 different justifications (because the first 4 weren't true) that has NOTHING to do with the US in the same light is low.

I would comment on this statement but to be honest..I have no idea what it means. Something about humanitarian aid and war and low lights.




If your soldiers came into my country to 'save me from myself' or because they 'know what's best' and used force, I wouldn't hesitate to blow one of their heads off either.

Unfortunatly I don't have any soldiers. But if I did I would be more tham happy to send them over to you so you could try and blow their heads off. :rolleyes:

In theory that may sound good but the reason we have so many oversea bases is because of positional advantage.

But, if we took all the money we saved on those overseas bases and all the money we would save by withdrawing most of our humanitarian aid to other countries then we would have enough to build more high tech weapons. This would make enemies location irrelevant.

depending on how long it takes us to make those high-tech weapons your talking about, and also depending on what kind of hightech weapons your talking about

Now what army where the terrorists that crashed the planes into the Trade Towers?

Now I know the WTC and Iraq have nothing to do with each other but they are related. Without the WTC we wouldn't be in Iraq.

Being in Iraq we are defending our own turf! Like it or not Iraq belongs to the US. We defeated Iraq what we the US decide to do with Iraq is our business and no one else's business. If we want to give Iraq back we can, if we want to stay there we can and there is nothing you can say or do about it.
You've got to be kidding.

You've got to be kidding.

Which part?

Everything except the first line.

depending on how long it takes us to make those high-tech weapons your talking about, and also depending on what kind of hightech weapons your talking about


Actually I have just been trying to be a smart*ss on this thread. I didn't think others would take me seriously about withdrawing aid from others or withdrawing all our troops. I was just seeing if I could get a rise out of some who are always complaining about our involvment in the rest of the world.
I got what I thought I would from certain individuals. My work here is done. I'm satisfied.:smile:

Later

Everything except the first line.

Yes I was! We need alittle humor every now and then. The topics are getting alittle too heated lately. I have more off the wall stuff I could of posted but I didn't want to over heat Tarnaki.

The truth is we can't change what happened. We can't do one thing about it. Calling each other names will not help and only inflame people.

Has anyone heard of "silent weapons" they are sound waves that can shatter thick steel from 1 mile away. We also have biological weapons. why doesn't the military use any of these?