S14 VS Camaro SS

yea lol, guess who won this one?? Ofcourse i lost.. :p but it was worth the fight... First me and him got to 100mph+ i was in 4th and was gonna shift to 5th but decided to cool it , there were a few cars out on the road...

Then me and him pulled up to a light we talked for a sec, light turned green and we both punched it, i kept up with him in 1st for a few because i got the torque and lighter car and he has to much torque and havier car lol... then shifted in second and he started to pull away, i was gonna shift to third but he already had my by about 2 cars so it was fun while it lasted hahah...

then another Z28 pulled out being all loud like they are are and im all "GOSH DARNIT!!! WHERE IS MY TURBO WHEN I NEED IT!!" I hope i meet that SS again when i do get a turbo...

Next light i pulled up to him i rilled down my window... and he was all looking light hes cool and stuff hahaha and im all "atleast i get better gas mileage!!" haha he got a smile on his face and he knew he just got owned, and he knows he will get owned if i had a turbo!!!...

Turbo Soon!! woohoo :lol2:

or course you got wasted by a camaro SS, their 1/4 mile times are like 13.6 stock, good fight tho. Why did you by header when ur going to get a turbo? just wondering, what kind of turbo and accsessories are you going to get?

or course you got wasted by a camaro SS, their 1/4 mile times are like 13.6 stock, good fight tho. Why did you by header when ur going to get a turbo? just wondering, what kind of turbo and accsessories are you going to get?

well right now a header is an option because i wont get a turbo till sometime next year, and im sure ill be able to sell the header on ebay for some few bucks and get some money back... its no big deal, i figured why not do the whole exhaust not just half... and then just get a downpipe when a get a turbo and ill be good to go...

dont spend any money on the n/a. just save up for the turbo. trust me.

you'll probably just squeak by him with a turbo upgrade.

turbo won't beat em either. Camaro SS's get high 13s stock, you will have to do more than a turbo to get high 13s

a few comments on this thread:



Camaro SS can run low 13's, not high 13's... they usually get tested in stock form to an agreeable 13.3 1/4 mile time, and I would also agree with that from what I've seen LS1's running at Moroso dragstrip.

I highly doubt you raced a real LS1 SS Camaro, it was probably a v6 with SS badges, cause he would have waisted you a lot worse then 2 car lengths by the top of 3rd gear, it would probably do that in 1st gear against a ka24de with I/H/E. Those bitches launch hard, thats always an advantage of the v8 versus the tuned import.

a few comments on this thread:



Camaro SS can run low 13's, not high 13's... they usually get tested in stock form to an agreeable 13.3 1/4 mile time, and I would also agree with that from what I've seen LS1's running at Moroso dragstrip.

I highly doubt you raced a real LS1 SS Camaro, it was probably a v6 with SS badges, cause he would have waisted you a lot worse then 2 car lengths by the top of 3rd gear, it would probably do that in 1st gear against a ka24de with I/H/E. Those bitches launch hard, thats always an advantage of the v8 versus the tuned import.

haha it was a V8 and i asked him what he does in 1/4 and he said 13.5 and he said hes stock, it was an SS, and i never got in 3rd gear, so he beat me by 2 cars already when i was still in 2nd lol... they are known for burning out to much because of alot of Hp and torque, i know if i would have kept going to 3rd gear and all he would have been at the next stop light waiting already ahah..

dont spend any money on the n/a. just save up for the turbo. trust me.

you'll probably just squeak by him with a turbo upgrade.

well im not exactly spending any money on n/a engine if you think about it? the only thing i wont use on the turbo engine is my header, everything else ill be using on my turbo set up. The only other thing i might get a pulley kit, which i can use on the turbo engine, and the cams out of a 91 240, wich i cant use on the turbo engine as well...

turbo won't beat em either. Camaro SS's get high 13s stock, you will have to do more than a turbo to get high 13s

im not going for just a turbo, i tell you that :naughty: ill be picking up another KA engine from a junk yard and strip it. I will do the internals, head work, all the fun stuff, im not going to just throw a turbo on my stock engine and hope to smoke people, ill put a turbo on my turbo set up engine and blow everyones doors off lol..

my goal is 400whp and hopefully run 12s at some 15 psi or something, dont know yet, but my goal is pretty high....

how many f'ing threads are there gonna be that talk about this guys 1 yr + in the future turbo engine and what he has on it now jesus christ not that f'ing interesting

how many f'ing threads are there gonna be that talk about this guys 1 yr + in the future turbo engine and what he has on it now jesus christ not that f'ing interesting

guy relax, i only keep repeating myself a lot is because people keep missing what i have siad in other threads about turbo and this and that, so they ask same questions, its not a prob, i dont get all steamed up like some people... just calm down, dont be so hard on yourself...

