240sx buyer

what up guyz, im 15 and im gettin my car and license soon and mayb even in that order but i love the 240sx s-14, that what i want and thats what imj probably going to be gettin and so far what ive learned about them has been almost all good except for the few exceptions of course. My question is, is the sr20det engine swap needed right away?because doesnt the s-14 already come with a pretty nice engine and also what kind of availability am i lookin at for the engine and cost, and most importantly performance werthy(is it?)i read about it and it comes with 220whp i believe and im lookin at boosting it to sumwhere in the 300's+.Is that even going to b possible with this engine and if so how and how much becuz im only 15 and my budget isnt exactly whatu would call incredible but its not horrible either by any means. Also what suspension modz are there for the 240? becuz i kno its a drifter but can it b made to run in the low 12'z high 11'z?(for me anyway on a low-medium budget?)is the sr20det a powerplant of an engine?? I would also like to make this a real nice car and not a typical everyday too big rimmed shyty riced civic for sure.Im looking for sum unique in my ride so if i could get sum more info on this car it would b appreciated a bunch thnks guyz(1997-98 black 5 spd is the goal car)

your only 15 and you want a 300hp car?? goodluck! The ka24de is the engine that it has in it which is a fine engine IMO, but i would rather turbo that than get a sr20det and swap it. Are you a mechanic or is your dad? or anyone you know that will do the swap for you? It takes alot of work and is going to be pretty pricey. I would try to find the car you are looking for then put togethor a turbo kit, but for only being 15 you sound kinda young to be drving turbo for your first car....

Goodluck with everything and hope it all works out...

thats a damn nice dream.. hate to tell you but this is what reality is:

the car itself when you buy it, unless you find one without a motor, is gonna be atleast $5000
the sr20det is about $5000
insurance is probably gonna be $3000 per year
gas is a bitch
if you want a life then you won't have any money left to support that..

so unless you have $15000 to spend in the next few months then look for a 95-96 with high mileage or even get an s13.. i have an s13 (93 240SX) and its amazing.. including insurance, i've spent about $10000 in the past 4 months, before mods and gas.. cars are expensive, they take a lot more than people think

try doing some reading on these cars before you buy them too.. just so you understand what kind of machine you're purchasing.. i know its long but its always interesting when it comes to these cars

lets drop the fact that he wants the new engine and wants to turbo it! The fact that hes going to have an 97-98 S14 at the age of like 15 3/4 possibly is freaking awesome enough!

true, i was merely noting the idea in entirety.. i'd be surprised if he ended up with nothing more than a half decent s13 with minor bolt ons in the first year

and on a low/medium budget high 11's/12's will take a long time to achieve...like d-bo said...plan on spending some $$ bucks to even get you into the low 13's...(haha traction problems for me anyways)...but then again it is a nice dream...if you got the money go for it...work hard get what you want...

tthanks guyz man you guyz are way kewler then sum people in forums you guys dont burn people up liek shty and thats kewl see im not planning on getting my car in only a few months its guna b a few year projec haha i forgot to mention that sorry and i checked the price on a sr20det and i can get a used one with like 20k to 45k miles on them and install for about 1k(my uncle knows a guy)yea sorry forgot to say my 300+hp will take a few years ahaha i bet you guyz wer like damn he is either rich or stupid ahahah tanks for the info but im still looking for suspension mods for a 240 i mean is there or am i just looking for sumthign that doesnt exist

We're all out of put-downs because there's so many losers who come in, you're lucky you caught us before we could think of new stuff to insult you with. ;)

Anyways, if you want a drag car, most people say turbo the KA, for suspension mods, everything is available, you can buy shocks and springs seperatly, or full coilovers, you can have a street, drag, drift, auto-x setup, anything you want, these are pretty versatile cars.

lol man loser? that wouldnt be me-but thanks for the sumwhat limited info but it all helps and damn lighten ^

Logik is just like that redneck grew up in a bad family kid...hes not a bad person jsut has an opinion and hes just logik...not calling you a redneck just comparing you to one :D

alright? well this might sound dumb but whats the ka? everyone always says turbo the ka im sorry but id otn kno what that is any one car to elaberate?ty

It's an engine code. I'll list the comon 240SX engines.



