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wuman82
12-01-2004, 02:07 PM
Hi all, I know there are 2 threads right not about the projector headlights, but I don't really want to put my question in there, so I'm sorry if I started an extra thread.

My question is, what bulbs are you guys using and what are you experiences? I want something that will put out more light than the OEM ones on the car. I know about the Silverstars, but depending on who you talk to, you get mixed reactions about them. I haven't found a lot of options for 9006 size bulbs, its either the silverstars or cheapy ebay ricy type of bulbs. Can I use something like H4 bulbs?(because there are a lot more choices out there for H4s) Will it plug into our stock harness? I don't care for the ricy bluish look, but short of getting a HID retrofit(which I don't have money for right now) what can I use to get more light on the road?
Also, for people with projectors on your car, how do you like them? Hows the light pattern? Does it actually cast more light down the road?
Thanks.

GTPSPEED
12-01-2004, 02:57 PM
ok,i have had alot of the cheap ones in my car,i hated silverstars when i took a few steps back from looking into my lights they looked almost stock,so the ones i loved were ebay ones that were called euro designs plasma blue 9006 they look nice, a little blue but your car those bulbs definetly look different from stock,nice bulbs

wuman82
12-01-2004, 03:05 PM
ok,i have had alot of the cheap ones in my car,i hated silverstars when i took a few steps back from looking into my lights they looked almost stock,so the ones i loved were ebay ones that were called euro designs plasma blue 9006 they look nice, a little blue but your car those bulbs definetly look different from stock,nice bulbs

Do they put more light than stock? Like I said, I don't really care if it has the blue look or not, most of the cheap ones have a blue film on the bulb that make the light look blue, but actually put out less light. I really want the most light possible, cause I just did a 10 hour drive this past weekend, and I would of liked more light to reduce my fatigness. Anyone have any experience with PIAA Xtreme Whit Plus? Suppostly they put out light in 4000k range, that would be nice to have.

1stGenRocks
12-02-2004, 12:54 AM
more light in the wrong range will actually increase fatigue. let me explain what i mean. purple/blue has the most glare then white then yellow. the more glare the faster your eyes get tired. your car actaully looks like it already has projectors. i cant speak from personal experience but from what ive read the silverstars are the best choice. some people have luck with ebay bulbs other times they burn through 2 or 3 sets in a few months and then either go back to stock or get silverstars.

wuman82
12-02-2004, 02:48 AM
I know that blue/purple color bulbs increase fatigue, thats why I said I don't care for the blue ricy bulbs from ebay. That is also why I'm asking for suggestion for bulbs that put out more light instead of light bulbs with color.
My car doesn't have projectors, just the stock lights. I actually like the way our stock headlights look, I love how the light is already blacked out and stuff.
What I was thinking is getting the brightest bulb possible for the headlights and then getting some yellow fogs. I was thinking about PIAA Xtreme Whit Plus and some PIAA Ion yellows for the fogs. Anyone have any of these setup on their car, or anyother recommandations?

I'm in college, so in about 3 weeks I'm gonna have to make the 10 hour trip for home again, so I would like to get something before that.

DsManiac
12-02-2004, 03:37 AM
i think h.i.d's are the brightest and you need to do custom work for that

GTPSPEED
12-02-2004, 05:52 AM
im telling you those silverstars suck,theyt look stock,man i had these in my car and took them out,if i can find what i did with them ,you can have them and see for yourself,and maybe if you cant see at night you should try adjusting yours,maybe the angle is messed?

wuman82
12-02-2004, 06:26 PM
im telling you those silverstars suck,theyt look stock,man i had these in my car and took them out,if i can find what i did with them ,you can have them and see for yourself,and maybe if you cant see at night you should try adjusting yours,maybe the angle is messed?


Cool, free Silverstars hehe :naughty:

gsxeclipse97
12-03-2004, 01:25 AM
i have piaa head lights and there are really bright white, i often get flashed because of that as for the fog lights they are almost useless unless you are really short, i can't even tell mine are on unless i sit up and turn them off and on just to see where the range is. As for the euro dezign lights (they suck i had them and went through 2 sets) im just going to do the hid conversion. they make kits already set up for are cars.

wuman82
12-03-2004, 01:30 AM
i have piaa head lights and there are really bright white, i often get flashed because of that as for the fog lights they are almost useless unless you are really short, i can't even tell mine are on unless i sit up and turn them off and on just to see where the range is. As for the euro dezign lights (they suck i had them and went through 2 sets) im just going to do the hid conversion. they make kits already set up for are cars.

