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Ricochet
12-06-2004, 02:55 PM
Warning, if you own one you're going to be a little upset after watching this (http://www.radford.edu/~jseemuell/neons.wmv) :D

Neutrino
12-06-2004, 03:12 PM
Spare us :rolleyes:

mospeed1
12-06-2004, 03:17 PM
nice video
getting beat by a minivan :grinyes:

Neutrino
12-06-2004, 03:25 PM
nice video
getting beat by a minivan :grinyes:


yes take a face value every video posted on the internet.


That van is driven by Dempsey a known mopar guy that i happen to know. FYI his van is very very fast running another dodge turbo engine. The race track is close to me (rocky Mountain Raceway) Also I have the entire video of that race and the srt4 comes back for the win.

I've asked him about the race and the srt4 was driven by one of his friends and it just got a really bad start.


also that srt4 with a blown engine was modded to an extreme but on astock bottom end. if you want to know how modded he was consider this: his engine blew at about 1/3 of the track so just costing the rest of the way it pulled a 12.9 in the quarter mile. Yes i have the rest of that video too.


But why care about facts when we can just watch edited BS.

Ricochet
12-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Spare us :rolleyes:
I know most of the clips are edited, I didn't make it... I just thought I'd be the one to share it first before somebody else does.

pre98zetec
12-06-2004, 03:49 PM
That 03 cobra bit was priceless.

lordvektra
12-06-2004, 03:52 PM
I don’t believe half that video as much as I hate getting beat by a neon those srt-4's are fast SOBs

-Josh-
12-06-2004, 03:53 PM
That video was a waste of 2 1/2 minutes of my life.... It was the dumbest insult to any car, that i've ever seen.

blindside.AMG
12-06-2004, 04:08 PM
That video was a waste of 2 1/2 minutes of my life.... It was the dumbest insult to any car, that i've ever seen.

:1:

Just some jealous Ford Mustang driver's. Then again, if I was a Ford fan I'd be jealous of Dodge too.

pre98zetec
12-06-2004, 04:11 PM
You cant tell me that 03 cobra bit was edited.

Neutrino
12-06-2004, 06:42 PM
That video was a waste of 2 1/2 minutes of my life.... It was the dumbest insult to any car, that i've ever seen.


agreed I really don't see why people have to insult cars.

crayzayjay
12-06-2004, 07:39 PM
Download isnt working. Not a bad thing judging by these posts ^^

Hobbes
12-06-2004, 11:34 PM
Download isnt working.

Same here. But I would like to see it.

-Davo
12-07-2004, 01:20 AM
linky no workie

imtheoneandonlyD
12-07-2004, 04:51 AM
yeah, it worked for me last night, but i didnt have time and cancelled it. Now it wont work. I guess ill have to wait, or never see it.

lordvektra
12-07-2004, 08:36 AM
You cant tell me that 03 cobra bit was edited.

not edited, just a bad driver maybe.

goat_launcher
12-07-2004, 10:07 AM
That video was a waste of 2 1/2 minutes of my life.... It was the dumbest insult to any car, that i've ever seen.

American sport compacts = still an oxymoron.

pre98zetec
12-07-2004, 05:03 PM
not edited, just a bad driver maybe.are you serious? :eek7:

ThatRoundHeadedKid
12-07-2004, 10:29 PM
Page Cannot Be Displayed......<<<that's what I got.

s-15racer
12-09-2004, 10:24 AM
Same here

Janet Reno
12-09-2004, 07:44 PM
Here's a quick synopsis so no one else has to watch it.

Typical tough guy screaming music trying to make things seem like Mustang v8's are really intense or something.... couple races that prove nothing.... then some words on the screen flash to the likes of "yeah right, like those junky neon's can really beat a V8!"


Moral of the story, buy a BMW and you won't have to click on a thread like this again!

RedLightning
12-09-2004, 07:48 PM
American sport compacts = still an oxymoron.


actually "sport compact" itself is an oxymoron.

Ricochet
12-09-2004, 07:59 PM
actually "sport compact" itself is an oxymoron.
So is sport utility..