"I highly doubt you raced a real LS1 SS Camaro, it was probably a v6 with SS badges, cause he would have waisted you a lot worse then 2 car lengths by the top of 3rd gear,"

If it was a v6, he wouldve smoked him, i know.

what i meant was that the s14 wouldve smoked the v6 camaro

turbo won't beat em either. Camaro SS's get high 13s stock, you will have to do more than a turbo to get high 13s
a turbo on a ka... prolly. an sr-t with fmic.... no. :icon16:

on the highway the sr has amazing gearing and would put an ss down.


even if it does do low 13's, lets say 13.3's... it's doing 13.3's at 102xx, and im doing 13.4's at almost 107xx. from a highway roll its toast. even from a dead stop it's going to be just about dead even up till 3rd gear when i'd start pulling.

im not sure a ka-t has enough power to do that unless it's a bigger turbo than a t25.

what i meant was that the s14 wouldve smoked the v6 camaro

nope not the 3.8 liter, maybe the 3.4. 3.8 F-bodies get 15.4 sec 1/4 mile stock. 240s get like 16s stock.

And GT500 can you resize your sig? That thing is huge

nope not the 3.8 liter, maybe the 3.4. 3.8 F-bodies get 15.4 sec 1/4 mile stock. 240s get like 16s stock.

And GT500 can you resize your sig? That thing is huge

haha will do, when i get home from work...

Plus im sure mine does low mid 15s right now, cause i feel the power increase after i did all the mods i have... so i know i would have smoked a V6

Dudes the V6 is not even a question i think i know my cars lol, i do have a 67 stang and put a 91 V8 in there so if i dont know what a V8 sounds like i should just quit working on cars lol...

The thread is about me racing an SS ofcourse i lost, but i put up a good fight... and had to represent the Imports... and had to reasure him that he wasnt racing some civic or something :p

damn u got some guts to even try against a SS. i give you an A+ for effort tho. haha. i'm liking the 'clean look' on your 240. keep it up.

ps.. you could race any N/A RX7 FC3S's... you'd kill them even if it was stock. trust me, i know~

I think the 98+ v6 camaros are even faster then mid 15's.... they run way more power and torque then a KA24de..... I just don't get some of these stories... how can people think their car is as fast as another car that has 50-100 more horsepower? that shit makes a difference

and sorry mark your 250rwhp SR20 won't pull on a 300rwhp stock LS1, maybe from a stop if you had wider tires and a LSD and actually knew how to launch a car the weight difference would come into effect but from a roll that initial torque is going to pull you a good half a car length and I don't see you gaining on em. LS1 are fucking BEASTS on the top end.250hp is 250hp, 300hp is 300hp.... Factor in the 500 pound weight advantage and its close, factor in the camaros sr20 ass raping torque and he just walks you... Id put money on it, god forbid the LS1 had I/H/E he would run away from you on the top end. When hes making 360lbs of torque to your 240lbs of torque hes going to be accelerating at a faster rate. How come the import crowd seems to forget about torque numbers? they are the ones that really matter.......

I've seen LS1 take on faster cars then bolt on sr20'd 240sx's..... that shit isn't really that fast in the grand scheme of things, if u had 400rwhp id be rooting for you but I just don't see a 250rwhp sr20 walking a LS1 on the top end. Especially if its an auto camaro

you don't have any experience to know about high performance high displacement engines... they fucking own a lil 2 liter 4 banger on the top end, they launch great but if the 240 has traction its weight difference can help in the first couple gears

and lets not forget we are talking about an engine swapped 240sx with bolt ons versus a stock camaro, why don't you let the camaro get a few bolt ons too and race, should open your eyes to the drag racing world....

all I gots to say is call me up when you hear about little displacement import engines in the 4's.........

face the facts displacement owns straight line racing... there is no other way around it, this isn't fantasy land, its the damn truth

and lets face the facts, the 240sx chassis owns the camaro's chassis hands down... put the ls1 makes the sr20 its bitch. Some are 305-350hp stock against a 205-250hp stock engine.


