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ZX3 vs. SVT


dedrater
12-05-2004, 01:20 PM
What is the difference in these cars. How does the svt have more power than the zx3. are the engines the same in the cars. will parts meant for a zx3 fit or work on an svt

Mustangman25
12-05-2004, 05:39 PM
SVT has a 170hp Zetec motor, while the ZX3's Zetec has 130hp. Most of the differences in the motors are internal, though the SVT has a different intake setup. The SVT handles better, though a stock ZX3 handles pretty damn well stock. The SVT is around 1" lower, with different spring rates, etc. The rest of the differences are mainly cosmetic; SVT front and rear bumper, as well as side skirts, and a Euro spec interior with some nicer seats. The SVT also comes with a six speed, where the ZX3 can only get a 5 speed or an auto. Some parts will work on the SVT that will work on the ZX3, but many will not. It's definetly easier to find parts for and upgrade a ZX3, but I have seen some very fast SVT's with turbo's etc. I know that Jackson makes a supercharger kit as well, but I'm pretty sure that it will only work on the ZX3 as the SVT has a different intake setup.

03Focus_Guy
12-05-2004, 08:54 PM
the SVT comes stock with a supercharger, the SVT has a 6 speed allowing you to get the most out of the engineit also has somewhat of a bodykit and special SVT rims...and im done b/c mustangman pretty much said it all except he didnt say it had a stock supercharger

beyondloadedSE
12-05-2004, 09:58 PM
the SVT comes stock with a supercharger

ummm no! :screwy:

pre98zetec
12-07-2004, 05:19 PM
the SVT comes stock with a supercharger, the SVT has a 6 speed allowing you to get the most out of the engineit also has somewhat of a bodykit and special SVT rims...and im done b/c mustangman pretty much said it all except he didnt say it had a stock superchargerand you own a SVT and you said this? :wtf:

focusfreak
12-07-2004, 08:01 PM
ok, the SVT doesn't come stock with a supercharger (ford should have made it come stock with a turbo charger and all wheel drive though) and you could convert a ZX3 to an SVT with what is offered through ford's parts catalog.

focusfreak
12-07-2004, 08:02 PM
oh yeah, the SVT may be getting 170hp to the flywheel, but not to the tires. It gets around 140 to 145 to the tires.

beyondloadedSE
12-07-2004, 09:22 PM
oh yeah, the SVT may be getting 170hp to the flywheel, but not to the tires. It gets around 140 to 145 to the tires.

nobody said it was putting down 170 whp.

focusfreak
12-08-2004, 09:23 PM
I know, I was just stating a fact.

zx2srdotnet
12-08-2004, 09:50 PM
well actually a svt with the updated pcm should be more in the 148-152 range

03Focus_Guy
12-10-2004, 03:09 PM
ok well you know what yes i do own a SVT and it has a supercharger in it and the salesmen said it was stock and i never looked at any others under the hood so you know what tell him he doesnt know what hes talking about not me

zx2srdotnet
12-10-2004, 03:20 PM
Still you OWN the car, the fact that you STILL thought a SC was stock shows that your are absolutley stupid about what you own and how it works. That mixed with the fact your to dumb to research a car before you buy it shows that your one of those peole that should drive a Yugo, cuz either way you know NOTHING about the car except that the emblem says.

Hell even my mom did a lot of research on her car b4 she bought it, and shes in no way a car person.

03Focus_Guy
12-10-2004, 03:26 PM
i thought i just said i havnt done any reasrech on them either so shut your mouth...mainly cuz i dont plan on having this car for longer than a few months more so i dont wanna mod it right now...so go be happy with your zx2 and do yourself a favor and stop making a fool of yourself

Mustangman25
12-10-2004, 04:01 PM
How did ZX2 make a fool of himself? Seriously though, why would you buy a car without researching anything at all?

zx2srdotnet
12-10-2004, 04:36 PM
your the idiot that doesnt know what he drives

pre98zetec
12-10-2004, 06:10 PM
lmao "I haven't done research so shut your mouth" Do you hear a loud whine when you take off? no. Is their a pulley, directly to the left of the intake (actually there is, the altenator). That car would be alot quicker then that if it came with a Factory Supercharger.

zx2srdotnet
12-10-2004, 11:36 PM
im just assuming teh guy knows what a SC looks like and does have on(jackson racing is ford endorced)

03Focus_Guy
12-11-2004, 02:35 PM
i know exactly what i drive...and mustangman i already answered your question about not doing any research on it...i dont plan on having it for a long time and i havnt had problems with it and im not going to mod it much this was just a temporary car

03Focus_Guy
12-11-2004, 02:39 PM
um yes i do hear a whine retard....i know what a SC looks like and i know what it does so quit bashing on shit you know nothing about...i can gladly get you pics for you to prove it if you insist on keeping this stupid thread going

pre98zetec
12-12-2004, 02:25 PM
lets see then.