These came with the car:

KA24E: 4 cylinder, 2.4 liter, single overhead cam engine, came in 1989-1990 models. 130hp

KA24DE: 4 cylinder, 2.4 liter, dual overhead cam engine, came in 1991-1998 models. 155hp



These can be swapped in:

CA18DE: 4 cylinder, 1.8 liter, dual overhead cam, came in early JDM(japanese domestic market) Silvia and 180SX. 130hp

CA18DET: Same as above, but with a turbocharger. 170hp

SR20DE: 4 cylinder, 2 liter, dual overhead cam, came in all Silvia and 180SX models after 1991 or so. 160hp

SR20DET: Same as above, but with a turbocharger. S13: 200hp S14: 215hp S15: 250hp

RB20DE: Straight 6 cylinder, 2 liter, DOHC, came in R32 Skyline GTS models. 155hp

RB20DET: Same as above, but with turbo, came in R32 GTS-T models. 215hp

RB25DE: Straight 6 cylinder, 2.5 liter, DOHC, came in R32 GTS25, R33 and R34 GTS models. 190hp

RB25DET: Same as above, but with a turbo, came in GTS-T models. 250hp

RB26DETT: Straight 6 cylinder, 2.6 liter, DOHC, twin-turbo, came in R32, R33 and R34 Skylines GT-R models. (Mated to RB25DET tranny for install in 240SX) Over 300hp. 281hp before removal of limiting shit.



Oh and I typed this all out, unlike some fake-fans (I won'T name anyone) who copy-pasted from other sites. lol

you have to be madman mechanic to get the rb26 in the 240 tho :eek7: I would stick towards the turboing the KA24DE, swapping in a sr20det, or maybe swapping in the CA18DET or RB20DET... These will all take lots of money to do...Put togethor a turbo kit like some of us are doing on here (dont be scared to ask questions) and start out running it at like 5psi and as you get older and learn more bumb up the boost a little bit...

Try doing intake, exhaust, clutch, lsd, and maybe cooling mods first. This will allow you to give yourself a test without risking your engine or anything else. Most of this stuff is pretty easy. Besides that, it is all useful if you decide to turbo. I have been obsessed with my 240 for about a year and three months. I can honestly say I am glad I waited to put my turbo kit on. I would have blown some shit up if I would have tried to put it on six months ago. Just go look at some of my posts :rolleyes:

oh shyt thnks guys man you guys kno yur shyt for sure but you all wer amateurs at one point to thnks fer the help guyz so i go with a turbo bolt on on my engine for the 240 later after i upgrade clutches etch hoses ecu pulleys intake and stuff like that then i saive up for a nice turbo or mayb possibly a swap if really needed? i think i got it...what do you guys think of the 180sx?i think its pretty sweet or even the s-13, but the s-14 with the s-15 headlight conversion is what i plan on doing on the s-14 if thats the model i get cuz i like the headlights but the s-15's are more expensive arent they? and what do you guyz recomend for cool air intake like ice man aem or uther? also im thinkin bout getttin a kik ass drift body kit would b sweet too you kno? ahha alright im done for now but ill ask you guyz sum more ?'s when i get into more detail thnks for what you have given so far:)

Bodykits are kind of taboo around here, anyways, S15 aren't more expensive, they are impossible to get, they are only sold in RHD countries. (Japan, England, New Zealand, etc.)