bow down to the 625hp LT-1, 2500 spent on parts to rebuild the engine.... Pistons, Rods, Discounted Cam, Free Lifters, Discounted Rockers, ported heads, electric water pump, intake manifold porting, NOS. you can barely buy a stock sr20det clip for that shit, welcome to the world of v8's cough fast cars....

build a 625hp SR20 for 2500 bucks, can't be done, a good manifold and turbo would almost cost that much alone. I dunno I just like going fast sometimes

if the ss ran high 13's a turbo ka could take it maybe but since it is apparently low then no it cant i have a friend w/ a turbo ka and the only upgrade it exhaust and fmic and he ran a 13.8 on the worst tires of all time

OK, I need to clear some things up for all of you. I used to be a muscle head, Chevy is my favorite company. My dad is also still a die hard Chevy muscle head. The SS Camaros ran 13.6 in all stock trim. That was the specs that all the magazines that tested it gave. At the track they ran from 13.5 - 13.8 in completely stock trim. That includes the stock tires. The problem with the Camaro is traction off the line. They have a lot of torque and tend to burn out too much. With simple drag radials they run low 13's. That's 13.0 - 13.4 depending on drag radials or just good tires. Good tires make a big difference in those cars. Most guys don't do much to those cars besides tires. They do have a ood top end but the weight plays a big part. I'm personally not sure who I would put money on in a freeway race, it would come down to who had better aerodynamics. And I'm not sure who does. But remember, hp makes you go fast once you're moving, torque gets you moving. They both matter at high speeds but hp, weight, and aerodynamics mean a lot more. My Nismo, I would put my money on you versus a stock SS with stock tires. Freeway I don't know.

sr20 stop talking about all your chevy crap. its making me sick and has nothing to do with this thread.


look at my 1/4mi times, and look at an ss's. then look at the traps. i'd win. im not making this up... there's no reason why i would. i've raced an ss before on the hiway with three people in my car and we took about a car on it.

it depends what year ss you are talking about... i believe in 01 they changed things around and they are quite a bit faster than an turbo 240.

someone I know ran a 12.87 @ 107 stock with a 2001 firebird


thats stock man, pretty damn fast for a sub 30k car..... heres the thing people who drive decent nail off 13.1 and lower times pretty good with stock ls1's... someone who can't drive too good usually runs 13.3+, especially the 6 speeds. It is probably one of the best weapons for street racing stock for stock and has a hell of an aftermarket

yes the speeds of a ls1 camaro are on topic for this thread:
240sx vs Camaro SS

dude.... to allll!!!! SS camaros are fast.....FAST FAST FAST FAST, i think my car is fast (really its had allot of bolt ons, T28 ...etc) me vs a SS....well

the 1st time i ran it on the track.... he launched bad and smoked allot, i was ok...then he got me in the top of 3rd.
the second time he ...welll......just killed me, from teh start till the end. my car (about 260hp?) his (430 hp) he said its lightlly tuned!!! yeah there fast , as much as i love imports...domestic rulz the 1/4 mile!

;(

see this guy has the right idea

your all going off the map here, your trying to do straightline racing on the streets and dragstrips with low displacement engines, it is not ideal....

sr20 good motor for autocross or a road course/drifting....

LS1 good motor for going fast

Sorry but I really don't think a 12.87 is possible with a stock Firebird. The 2001 had a max hp of 325hp (crank). That was the top of the line model that was rare. There is no way it was stock. If he told you that, then he lied. The Corvette has 350hp and 350tq, is lighter than the Firebird and Camaro, was much wider wheels and tires, and it runs a 13.0 - 13.2 in stock trim. The Z06 Corvette runs a 12.6. That has 405hp and 400tq. The new Corvette runs a 12.7 - 12.8 and has 400hp and 400tq. I gave times, and they are right. Quit bullshitting or don't believe the guys driving those cars. Most of the time they lie anyways because they want to try and compete with the prices we pay. The SS is a $32,000 car. The cheapest Ive seen one new is $28,000. For much less money than that I can have a 10 second Honda Civic easily.