How much for the HIDs for our cars, and where can you get them? Do you have a link for them? Thanks.

gsxeclipse97
12-03-2004, 01:42 AM
you could try www.hidplace.com or you could try machv.com someone i know got theres from there there are probaly going to run you anywhere from 350 and up

gsxeclipse97
12-03-2004, 01:45 AM
i know someone who works for a company that makes the projectors and he told me unless you want to find a bmw or and evos projetors and find a way to mount them i your headlights you are better off with the oem setup

GTPSPEED
12-03-2004, 05:25 AM
who wants to spend 350 for headlights,thats crazy at least the piaa's are like 70 bucks i would try those before spending 350

thecackster
12-03-2004, 12:23 PM
Plus they are illegal right??? 12) In 2002 the DOT banned the sale of HID lights, due to the fact that "light is scattered", "glares affected other drivers", "were improperly focused." HID lights should be used for off-road and show purposes only. The lights should and have to be properly aligned, please look in your manual, it should be listed under leveling or adjusting thats from that website....unless your car is for show, and your driving it... can't you get a ticket or somthin?

wuman82
12-03-2004, 03:40 PM
Yea, I'm thinking that I'm just gonna get a set of PIAAs from ebay and see how bright they are.

Thourun
12-03-2004, 03:58 PM
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/3184/194935Car_Lights_002.jpg
Silverstar on the left, OEM on the right. They don't suck at all. I took them off because I just sold the car and the silverstar foglights were brighter than the stocks. Granted the stocks were kinda old and a few of the rings on the fillaments were fused but they are worth the money in my book. You can even get them at wallmart.

YogsVR4
12-03-2004, 04:00 PM
Sometimes I wish that these headlight makers would keep in mind that oncoming traffic has these shining in their faces.

Thourun
12-03-2004, 04:02 PM
Especialy when puting them in SUVs...

thecackster
12-03-2004, 04:33 PM
a-man, to that... some of those truck/suv on low beam are like just perfect in your eyes... hahaha...piss ya off

GTPSPEED
12-03-2004, 07:42 PM
dude hes not talking about fog lights i dont think,and you can buy silverstars at walmart for like $30 buck,,i bought them and they sucked i took mine out,,i stood in fron of my car and i couldnt tell the difference,imo they suck

GTPSPEED
12-03-2004, 07:46 PM
by the way,,,the silverstars are 4000k,,,the cheap euro dezigns off ebay are 5200k,,,hmmm

Thourun
12-03-2004, 07:50 PM
Color temp does not indicate brightness, in fact you sacrifice brightness for that blueish tint. Heres a great sticky thread about the subject, its a good read. Those ebay bargans blow out real fast since they run higher wattage.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=177538

GTPSPEED
12-03-2004, 08:03 PM
wow,i didnt know that cool good article

Thourun
12-03-2004, 08:09 PM
PIAAs are too rich for my blood and I don't like the blueish qualities they come with, I like a crisp bright white light for a reasonable price and thats what silverstar gives me. If people want something different I sugest they know what they want and read that article before they make any decisions. They're both better than stock, the difference was just more pronounced for me I guess.

wuman82
12-03-2004, 11:30 PM
thanks for the link to the article. Thats the exact kind of thread I wanted to see. I guess now I have to find myself some PIAA super plasma GT-X. Man, gonna be expensive, but I think well needed for something as important as your car and life.

gsxeclipse97
12-03-2004, 11:35 PM
piaa headlights dont have a blue tint unless you buy those mine are just white. As for the h.i.d you are not likely to be given a ticket for your headlights if that was so than those bmw x5 would be screwed, ther're beams are right in my window, have you ever been parked in front of a evo when they turn on there lights you can't see anything behind it so you wont get stoped for that

gsxeclipse97
12-03-2004, 11:38 PM
what link did he give you?

wuman82
12-03-2004, 11:52 PM
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbu...ad.php?t=177538

its a good article that talks about bulb and color temperature. On the 3rd page theres a pic of the PIAA super plasma GT-X, it looks real nice, and from that thread should throw out a lot of light also. I actually just bought a set of the plasam GT-X from ebay like 2 mins ago, man, its expensive for bulbs, and I'll see how they are. I'll be pissed if they burnt out though...
I hate impulse buying!!!

gsxeclipse97
12-03-2004, 11:55 PM
how much where they?