Neutrino
12-09-2004, 08:07 PM
So is sport utility..


good comeback ricochet :lol:

Ace$nyper
12-09-2004, 09:33 PM
wow ppl getting hyped over this why?

i found it funny.

Hobbes
12-09-2004, 09:39 PM
Finally loaded for me. Very funny. :lol:

thrasher
12-09-2004, 10:53 PM
I hate neons just as much as the next guy. But that was just pathetic

pre98zetec
12-09-2004, 11:36 PM
Moral of the story, buy a BMW and you won't have to click on a thread like this again!You wouldn't have time to read this, you'd be at the shop getting it repaired all the time :lol2:

blindside.AMG
12-10-2004, 06:57 AM
You wouldn't have time to read this, you'd be at the shop getting it repaired all the time :lol2:

Damn, you beat me to it!!!! At least SOME people know German cars are unreliable, over-priced, hunks of shit!!!!

Jimster
12-10-2004, 07:23 AM
Damn, you beat me to it!!!! At least SOME people know German cars are unreliable, over-priced, hunks of shit!!!!
No, Mercs are unreliable overpriced hunks of shit.


You're a Mercedes technician and that instantly gives weight to what you say about Mercedes, but what about BMW, how much experiecnce do you have with them?


We've had this discussion before, I've yet to see any evidence that BMW's quality control is anywhere lower than above the industry average at any of BMW's assembly facilities (South Carolina, South Africa, Munich, Regensburg and Dingolfing), owenership surveys are more or less reinforcing what I just said (I've yet to find one with BMW below the Industry average).


Though I think the best testament to BMW's reliability record is the Rover 75. The 600 and 800 models before it were basically Hondas with dodgy K or T series engines (and the 800 especially had a long list of problems). BMW donated thier engineering expertise to the 75 and all of a sudden in 2001 (it's first year in the JD Power survey of Britain), it found itself in the number 5 spot.

Also worth noting is that the BMW 3 series is the car that most UK motoring surveys get the most opinions about (Even more than cars like the Ford Focus and Vauxhall Corsa)


Funny that.

blindside.AMG
12-10-2004, 07:46 AM
No, Mercs are unreliable overpriced hunks of shit.


You're a Mercedes technician and that instantly gives weight to what you say about Mercedes, but what about BMW, how much experiecnce do you have with them?


We've had this discussion before, I've yet to see any evidence that BMW's quality control is anywhere lower than above the industry average at any of BMW's assembly facilities (South Carolina, South Africa, Munich, Regensburg and Dingolfing), owenership surveys are more or less reinforcing what I just said (I've yet to find one with BMW below the Industry average).


Though I think the best testament to BMW's reliability record is the Rover 75. The 600 and 800 models before it were basically Hondas with dodgy K or T series engines (and the 800 especially had a long list of problems). BMW donated thier engineering expertise to the 75 and all of a sudden in 2001 (it's first year in the JD Power survey of Britain), it found itself in the number 5 spot.

Also worth noting is that the BMW 3 series is the car that most UK motoring surveys get the most opinions about (Even more than cars like the Ford Focus and Vauxhall Corsa)


Funny that.

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1400331,00.html

In it’s latest survey released in August, the UK-based consumer magazine Which? gave VW bad marks, putting it in the lowest “poor” category, a position it has now held for two years. Mercedes-Benz, which used to be in the top “best” category has steadily slipped two notches into the “average” category. Audi, once judged to be “good,” is now considered “poor,” and BMW has gone from “good” to “poor.”

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=10878

The ratings were as follows:
Excellent: Honda, Hyundai, Lexus, Mazda, Suzuki and Toyota
Good: Daihatsu, Ford, Nissan and Subaru
Average: Alfa Romeo, Jaguar, Jeep, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Mitsubishi. Porsche, Proton, Seat, Skoda and Volvo
Poor: Audi, BMW, Chrysler, Citroen, Daewoo, Fiat, Land Rover, Peugeot, Renault, Rover, Saab, Vauxhall and Volkswagen.

http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=20810

Audi, BMW and Volkswagen were all rated "poor" for reliability in the study by the Consumers' Association, while cars from Japanese and Korean manufacturers scored the highest with drivers.