would it matter if I said i've seen it personally? lol

also in 2001+ some LS1 engines are LS6 blocks and produce more power, which is probably the case here... its easily possible man go check out some f body forums and find out for yourself and the corvette is 50 lbs lighter then a camaro, not really that much of a difference when u factor in driver weight, fuel amount, etc.... Also some f bodies come from the factory with some wide tires....

sure you could build a 10 second honda... but it will require constant maintenace, be breaking axels and transissions left and right, and your engine will need rebuilds at a wallet draining rate....

then for 28k you could have a 13.0 give or take second car with stock reliability.... im not saying it will not ever break anything, but the durability of honda parts and 10 second passes is far more irrational. And i never have but I would bet monet on it, that you can barely drive a 10 second honda on the street safely, i see quite a few c5 vettes and ls1 camaros at moroso dragstrip on test and tune running 11's or 10's on radials and driving home that night and to work the next morning.

actually my mom had a '02 firebird v-8 6 speed, f-in fast

Remember I started as a muscle head. I know and love those cars. F-bodies do have wide tires but not like the Corvette. Trust me, if he ran a 12.87, he was not completely stock. The WS6 was the highest powered Firebird, with 325hp. I know muscle cars. I'm even a Chevy guy. I go to drags all the time. My friend owns a 2001 z-28. My dream car is a ZO6. I love the cars, I just know exactly how they perform. And no, the motor on a 10 second Honda would need new piston rings about every 25,000 to 30,000 miles, not a big deal if you do the work. It's easy to do, takes time though, and is cheap. Hone the block, and add new rings. Easy to drive on the streets, put on street tires and run low boost.

uhhhhh s13wanabe.... i don't know..... HONDA vs SS or musle cars, i have to agree with sr20power, the honda will have problmz. the ss is stock and the honda is moded. (i never owed any of them so i can only speculate that the moded honda after a 10sec run will have problmz)

My friend pushes over 500hp in his b18. He does exactly what I said. His motor never has problems. Plus it takes quite a bit of mods to make a V8 run 10's. If we want to talk about 12 second cars it's way easy to have a 12 second daily driver, reliable Civic for under $10,000. One of my friends did a B18C5 in an eg hatch, 15 by 6.5 inch wheels, Falken Azenis tires, I/H/E, and gutted of course and he ran a 12.98. My car when I'm done with it will run high 12's low 13's NA with an LS/Vtec. I already run 14.01 with very little done.

actually 325 is not the highest horsepower rating camaro/firebird has, and the ws6 is not the most powerful f body.

also if you look at dyno sheets of ls1's you will notice their actual RWHP is very close to claimed factory numbers, where as other cars like the 240sx have a lot of drvietrain loss to factor in, chevy DOES rate some engines lower then their output throughout history.

I know of a stock z06 running 12.2 in the 1/4
and a stock LT5 ZR1 running 12.1 fuckin insane!
yes I got videos to prove it too lmao

again if you can control the launch and still be fast you can get some incredible times in high hp vettes and camaros


also for 10k i could smoke your 12 second ls-vtec with a ls1.......

6500 for a 98 Trans Am LS1 automatic..... that leaves me with 3500 for headers, intake, exhaust, cam, roller rockers... which would leave me in the neighoorhood of above 400rwhp.... don't forget a pair of drag radials

American V8s are hands down the cheapest way to make a car go fast in drag racing. SR20power is right, z28's are rated at 290 rwhp stock, chevy lists them at 305 bhp b/c they want lower insurance for the owners. an SS and ws6 probably have around 305-310 rwhp. Then with forced induction, will blow anything out of the water. This is a fact, of course I don't like it either but it's reality. Of couse no F-body can take on a 240 on back roads, drifting, auto-xing, or grip racing :). I knew someone with a trans am that had a mildly modded suspension (had everything pretty much) and said his 240 with stock suspension was still more nimble and handled better on back roads.

I'll vouch for that statement, I drove a 2001 WS6 6 speed before and I think a 130,000 mile 240sx s13 hatch on regular tires handles better.

I know of a stock z06 running 12.2 in the 1/4
and a stock LT5 ZR1 running 12.1 fuckin insane!

and know you guys KNOW he is bs'ing


i've seen a "stock" ws6 run a 13.0. ahhhh, no. it wasn't stock. its called a "SLEEPER".

i've also raced a "stock" 5.0 with a bpipe and intake. raced him... he pulled by 6 cars. he told me it runs a 11.8 afterwards. his engine bay looked completely stock.

don't you have any common sense... a car can be fast unknowingly even if the owner tells you its stock.

