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crayzayjay
02-27-2002, 02:24 PM
Venturi, the little known french company is the French equivalent of Ferrari. Im not quite sure how long it has been around for nor have i ever seen a Venturi, as they are fairly expensive for an unestablished brand. They are supposed to be alternatives to 911's and equivalent ferrari's and do make sense in some ways (exclusivity) except financially. Still, i think both cars are beautiful and the 400GT even reminds me of the F40 in some ways.

Venturi Atlantique 300 (1999)
3l V6Turbo
310bhp@6200RPM
0-60: 5.0s
V-max: 174mph
Weight: 1400kg


Venturi 400GT (1994)
3l V6 Turbo
400bhp@6000RPM
0-60: 3.6s
V-max: 180mph
Weight: 1150kg


You can find some pics of both cars @:

http://users.compaqnet.be/carcollection/Venturi/venturipics.html

cheers,
jay

Hudson
02-28-2002, 01:20 PM
"Unestablished?" I know of many car people who know and admire Venturi (or MVS) products. They've been making sports cars for over 20 years. I never considered them an alternative to Ferrari, but they would be Frances equivalent to TVR and Lotus of England.

crayzayjay
02-28-2002, 06:48 PM
What i mean by unestablished is that they have very little market entry, very little brand awareness... im sure you'll agree that very few people have heard of them, much less so than TVR.

cheers,
jay

JE123
03-09-2002, 11:21 PM
The only way I know about Venturi and TVR is by playing the Gran Turismo series. I really like the cars.

Stefanel1
10-29-2002, 08:17 AM
Alas, crayzayjay is right when he's saying that Venturi is not well known. It sells good cars, but without advertisement. Porsche or Maserati are known all arround the world, and you can see some everywhere. Not Venturi.
That's maybe why the bankeroupted in 2000.
But Gildo Pastor, a rich man living in Monaco bought this make and will sell a new Venturi, the Fétish (www.venturi.fr)
The 300 Atlantic was sold from 97 to 2000.

jsb88
10-29-2002, 09:26 AM
I have heard of these people at some point... The cars are a bit... well... ugly:bloated: though.

Stefanel1
10-29-2002, 02:39 PM
I didn't understand : the Venturi are ugly ??????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????§!!!!!!

jsb88
10-29-2002, 02:43 PM
They are not exactly the best looking pieces of the 80's I have seen...

YellowMaranello
10-29-2002, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by JE123
The only way I know about Venturi and TVR is by playing the Gran Turismo series. I really like the cars.

Gran turismo is how I was first introduced to Venturi, but I leanred about TVR when I joined this board.

crayzayjay
10-29-2002, 09:05 PM
jsb88>

Venturi's are ugly?!??!! :eek: i cant believe someone could think that... i think theyre gorgeous looking cars... they would have probably sold a little better but their price is a little too high when you think they're pitted against 911's and Ferrari's.

Stefanel1>

its good to hear (read ;) ) that someone has bought the company, but i dont understand why one of the big French manufacturers, Renault or Peugeot dont acquire the company... they both need an exclusive/luxury supercar in their portfolio, it would be ideal for Ren or Pug to compete at a level which they havent yet entered.... a bit like FIAT acquiring Maz & Ferrari... the move makes sense to me, it would also improve the image of Renault or Peugeot......... what do u think?

crayzayjay
10-29-2002, 09:15 PM
The Venturi Fetish is very nice looking, some touches are exquisite whereas a few details need to be toned down, perhaps the front of the car... but still, its an outrageous looking car... see for yourself:

http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre/venturi/fetish/2002_venturi_fetish_03_m.jpg


http://www.allsportauto.com/photoautre/venturi/fetish/2002_venturi_fetish_01_m.jpg

more great pictures on this site:
http://www.allsportauto.com/sportphoto.php3?zl_idMD=792

as for the guy calling Venturi's ugly, i promise im not saying this out of spite, but i think they're a prettier take of the Lotus Esprit... just my penny's worth

Stefanel1
10-30-2002, 05:59 AM
I think jsb88 is smoking his floor, or is not likinf the Frenchs : Blair and Jacques Chirac fought Tuesday :D
The Fétish will be less expensive. It will be a competitor of the Lotus Elise and Renault Spider.
I'm agree with you Crayzayjay, Renault or PSA could have bought Venturi, but they didn't because they don't want to take risks. But Fiat took less risks when he bought Ferrari and Maserati : these makes are famous.
But what is surprising is that Renault and moreover Peugeot have big sales, they never earn so much money (benefites), so I don't understand their policy. We'll say that they have maybe some good reasons ;)

jsb88
10-30-2002, 08:58 AM
I like Jaques more then Blair... he is a toss!
I like french cars, just not these ones, the Atlantique's look very simple, and plain. But the fetish looks good!