Over here, we don't have S13s per-se (sp?), we have the coupe with the pop-up lights, you will need to do a S13 front end conversion to get the look of the S13, for the 180SX, if you want a Type X you will need a new front bumper and turn signals and new rear lights. S14 with S15 headlights are over played, but if you like them that's cool. You will learn, yound grasshopper, that smashing a set of Zenki headlights is better then S15 headlights..... ;)

the stock SR20DET's comes with around 200 crank hp or ( 160whp ) for the red tops.

and the S14 black tops SR20DET's comes with 220crank hp which should be around 180whp

and the S15 Black top SR20DET's comes with 250crank hp or 210whp.

the price ranges from 2000 bucks for a S13 SR to 5000 bucks for a S15 SR.

and there are tons of suspension for the S chassis. remember in japan Nissan is the performance brand and honda is the econo boxes that hardly any races in. if you look at most japanese videos and mag's Nissans run the show. so there are plenty of suspension parts i'll go on a nd list some of the brands

Tein, Cusco, Suspension techniques, KYB, Tokicos, JIC Magic, Eibach, H and R, Whiteline.

these are just a few of the companys that makes suspension components for the S chassis off the top of my head. of course the most hardcore brands would the Cusco, Tein, and JIC magic since those are hardcore japanese drift or circuit racing style suspension that is fully adjustable from dampening rate to ride height. to upper front camber adjustments.

then you have Whiteline Sway bars, or Suspension Technique sway bars.

plenty and i mean plenty of stuff can go into a 240sx.

don't forget junk yard donner parts

i'm running on a set of 300ZX Twin turbo 4 piston brake caliper and 11 inch rotors on my S14. i'm also running on a 300ZX brake master cylinder

i'm also running on a 90 sentra dual electric fan conversion setup

you can also swap in Infiniti Q45 dual piston calipers on the 240.

not to mention the Infiniti J30 or the non turbo 300ZX limited slip differential

Nice shyt, i was looking at a couple of my mags last night and every 240sx and 180sx all and i mean all of them had the sr20dets in some form it was outa control. but im looking for an engine in the 200hp range to begin. what kind of whp can i put on a ka? could i be gettin 260+whp, and if i turbo the ka will it make my ride "quick"?What other mid mods are there for the stock ka? if i turbo its not guna b at first so says the uther guyz and im guna stick with that info so i wana kno what else i can put on there besides air intakes forced induction better filter new pumps plugs ecu pulleys bigger piston.thnks:) and if i didnt already say it, thnks for the tips and info above

Nice shyt, i was looking at a couple of my mags last night and every 240sx and 180sx all and i mean all of them had the sr20dets in some form it was outa control. but im looking for an engine in the 200hp range to begin. what kind of whp can i put on a ka? could i be gettin 260+whp, and if i turbo the ka will it make my ride "quick"?What other mid mods are there for the stock ka? if i turbo its not guna b at first so says the uther guyz and im guna stick with that info so i wana kno what else i can put on there besides air intakes forced induction better filter new pumps plugs ecu pulleys bigger piston.thnks:) and if i didnt already say it, thnks for the tips and info above

1) any engine you swap in there from the nissan family (ca, rb, sr) will give you 200+ hp with a little bit of help (upgraded turbo, intercooler kit,etc)
2) a basic turbo ka will be around the basic sr20 (150-160whp) so thats not bad, but do all the internals, have the right size turbo at the right psi and all the other details, you can have a 500hp ka or more.. there's a guy who has a 400hp N/A ka. what does that tell you?? its all about how much you put in with the turbo.. spend $1500 and you're at 5psi.. spend $4000 and you're at 25psi. its all relative

dont you think it would cost more than 4k to be running 25psi??

psi(pounds per square inch)does that mean how much air pressure the turbo is pushing into the pistons? or am i off the base

psi means how much boost your running. go to www.ka-t.org

the average wheel hp on those KA-T's are 400+. the minimum whp is 350whp.

for those who likes to convert to crank hp. 400+ whp is around 500 crank hp. thats more then quick enough for 11 second 1/4 mile passes and 0-60 in the 3 second range.

structured240sx is making around 380whp and he can spin his wide 10 in wide wheels in 3rd gear from roll, not even flooring it. which means on the highway at around 70mph he half throttle his car, and he can spin his fat wide tires.

he ran the 1/4 mile in 12.5 @ 119mph which means he hit from 0-119mph in just 12.5 seconds or within only 1320ft.

this was done not flooring the car until the end of 3rd gear till 5th. so 1st, 2nd and 3rd gear wasn't even floored because he would spin the tires. if he had slicks he would've trapped around 123-124mph in the 1/4 mile