Thankyou Mynismo. I'm glad some people have sense here. I don't want to be mean, but you need slicks, or drag radials to even think of running a 12.2 in a Z06. They just won't do it stock. When I say stock I mean factory tires. If you say these cars are stock that are running these spectacular times, then why can't professional drivers testing them get these numbers. I guess you're saying that amateur guys like us are better drivers than people who race for a living. And of course I know Chevy underates their cars. Everyone knows that. The perfect example is the 1969 ZL1 that had an all aluminum 427ci motor rated at like 430hp or something. The real number for that was over 520hp. But the differences aren't tha big anymore.

well, i know the one that smoke me was LIGHTLY moded.... but again, i suck at the /4 mile. i never figur it out.

Dude: gas it on the 3rd yellow light!!

me: uhhhh......ist't that cheating?

LOL

That's common knowledge for drag racig. It eliminates any time it takes you to think about, and then react to the green. You basically go on the third yellow and reaction times will be better. Fun stuff. I learned that the hard way too.

ok ok I take it back, shit its not 12.1.. that was for the ZR-1 with the LT5 DOHC v8


the record for a 100% stock z06 in the 1/4 mile is.......


























hold your breath

11.781 @ 117.59

http://pages.videotron.com/mystuff/2_time_slip.jpg

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/archive/index.php/t-855116.html


and yes Im saying that some CAR OWNERS can drive THEIR PERSONAL CAR better then some "professional"(what exactly makes them a professional?) magazine tester who fired up the car and their first ever pass in the car is what everyone takes for granted as what it can do... Go take your car in the same exact form

go every time for a year and race all night long... keep on practicing and practicing sooner or later you will probably pull off a really fast time that people won't believe? why? practice

come on now lets be fair, is your first ever pass at a drag strip your fastest?

my 1st pass i stalled ! that suked, thy got it on vdio too!
anyways 11.78 wtf? that is fast! stock?! omg! i will ever mess with one !

ok ok I take it back, shit its not 12.1.. that was for the ZR-1 with the LT5 DOHC v8


look

someone is a loser who looks up times online and posts them in other forums


ooooooooooooooooooooo

No I consider a professional driver as someone who professionally races for a living. No bone stock Z06 can run a 1/4 mile that fast. I freaking love that car, but it's not that fast. Practice will not make the car that fast, mods will. The specs that you show for the ZR-1 are accurate for the Lingenfelter ZR-1. That Corvette ran low 12's. However, that car was a Lingenfelter tuned ZR-1. Big difference from a normal one.

seriously how does a time slip show it's stock?

The point of this thread has been lost due to those in busted cars wanting a f0' shizzle my nizzle SS

go girls go!

I smell jealousy here


thats what the guy said, 100% stock original type and size tires....

sometimes you just have to trust people are honest...

mark how do we really know your car has 240rwhp or runs a 13. whatever? you could be lieing too, maybe it ran a 15.3......... wouldn't be suprised after seeing your drag racing skills on video lol....

I don't see how running a high 11 would be impossible, some of those cars are over 400hp, fairly light, and do have some big tires stock.... shit if a 240sx had 400hp with a LSD and wide ass tires I wouldn't doubt it running 11's.... lets also not forget z06 owners are usually a little bit older and probably can drag race cars better then all of us


sounds like some nissan 4 bangers are pissed they got their asses handed to them a couple times by Chevies and pushrods....

also how does showing evidence to back my statement make me a loser? more or less makes me right....

SR20DET, there is nothing of jealousy here...just replies to the chronically retarded.

1) most magazines don't just blast off one 1/4 mile and be done with it. They make a couple passes and get an average or a best.

2) like I said before a timeslip is not an indicator of what's under the hood and have you been to a track many times on test and tune night? 1/2 the track is running 'stock' but dropping 3-4 seconds off the 'stock' 1/4 mile time....it's called bullshit my friend. No stock Z06 will turn that time...especially adjusted.

Just because you have a boner for a car doesn't mean that bends the laws of physics.

mark how do we really know your car has 240rwhp or runs a 13. whatever? you could be lieing too, maybe it ran a 15.3......... wouldn't be suprised after seeing your drag racing skills on video lol....
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is that how?

sounds like some nissan 4 bangers are pissed they got their asses handed to them a couple times by Chevies and pushrods....
someone ban this piece of shit because he doesn't belong in this forum. he has been screwing up every other thread with his mother fucking chevy rederic and anti-nissan shots. fuck you you mother fucking fuck.