Stefanel1
10-31-2002, 10:23 AM
It's your opinion, and I respect it ;)

jsb88
10-31-2002, 10:25 AM
Thank you














:(Most world leaders are idiots:(

Stefanel1
10-31-2002, 10:29 AM
No, look, Bush is not idiot... he's actually really stupid :D
But Chirac is the best... without his problems with justice ;) but we like him for that !

jsb88
10-31-2002, 10:31 AM
WOW! a PM with no issues... you are one lucky country.

Stefanel1
10-31-2002, 11:54 AM
a PM ??
What's this ?

jsb88
10-31-2002, 01:47 PM
Prime Minister... you know the guy who runs the country... in Britain.

jsb88
10-31-2002, 01:47 PM
Prime Minister... you know the guy who runs the country in Britain.

jsb88
10-31-2002, 01:47 PM
Prime Minister... you know the guy who runs the country in Britain.

jsb88
10-31-2002, 01:47 PM
Prime Minister... you know the guy who runs the country in Britain.

jsb88
10-31-2002, 01:47 PM
Prime Minister... you know the guy who runs the country in Britain.

Stefanel1
11-02-2002, 07:57 AM
OK, I've understood :D I don't speak well english so I don't understand already all the contractions ;)
Chirac is the President... Raffarin the "PM".

jsb88
11-02-2002, 07:59 AM
Sorry about it showing 5-10 times... I don't know what happened there.

Cbass
11-23-2002, 11:55 AM
5 posts... I think you've just won a nomination for top AF postwhore... ;)

Most world leaders are intelligent and calculating, and often play an image of being more common and average, it is indearing to their constituents. Look at Bush, this is a guy who can't get common sayings right, attempts to quantify things in "good" and "evil", but they still love him... It's all in the public relations, and Bush has a VERY good team working for him, as the entire US press is sympathetic to the government. I watched a 5 minute article on CNN, glorifying Bush as some champion of the working man, and trying to play him out EXACTLY like some old filmstar cowboy.

OTHO, in Canada we have Jean Chretien, who has been a good prime minister, but the media is controlled by the opposition here, and they blast him over EVERYTHING. He has very bad public relations, because he has the media working against him.

jsb88
11-23-2002, 12:34 PM
The media is far too powerful :D I want the Sun on my side!

Cbass
11-24-2002, 02:33 PM
I think one of the saddest defeats of the human spirit is the system in place now. From birth people are told to do as they are told, and to believe what they are told. It works fairly well, and makes for a good society, but the problem comes when the people who tell them the most are manipulating them towards their own goals...

I don't know if you get any American channels in England, but I get them all here... except HBO, because that would cost more( :D ). I get to see the American media in full effect, and it scares me. If you watch enough CNN, you can tell what the US government is going to be doing in a year, because they will start influencing public opinion through the supposedly authoritative news source...

I'm hoping to move to the UK after I get my education, to get my citizenship... after that I'd like to move to northern Italy...

Jimster
11-25-2002, 02:30 AM
blech.....When I saw that picture Stephanel posted I thought I was looking at a Toyotya MR2 :D

Stefanel1
11-25-2002, 03:00 PM
which picture ?

Chris
11-25-2002, 03:09 PM
I had never heard of venturi:( Except for that it is an aerodynamic concept that allows F1 cars to get tons (literally) of grip.

The Elise-competetor seems to be very good, except I dont like the rear end, it looks like it was hit with a shovel, pushing it all upward. If they can get the price/performance/quality nailed, they will have a winner (gee, how simple does that sound:D )

Jimster
11-25-2002, 06:14 PM
Stephanel- the black Atlantique


Chris- You haven't tried GT2 yet??? :huh:

jsb88
11-26-2002, 08:10 AM
I have watched CNN before over here, and it is truly scary the way they manipulate you. :eek:

Stefanel1
11-26-2002, 11:32 AM
mmh.... it doesn't look like an MR...

crayzayjay
11-26-2002, 03:08 PM
Venturi Atlantique, Toyota MR2? :confused:

No!