Jimster
12-10-2004, 08:03 AM
On that last one the fact that they put Alfa Romeo in "Average" instead of "downright ghastly" kind of blows the credibility out of the water. I had 2 156's and lost count of the times that the electrics played up on me (Don't even get me started on the poor fools who don't reguarly give the Twinspark engines the oil changes they require).

Then there's Skoda in the same catagorey, ummm.... Aside from having about the best customer care in the entire industry, the Octavia has consistently topped the JD Power survey, as well as the Auto Express and BBC motoring surveys for almost a decade and the Fabia has done the same for the last few years.


Add to that, the sample size is too small. (44 E Classes yet about 8000 are sold a year in the UK).


Still thanks for your reply all the more.

blindside.AMG
12-10-2004, 08:42 AM
On that last one the fact that they put Alfa Romeo in "Average" instead of "downright ghastly" kind of blows the credibility out of the water. I had 2 156's and lost count of the times that the electrics played up on me (Don't even get me started on the poor fools who don't reguarly give the Twinspark engines the oil changes they require).

Then there's Skoda in the same catagorey, ummm.... Aside from having about the best customer care in the entire industry, the Octavia has consistently topped the JD Power survey, as well as the Auto Express and BBC motoring surveys for almost a decade and the Fabia has done the same for the last few years.


Add to that, the sample size is too small. (44 E Classes yet about 8000 are sold a year in the UK).


Still thanks for your reply all the more.

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=11346

Jimster, you know as much as I do that German cars are slipping in the reliable department. Yes, the BMW 3-series is a good, reliable, vehicle but that doesn't go for the rest of the BMW line-up. The new 5 & 7 series are NOT reliable cars as far as I've read. And you're right, I don't have any experience with BMW's with the exception of my friends' parents 7-series which is falling apart as we speak. I guess we're both going to have to wait until these new german engineers get their hands on a new 3-series to make it unreliable.

Jimster
12-10-2004, 09:20 AM
Yes, I'll agree that the number of electrical glitches on the new 5 and 7 series' is disturbing (and rather unsurprising considering the complexity of the cars). I'm rather interested to see how both the X3 and 1 series will fare, to be quite honest.

Though in all fairness, it's not the German workforce that's fully to blame, it's globalisation. The worst German cars as far as reliablility goes are usually not built in Germany, instead they are built in developing markets, these include: the Audi TT (Hungary), Volkswagen's PQ34 (Beetle, Golf, Jetta) models for the North American market(Mexico) and VW Touareg (Slovenia IIRC), Mercedes Benz M Class (Alabahma).


In all honesty though, the rise of the Japanese in Europe is probably going to be motivation enough for companies like VW and BMW to stop slacking off and pay full attention. If not then they'll end up like Fiat SpA (In debt and forced to actually improve quality or face extinction)

kornflakes28546
12-10-2004, 12:31 PM
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1400331,00.html

In it’s latest survey released in August, the UK-based consumer magazine Which? gave VW bad marks, putting it in the lowest “poor” category, a position it has now held for two years. Mercedes-Benz, which used to be in the top “best” category has steadily slipped two notches into the “average” category. Audi, once judged to be “good,” is now considered “poor,” and BMW has gone from “good” to “poor.”

http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-story.jsp?news_id=10878

The ratings were as follows:
Excellent: Honda, Hyundai, Lexus, Mazda, Suzuki and Toyota
Good: Daihatsu, Ford, Nissan and Subaru
Average: Alfa Romeo, Jaguar, Jeep, Kia, Mercedes-Benz, MG, Mitsubishi. Porsche, Proton, Seat, Skoda and Volvo
Poor: Audi, BMW, Chrysler, Citroen, Daewoo, Fiat, Land Rover, Peugeot, Renault, Rover, Saab, Vauxhall and Volkswagen.

http://www.aiada.org/article.asp?id=20810

Audi, BMW and Volkswagen were all rated "poor" for reliability in the study by the Consumers' Association, while cars from Japanese and Korean manufacturers scored the highest with drivers.

they ranked below Kia?? all i can say is... WOW

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