Guys with sense, we all know a Z06 won't run that fast stock. It's time to just let it go. Mynismo, I love your car, and have no doubt that your #'s are accurate. I honestly don't have a clue as to why sr20det power acts like this, but he obviously loves the car enough to believe any beyond reasonable thing about it. Just to give everyone an idea, I had a 1991 Nissan Hardbody truck, I bored and stroked the motor, cut a hole in the muffler, and took my intake off. I told people it was stock, but then I ran low 15's all day long, beating Celica GTS's, SI's, and GTI's. Everyone I raced left thinking that stock piece of shit nissan trucks were fast as hell, or I was just an incredible driver. That was about 4 years ago. I have changed a lot since then, but people truly believed that my truck was stock and the muffler was just rusted.

Wow this was just a nice little thread that was about a S14 and a Camaro SS then it came to Corvette Stock quarter times? wtf? i mean come on people...i want to hear shit like about 6000 will get you smoking that SS and stupid shit like that not arguing over which Muscle car has low 12 quarter times stock

yeah................... agree!

hey fuck you mynismo ricer with your fucking automatic loving seat cover buying probably bought need for speed underground dick monger


boy when I get that lt1 transplanted into a car I will drive all the way up to cleveland and put a thousand bucks down on a race or call you a pussy, the sad thing is my motor build up probably cost less then it did for you to buy a used 240sx hatchback... you will get fucking smoked like a 10 dollar blunt bitch

625hp against your almighty lil 240hp will make everyone laugh at you and you will run away to live in montana you fagget


:loser:

your still playing with the toys man, call me up when you can afford the other 4 cylinders

and its funny nobody else who had a z06 thought the guy was bullshitting.....

http://www.twinzoftorment.net/booty/graphics/bitch_slapped.gif
PEACE


*go ahead and ban me, don't want to be around a bunch of crybabies who get their panties in a bunch when someone talks about a fast v8*

lets just say IBTL

buying probably bought need for speed underground dick monger


buying a game is supposed to mean something about real world driving?


boy when I get that lt1 transplanted into a car I will drive all the way up to cleveland and put a thousand bucks down on a race or call you a pussy, the sad thing is my motor build up probably cost less then it did for you to buy a used 240sx hatchback... you will get fucking smoked like a 10 dollar blunt bitch


crap ass rebuild then I would suppose


625hp against your almighty lil 240hp will make everyone laugh at you and you will run away to live in montana you fagget

:loser:

your still playing with the toys man, call me up when you can afford the other 4 cylinders



Not as much as everyone is laughing now...think outside the 1/4 mile fool...some crotch rocket (with only 4 cylinders) would blow your doors off still for less than either car...you should just let it go. You are spewing hypocracy...1) your handle refers to a 4 cylinder and 2) the same could be said about your mullet engine by the V10, 12 and 16 crowd. I just hope to god it's a real LT1 and not some pull from a 70's 'CAMERO'.

Facts are you are delusional what V8's do and do not. As many people out there with pipe dreams on RB swaps and KA-T's there are an equal number of Mustang, camaro and Vette guys posting about their 500, 600, 800HP build ups that never happen.

With a V8 (purely from a mechanical point of view, nothing about weight balance and size)...you are dealing with almost all internals doubling. That adds both cost and reciprocating mass, hence why a 5L V8 everything else equal is not making double the power of a 2.5L I4/V8. Also gas consumption is increased.

Once a 2.4L is turbo'd for all intents and purposes it's now approaching the 'size' of a small V8...you will run into the limits of the chassis before you run into the limits of the power.

All cylinders really do is create more smoothness and help excessive bore sizes/strokes.