Chris
11-26-2002, 03:13 PM
No, I haven't been arsed to try it. I have a PS2, so I do GT3. Plus, right now, I work 30 hours a week + school, so my time is 'limited'.

Yeah, CNN is crap, I watch BBC for my world news. They actually look at the other side!

crayzayjay
11-26-2002, 03:30 PM
You cant beat the Beeb... shame they dont show any porno.... hey! who said that? :cwn27:

jsb88
11-27-2002, 11:40 AM
Actually they did at one point in a murder series on late at night. I cannot remember it, but it was about this man elecrocuting his next door neighbours in a jacuzzi. It was really good... If their is ever a re-run you should watch it... and not for the porn either. ;)

crayzayjay
11-27-2002, 04:19 PM
i should watch it for the electrocuting ???? :eek:

jsb88
11-28-2002, 05:37 AM
no it is just very clever the way he gets away with it. a very good story, only you follow in the eyes of the perpetrator. :)

crayzayjay
11-28-2002, 02:01 PM
... and the name of this programme?

jsb88
11-30-2002, 10:22 AM
I couldn't remember then, but it is Murder in Mind.

crayzayjay
11-30-2002, 10:47 AM
ill keep an eye out for it ;)

jsb88
12-06-2002, 07:52 AM
I am positive there will be a re-run soon. :)

crayzayjay
12-07-2002, 09:53 PM
Stop! youre getting my hopes up :hehe:

jsb88
12-08-2002, 06:47 AM
request it. they let you some times. :)

Cbass
12-08-2002, 09:52 AM
My neighbour electrocuted himself using a heating element in his bath tub... he had natural gas for his water heater, and thought the electricty would be cheaper for a bath... I used to live on a pretty weird street, which is odd in its self, as it was the nicest part of the nicest town in the area...

crayzayjay
12-08-2002, 07:23 PM
a heating element eh, *wink wink :D

Cbass
12-09-2002, 12:33 AM
Yes, apparently he killed himself this way... I frankly don't see how he could have done it, and suspect it was his wife...

jsb88
01-16-2003, 10:55 AM
The best part... one dreads to think about the worst!

crayzayjay
01-16-2003, 11:22 AM
Either way, not a nice way to go

Cbass
01-17-2003, 01:53 AM
No, not at all... his wife found him, and he was all cooked and puffed up :o

crayzayjay
01-17-2003, 08:13 AM
damn... and all for trying to save a few pennies :(

jsb88
01-17-2003, 11:33 AM
Well maybe if he hadn't been doing that then he would have not been able to afford food, so would have to sell his flat and become homeless (if mortgage or rented) You have to look at the bigger picture, after all we dont no anything about this man.

Cbass
01-17-2003, 05:32 PM
I secretly suspect his wife was just trying to kill him ;)

crayzayjay
01-17-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by jsb88
Well maybe if he hadn't been doing that then he would have not been able to afford food, so would have to sell his flat and become homeless (if mortgage or rented) You have to look at the bigger picture, after all we dont no anything about this man.

True

Cbass
01-19-2003, 09:18 AM
Well, I live in a fairly rural area, Comox has about 5000 residents, and there are perhaps 40,000 in the surrounding area. Land is cheap out here, my big house in the best neighborhood cost $130K when we bought it, and we sold it for around $150K 13 years later.

These are Canadian dollars, so that works out to something to the order of 60-70K pounds. I guess it would also be equal to around $90K USD, or Euros.

They seemed somewhat prosperous...

jsb88
01-19-2003, 03:09 PM
Insuranse Scam!!!! maybe she insured hit for a lot before his death!!!!!!!! CAUGHT IN THE ACT :p

crayzayjay
01-20-2003, 09:29 AM
Let's not speculate. we really dont know anything

jsb88
01-20-2003, 11:13 AM
I know. :( Have you ever read the Darwin Awards book, how dub humans met their creator? some people jumped into a river to save a ckicken and 7 of them died... - chicken survives.

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