wuman82
12-04-2004, 01:02 AM
$84.xx shipped. I guess they are being shipped straight from Japan, at least according to the email the seller send me. Can't wait to get them and actually see how they are,

george536
12-04-2004, 03:00 AM
damn 84 bucks. i got my foglight bulbs for 18 bucks and they are nicely bright and like the blueish look to it. im going to get the headlights also. from ebay

gsxeclipse97
12-04-2004, 12:50 PM
what kind of headlights do you have those are really bright. My headlights are sand blasted from the people who had my car before me do you know how i could take that off wiith out buying new ones?

wuman82
12-04-2004, 01:48 PM
Taking off the headlights are a pain. You have to take off the whole front bumper before you can take off the headlights.

gsxeclipse97
12-05-2004, 05:06 PM
i dont want to do all of that i just want to make them clear so they don't have all that stuff on the out side of them

wuman82
12-05-2004, 06:59 PM
i dont want to do all of that i just want to make them clear so they don't have all that stuff on the out side of them
Oh my bad, I misunderstood you. I thought you wanted to take the whole light off. If you just want to clean your lights, you can get some healight polisher. 3M makes a good plastic polisher, you just use that to rub your headlight. I think I need to clean my lights also cause I have a lot of spots, although I think they are on the inside.

Nayr747
12-06-2004, 02:04 PM
Remember not to touch the bulbs or they'll be toast.

thecackster
12-06-2004, 02:10 PM
Ya your oils will get too hot and burst the bulb right?

dsmodder
12-06-2004, 02:39 PM
i foudn some blue ones that i stole off a car at the dealership iw ork at. they are pretty bright. and free

wuman82
12-06-2004, 03:53 PM
i foudn some blue ones that i stole off a car at the dealership iw ork at. they are pretty bright. and free
haha, way to incriminate yourself through the forums. Have you ever read about that post of a Mustang tech that took a client's Cobra for a joy ride...?
But I guess this is the internet, so who cares.

You know Nayr747, your sig pic of the silver eclipse with LED lights, I think we should all start an effort to find out whos car that is and how/where he got those lights. Thos look hella nice and I wouldn't mind having that on my car.

george536
12-06-2004, 03:58 PM
haha, way to incriminate yourself through the forums. Have you ever read about that post of a Mustang tech that took a client's Cobra for a joy ride...?
But I guess this is the internet, so who cares.

You know Nayr747, your sig pic of the silver eclipse with LED lights, I think we should all start an effort to find out whos car that is and how/where he got those lights. Thos look hella nice and I wouldn't mind having that on my car.
those lights are not real, they were made by photoshop, by someone here in the forums. i wish they were real.

thecackster
12-06-2004, 03:59 PM
YA photoshop.... I've looked everywhere and can't find them....maybe petition the light companies to make them... haha... but i swear they make them for every other damn car... and they would look so nice on the eclipse.

wuman82
12-06-2004, 04:17 PM
Photoshopped eh? Man, that sucks even more. At least before I though those lights existed somewhere, but now I find out the lights don't even exist.

Nayr747
12-06-2004, 06:09 PM
those lights are not real, they were made by photoshop, by someone here in the forums. i wish they were real.

Ya, by me damnit.

YA photoshop.... I've looked everywhere and can't find them....maybe petition the light companies to make them... haha... but i swear they make them for every other damn car... and they would look so nice on the eclipse.

Man, this was all in my thread a while ago. Ya know the one about telling the companies we want new lights not the tired old 3 ball altezza ones. I made different designs too if you want to see other styles but I thought these were the most subtle and nicest. They look like they are oem.

I've looked around and there a lot of european companies that make these kinds of lights for WVs and Audies etc. but it's like they're too retarded to figure out that people with dsm's would want them(they do have Ecipses over there Im pretty sure).

Anyway back to you're thread. I have Sylvania Cool Blue lights (9007) and they are a lot brighter and nicer than my old stocks. But good luck with yours. They sound nice.

hidplace
12-07-2004, 02:51 PM
you could try www.hidplace.com or you could try machv.com someone i know got theres from there there are probaly going to run you anywhere from 350 and up

Hey thanks :D

we got a sale now and the brightest kit we sell is at $310 shipped...

heres a pic of the difference b/w HID and one of those aftermarket bulbs
5300K HID is on the left
http://www.hidplace.com/5300kaltimavshalogen.jpg

wuman82
12-07-2004, 04:20 PM
You know, I've been meaning to ask this question. How are your guys lights aimed? When I park my car in front of a wall or something, my passenger side light is lower than my driver side, even though the level meter thing shows that they are at the same level. Is that normal? Of the cars I've seen, both the driver side and passenger side headlights are at the same level. I should be getting my PIAAs in today, I'll let you guys know how they look and put up some pics.

hidplace
12-07-2004, 07:57 PM
your passanger side should be a little bit higher than your drivers side (pedestrians, signs and other road marks are usually on the passanger side in the USA)

wuman82
12-07-2004, 09:07 PM
Well, got the lights today and just put them in and drove around, the only picture that is worth showing is:
http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/rutaowu/xanga/lights.jpg
left is the PIAA, and right is the old bulb.

