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Pakeboy2
11-29-2004, 10:43 PM
when someone asks a question(s) about the problems they are having with their vehicles, why is it that (what I think) only half an answer is given. ie...How do you disconnect the DRL? Disconnect the DRL diode, but they don't explain where/what it is...another one...I'm getting water on the passenger side floor...check the drain tube...again it doesn't explain where the tube is...not everyone has a repair manual or posseses mechanical knowledge. We are just trying to save a buck or two and learn as we go. I am not bashing anyone and I really have learned alot from this forum. It seems alot of us are having the same problems and we should at least attempt to explain it just a little more in detail if possible. Most of my wife's '99 Suburban problems have been fixed from questions alot of you have asked and I appreciate the help! At times frustration sets in and I'm/we are left hanging, hoping that someone comes up with suggestions ASAP. I apologize if I offend anyone.
Just my :2cents:

ffmike
11-29-2004, 10:54 PM
f#ck yeah!! prech on. I dont type fast enough or well enough to get into details, but I will try harder if you dont mind typos. You know what is the best way to save time and money and frustrations on repairs. Haynes manuals. I buy one for all my vehicles they are so worth the money. You can get them at most any parts stor for around twenty bucks

010175
11-30-2004, 01:32 AM
90% of the questions answers can be found by using the search of the fourm. I happen to know about the DRL diode but did not think of it when I pulled the # 15 fuse. The drain tube runs from the heater box (inside and under the passanger dash) out the fire wall ( under the hood by passangers feet. Dave

Larry Derouin
11-30-2004, 01:41 AM
Concur with ffmike on the Haynes/Chiltons manuals. I've bought one for all of the vehicles I've owned for the last 30 years. They aren't too much different from vehicle to vehicle but the specifications section and the specific sections on the individual vehicle are worth it.

I belong to a Ford forum too (I've got a 1993 F-150 also) and the amount of questions for the same thing over and over again is just astronomical. Some of the older guys get tired of answering the same question over and over again and their answers may get short ie: "change the drl diode" without saying where it actually is.

You would think that some of them (young guys)would be patient enough and do searches to see if someone had the same problem as they had and look for a solution. But the current "ME" generation is also a "ME NOW" generation where the lag time between the question and the answer is shorter and shorter all the time. They want the answer with pictures and a 1000 word disertation on how to do the job. Most of us older (Age wise) guys don't mind helping them out BUT would also like to see them using some brain cells and list problem / solutions, cause and effect, and read some tech manuals, getting some benefit out of it at the same time. Not, "My 4x4 hub won't come off, someone tell me how to get it off....." instead of looking it up in a tech manual and going thru the procedure.

Obviously a condensate drain line won't be at the top of the HVAC casing (look on the bottom of the HVAC system and under the vehicle). and a DRL diode on a 1999 is behind the dash to the right of the column. It's a black heatsink looking thing (black in color) with 2 wires.

There is a wealth of information in these forums, and people need to go looking 1st before asking the questions for the umpteenth time. It's amazing how many similar questions are made without the benefit of using a basic search.

Getting down off my soapbox and having spent my $0.0002 I'll go down to the corner with my homeless placard and make more in 2 days than I do with my monthly Social Security Disability, and Federal Disability retirement checks combined!!! ;^)


Larry

GMMerlin
11-30-2004, 07:55 AM
when someone asks a question(s) about the problems they are having with their vehicles, why is it that (what I think) only half an answer is given. ie...How do you disconnect the DRL? Disconnect the DRL diode, but they don't explain where/what it is...another one...I'm getting water on the passenger side floor...check the drain tube...again it doesn't explain where the tube is...not everyone has a repair manual or posseses mechanical knowledge. We are just trying to save a buck or two and learn as we go. I am not bashing anyone and I really have learned alot from this forum. It seems alot of us are having the same problems and we should at least attempt to explain it just a little more in detail if possible. Most of my wife's '99 Suburban problems have been fixed from questions alot of you have asked and I appreciate the help! At times frustration sets in and I'm/we are left hanging, hoping that someone comes up with suggestions ASAP. I apologize if I offend anyone.
Just my :2cents:

Well since one of your comments was directed at me, I will answer your question and I am not going to apologize for offending you. Why..because I can.
First off let me say that in no way do I condone the disabling of any automotive safety device. The DRLs were installed on your vehicle to make your vehicle more visible to other motorist.
I see tons of posts with people wanting to disable safety devices..ABS brakes, SIR systems, DRLs and others. People these items were installed on vehicles to protect you…but more so to protect me and others on the road from your inability to drive safely.
Yes, while you are talking on your cel, while playing with your PDA, while watching a DVD at the same time listening to Smack Dogg on your thump system, while trying to consume a breakfast biscuit at the same time trying to operate a 3500 lb. Steel box at 20 mph over the speed limit, some of us are trying to avoid you like the plague while we try to ship our precious cargo (our children and other family members) to where ever they need to go without ending up in a wreck.
Secondly if you are going to work on your vehicle, you should possess a service manual of some sort to aid you in the repair process.
These vehicles are complicated and you can cause more damage if you don’t know what you are doing.
I see a ton of posts on here with people slamming dealers and I get sick of it.
I will agree that not all dealers are the best places, but there are a good many out there that will bend over backwards to make sure that you are satisfied with your experience.
Many dealers have just 1 or 2 trained techs and then a bunch of people working there that possess skills no more than a DIY.
I work for a dealer that has 4 GM Master techs, a few very good ASE Master techs and a couple DIYs that get a paycheck…you have a good chance of getting someone that knows what they are doing when you bring your vehicle to us.
On the same lines I have seen tons of posts about people that flat refuse to spend 60-80 dollars to have a qualified tech do a basic diagnosis on their vehicle, but yet will spend hundreds of dollars on parts that don’t solve the problem or many weekends working on their cars trying to fix a simple (relative term) problem with their car.
My favorite is the fact that there are some on here that have no automotive experience, but yet want to argue with some of the techs that come on here offering advice.
I have been working for GM dealers for almost 22 years now..I am a ASE Master Tech and a GM Master Tech ( and 2 certifications away from being World Class) …I think it is safe to say that I may know a little more about GM cars than most of you out there.
I try to give you the best information I can based on what you are describing, published service information, available TSBs and my experience.
Most of your questions can be answered by doing a SEARCH of the forum.
Why are you left hanging..maybe it is because there are already 27 threads on the same issue or the fact that the way it is posted no one can understand what you are talking about.

gregory914
12-01-2004, 08:43 PM
I totaly agree with GMMerlin's comments about Dealers, you can be 99.9% sure you'll get the correct and proprer repair or advice. I also think it helps when you go to a Dealer and tell them what you think the problem may be, but only if you posess a basic knowledge of cars and mechanics. I work with medical equipment and I know that anything made has a written procedure of how to repair and diagnose any problem. The Dealers HAVE TO follow that same procedure to fix your car. However, I Have been told on too many occations that "IT'S NORMAL" only to find out 20k miles later I need a u- joint, rear end bearing, vacuum booster and so on. To the dealers defence, they have covered a few things out of warranty because of the documentation I kept noting the problem.
One last thing. Where in the heck is the cam position sensor located anyway?
THANKS

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