Sr20detpower, you seriously need to cool it. Z06's are fast, that's it we're done. We won't give 1/4 mile times because there is no way of being completely accurate. Internal mods are easy to hide and very possible in a motor like the 350 (very easy to mod). I honestly don't think a Z06 is as fast as you claim. I go to drags all the time and have never seen a stock one come close to the times you are claiming it ran. Like I said the best I've seen is either 12.54 or 12.53, I can't remember exactly. And don't start bagging on me about being a Chevy hater. I have a 1964 Chevy pickup that I'm restoring. I just finished puting the blower on the 572 crate motor. My dad and I have spent some big bucks, but we will be well over 1,000hp. I also have a 1970 350ci motor from a Corvette that I will probably build later down the line. Now one question for you is, are you puting an LT1 in your 240SX? If you are, I would like a price for everything you do, including labor, parts, motor, and specialty work, like welding. After that we will see who has the faster car for the money. Quit talking shit to Mynismo. He has a proven fast car. It's a real nice swap, and his car is well balanced.

your still playing with the toys man, call me up when you can afford the other 4 cylinders

from what i remember you dont even have ONE cylinder.

this guy doesn't even have a car people, and he talks all this trash.


b.s. .....




:sleeping:

my family owns a shop, I do everything myself or recruit help of my employees.. shops open 5 days a week, I usually work 7, even on thanksgiving week... about the only thing we don't do is professional paint jobs, or tires.

the cost to swap that engine into about any car that it will physically fit would only cost a couple hundred dollars at the absolute most, the rest is all in blood, sweat, and fun

when your taking engines and transmissions out of dozens of cars each week doing this kind of work really isn't hard, its actually pretty basic

I can probably do sr20 swaps in an afternoon, but believe it or not their is more money to be made with regular stock maintenance work.

True that. There is much more money in basic maintanace and work on regular cars than in performance modding and engine swaps. All I ask is that when you do price it out, include that standard labor cost at your shop. Most people don't have the knowledge or tools to do a swap like that. The sr20det swap is easy and doesn't take a lot of time, it's easy to mod, and doesn't have too much torque to keep the wheels spinning all day long. It may very well be the more cost effective way to make a fast drag car when comparing it to an LT1 swap. Plus traction is going to be an issue with an LT1.

im not worried about potential traction, cause they make slicks that will handle WAY more then 600hp......its how much tire can you mount under the car lol... time for the sawzall or cut off wheel, wish I had a damn plasma cutter... the car it goes into won't have a standard rear end, it will be all custom with chevy running gear to handle that torque.... basically what im saying is with some modification I can probably fit big enough slicks to handle the power easily.

sure you could run it on a stock r200 rear diff but it won't last as long and the axels themselves are not as strong... pull the axels from a GM 14 bolt and compare them to R200 axels lol. it sucks when you blow the rear diff out the cover on a gut wrenching launch, byproduct of down low torque...

I dunno a lt1 will make more power then a sr20det, it will make moderate to highish power A LOT cheaper, hell I saw a lt-1 engine for sale for 350 bucks one day, that is one hell of a deal, it would probably need some more machine work but figure around 700 for that, so for aroung 3000 and car or less you could have a 625hp engine in a 240sx, of course you still have to factor in things like upping the drivetrain but you would have to do that with a sr20det anyways with lesser power.... factor in the cost of a stock sr20 clip alone and the lt-1 already looks way better, then factor in modifiing the sr20... turbo, manifold, ecu, injectors, pistons, rods, cams, intake manifold... you know the drill... its going to be WAY more money for less power guranteed. Now this is just for ultimate speed, dunno about handling, someone who professionally swaps ls1 engines into fd3s rx7's and races them says it handles better then stock, but the all aluminum ls1 weighs less then the all iron lt1 from the impala.... that is a bad comparison though because believe it or not rotary engines can be heavy, maybe the actual housings are small and light but they also have accessories a piston engine doesn't have that adds a lot of weight.. I've looked into swapping it into a fc3s a lot, it might be a better option at handling more power then a 240sx IMHO. basically adding a v8 won't upset handling much at all, especially if you factor in mounting positions and engine setup with chassis balance in mind.

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i have no clue you were still into doing a 240 project. i thought you scraped that along time ago when you got your impala SS.

wait so now you're planning to swap a V8 into a 240? If I was to make an all drag car, I'd swap an ls1 into a 240 also if I had the knowledge.

man..... 240 are nice for what they are, balanced and nimble (need to upgread the power, suspention, but keep it BALANCED)......
why swap the V8 into it? anyway to each there own... i would like to see it!

ps: i heard of a small block shevy swap in an old datsun??? maybe the 24 is the same idea?

Half the 24-6-80Zs out there have V8s in them. There's a V8 powered FC that drifted better then most cars at Drift Mania, so handling is good.