Quick review: is it brighter than the bulbs I took out? maybe, I'm not really sure right now. However, it does produce a really nice light pattern, it goes wider and further down the road, and the cut off is really good. My above post about my passenger light being lower than the driver side, scratch that, apprently that is some how due to the bulb I had in the car, cause now with the new PIAAs, the light levels are even
Now, am I happy that I got the PIAAs? sure, it is putting out more light than before. But is it worth the money that I spend? porbably not, I wouldn't buy them again.
I'm going home in about 2 weeks, and doing that 11 hour drive, so maybe I'll change my mind after the trip, who knows.

gsxeclipse97
12-07-2004, 11:56 PM
i tried the wax from 3m but the stuff was still on the outside of my headlights. I can scratch at it but it kinda plastered on there so any other ideas

gsxeclipse97
12-07-2004, 11:59 PM
how much would a set of 8000k hids be that is what i was planning on getting?

wuman82
12-08-2004, 12:29 AM
how much would a set of 8000k hids be that is what i was planning on getting?
You can check www.hidplace.com, they have the 8000k kits. However, I don't know if you realize, if you get 8000k you will be loosing usable light, it will just look cool. The most usable light is around 4800-5300k, if you go any higher, you actually loose light. But if you just want it for looks, I guess its up to you.

gsxeclipse97
12-08-2004, 12:55 AM
well i don't want to loose that much light ill just go with 6500k then.

Nayr747
12-08-2004, 09:43 PM
I personally think 6000k is by far the nicest looking. Bright white with a little purple.

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/DSCN1208.JPG

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/DSCN1210.JPG

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/DSCN1211.JPG

Hey, I just read the guy's site I got those pics from. He says his lights are an 8000k HID kit. Those dont look like 8000k. Do they?

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/car.htm

gsxeclipse97
12-08-2004, 10:46 PM
i ment to say 6000k but, are those ones there 6000

gsxeclipse97
12-08-2004, 10:50 PM
ahh well that is really bright those are the 8000 well they have a little to much purple in them for me but they aren't bad i need to see some with 6000 in an eclipse to decide.

Nayr747
12-09-2004, 12:41 AM
OK, now I'm confused. This place says:

"6000K is white with a hint of purple

8000K is brilliant blue"

And this other site has this pic:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v358/Nayr747/4a_1.jpg

But then look at the pictures in these two. They both say the complete opposite of the top ones. It says 6000k is pure white and all the way up at 1200k is white/purple.So what's the truth? Any experts?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7938609070&category=36476

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7938607680&category=36476

gsxeclipse97
12-09-2004, 01:16 AM
on the site it says that 10000k is the purple and blue color 8000 is suposed to be blue and white
6000 is still blue but more white and the others are just white with different brightness

george536
12-09-2004, 02:12 AM
I personally think 6000k is by far the nicest looking. Bright white with a little purple.

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/DSCN1208.JPG

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/DSCN1210.JPG

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/DSCN1211.JPG

Hey, I just read the guy's site I got those pics from. He says his lights are an 8000k HID kit. Those dont look like 8000k. Do they?

http://www.dsmetc.com/car/car.htm
i like his plates :grinyes:

gsxeclipse97
12-09-2004, 03:35 PM
not at all they are bright purple

gsxeclipse97
12-15-2004, 12:20 AM
i know that we covered this already but i was looking on line and 8000 are the brightest in a reflector housing and the 6000 are the brightest on a projector so i going to go with the 8000

wuman82
12-15-2004, 02:15 AM
it would look nice, take some pictures when you are done with it.


Now that I've driven the car for awhile after I got my PIAAs, I realized that the lights are amazing. I didn't like them at first was because right after I put them in I was driving around and I was trying to look at the light that its projecting down the road, and at the time I thought I couldn't see anything, but after I've driven awhile I realized that I was still looking for the yellowish tints to the normal headlights, which I no longer have anymore, now everything in front of me is being lit up in white, it is amazing!!!

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