GO17ZILLA
12-12-2004, 09:16 PM
i own the new ford focus 2.3 liter zx3 duratec model, i like this better than the SVT only because it is a lot cheaper and there are more parts available for the ZX3. The SVT like focusfreak said only has 145 whp with its 170bhp, the 2.3 liter zx3 stock has 150 bhp, but after my intake and exhaust i am well over 140 at the wheels. the gains on the zetec and the duratec are a helluva lot better than the SVT and it costs too damn much!

pre98zetec
12-12-2004, 10:48 PM
the gains on the zetec and the duratec are a helluva lot better than the SVT and it costs too damn much!the svt is a zetec too :screwy:

GO17ZILLA
12-12-2004, 10:53 PM
yeah but have u looked at gains from the zetec in a svt and the gains in a zetec? the flex pipe back exhaust and the AEM intake in the zx3 produces more hp then in the SVT zetec, wierd stuff, u would think the gains in the higher hp zetec would be better. for example, i seen the dyno for an aem intake for the zx3 zetec and it gained an average of 8-14 hp and for the svt it was like half, weird stuff

GO17ZILLA
12-12-2004, 10:56 PM
they dont make too many engine components for the SVT, none really that i have found, they are making a bunch for the Duratec and they have a ton for the ZX3 Zetec

beyondloadedSE
12-13-2004, 10:49 AM
yeah but have u looked at gains from the zetec in a svt and the gains in a zetec? the flex pipe back exhaust and the AEM intake in the zx3 produces more hp then in the SVT zetec, wierd stuff, u would think the gains in the higher hp zetec would be better. for example, i seen the dyno for an aem intake for the zx3 zetec and it gained an average of 8-14 hp and for the svt it was like half, weird stuff

makes sense. since the svt model has a more free flowing intake to begin with, it only makes sense that it would gain less than the stock zx3 with the restrictive intake.

zx2srdotnet
12-13-2004, 12:03 PM
you arn not getting 8-14whp from a intake lol 2-4whp maybe lol and thats kind of pushing it.

svtF=150whp stock
ZX3=107whp stock
2.3= 129whp

GO17ZILLA
12-15-2004, 02:15 AM
nahh man, im runnin 145 hp at wheels with my intake and my catback on my 2.3 liter

GO17ZILLA
12-15-2004, 02:16 AM
theve got a crap load of dynos for 2.3 liter intakes, all produce 8 plus hp at wheels, check out focus sport or marcy motor sport, u will see

zx2srdotnet
12-15-2004, 02:03 PM
i got those stock number from Roush

GO17ZILLA
12-16-2004, 03:10 AM
yo ZX2, is ur escort fast man? Do any cool mods to it?

zx2srdotnet
12-16-2004, 09:39 AM
just cut airbox,FR wires and K&N filter, but if you know what an S/R is you know I'm already on par with a SVT. :)

fordesigner
12-16-2004, 10:35 AM
Much of the testing for the 2.3 was done by a local place called Thompson Engineering. They showed great gains are to be had with just opening up the restrictive intake and exhaust.
The head will out flow a Zetec and can be ported past what the SVT can flow. Even if the SVT Zetec head was ported too.

The 2.3 is a really good engine.

ZX2000
12-20-2004, 06:04 AM
yay!!! fact time.

#1 fyi, the 2.0L zx3, SVTF, and ZX2 all share the same block... i know, exciting huh... that means internals of the block are able to be transfered from one to the other. alot of why the motors are different is because of the heads. zx3 does not have VCT, SVT has VCT on the intake side and on the ZX2 the VCT is on the exhaust side. SVT uses VCT for power and torque (thus the 170 hp rating) ZX2 uses it for fuel economy and emissions and well, like i said zx3 does not have it. this is also why there is trouble bolting up manifolds and headers from one to the other, cuz all three heads are diff.

#2 no fucking way you're getting 8-14 whp from an intake. sorry but in order to believe this... id have to see it w/ my own eyes. and id be willing to bet that the stock ZX2 intake and airbox are more restrictive than the SVTF. ive found that w/a ported stock intake manifold, ported stock tb, and custom intake... i maybe hit a good 12-15 whp gain... w/ all three combined. keep in mind i have s/r pcm too and that will accomodate those mods and make em stronger. thus the 12-15 whp. so again, a peice of tubing between filter and tb giving you 8-14 whp = BS.

#3 count me as one of the many zx2's that could smoke an SVTF.

matt

nose-gobblin
12-20-2004, 08:02 PM
ok, well. another question can you fit a svt man trans into a sedan?

zx2srdotnet
12-20-2004, 10:25 PM
dont see why not, it should be the same as i you are putting it in a zx3 or 5, but unless you put the motor in its pointless. The gearing in all wrong for the non-svt zetec

darolh
12-21-2004, 12:05 PM
What is the difference in these cars. How does the svt have more power than the zx3. are the engines the same in the cars. will parts meant for a zx3 fit or work on an svt

Differences: Engine, tranny, suspension, bodywork, brakes, wheels/tires, interior

I still can't find that damn supercharger under my hood however.

zx2srdotnet
12-21-2004, 04:22 PM
haha (points at alt.) but that turbo is HUGE!

ZX2000
12-28-2004, 08:07 AM
LMFAO!!!

so where are these pictures? i wanna see a supercharger on a stock svt... maybe we scared him away cuz he's a liar?

matt

mazdaspeed_MX6
01-04-2005, 10:32 PM
WOW the guy who thought a supercharger was stock......is a moron and does not deserve to have a focus svt with a supercharger
ive been lookin to sell my mx6 and buy a focus svt they are pretty cool

zx2srdotnet
01-04-2005, 11:47 PM
i'd save money and go with a KLZE swap and a suspention upgrade, be a lot cheaper and be able to blow the SVT away.

focusfreak
01-31-2005, 12:43 PM
don't hate on him guys, it just sounds like he was lied to by the dealership so they could get more money out of him. Maybe he doesn't know much about cars, thats why we should give him constructive criticism, not destructive.

vintweed
02-03-2005, 12:30 AM
the svt doesn't come stock with a supercharger...

ZX2000
02-05-2005, 08:37 AM
the svt doesn't come stock with a supercharger...
ding ding ding... we have a winner!!! :grinno:

focusfreak
02-23-2005, 12:21 PM
Lol

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