HOW TO: Remove Front/Rear Dash and Install Deck, Remove Door Panels
Classicrocjunkie
11-22-2004, 10:50 PM
Well after gettin annoyed seeing soo many posts on how to install a deck and remove the front dash along with rear, i'm going to once again take a load of time and write somthing up for you all...
This should be good for 95-05 cavaliers
Front Dash removal...
I will rate this a medium on skill range. For the removal you will need the following.
1)7mm socket
2) Patience
Lets begin;
1)Take out both cover pieces at either end of the dash (pop them out with a screwdriver). Also remove the one bolt for each side. Placement shown by circles on pictures.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-03.jpg
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-05.jpg
2)Unscrew the centre defroster vent on top of the dash, then pop it up with a screwdriver and remove the two bolts underneath it.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-08.jpg
3)Open the glove box and there will be 3 bolts (black) shown in pictures with circles. Also there are two brass bolts be careful not to drop them.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-06.jpg
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-07.jpg
4)The dash top will now be loose and will be able to be removed. Wiggle it loose above the gauge area because there are a few small clips that hold it together.
5)Once the dash cover is off, you must remove the 3 bolts that hold down the trim plate around the radio and gauges. There are also clips all the way around it so (take your time because the trim plate will break fairly easily) just gently pry it loose with a small screwdriver. Pull the trim plate back and you will have access to the gauge cluster and your radio.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-09.jpg
6) Since you don't want to cut the dimmer switch, carefully manuver to sit on top of the exposed vitals of the dash and be sure not to puncture the air bag...
7)... Reinstall in reverse order.....
Aftermarket deck install....
1) With the dashed removed, there should be 2 screws holding the facotory deck in place remove these 2, and deck will slide freely out to a certain point.
2) Out of the back of the deck there is a wire harness and antena..
"If you have a pre-2000 car.. this doesn't apply to you
If you have a 2000+ J-Body then your factory head unit/radio/cd player/stereo/whatever is a CLASS 2 unit. Class 2 radios are wired differently than anything most stereo installers have dealt with.. and there's a LOT of misinformation out there about them.
Here's EVERYTHING you should need to know about them:
1. If you remove the factory radio from the car.. you will lose your factory door chimes and OnStar (if you even have it). That's it! Proof.. from YOUR owners manual:
http://members.cox.net/kevinrogers99/chime.jpg
Removing the factory deck will NOT affect your airbags (it's a separate circuit entirely!), your DRLs (also separate), your cruise control (again, separate), your oil change light (you don't even have one!), your sex life (well, maybe)...
If anyone tells you otherwise.. THEY ARE WRONG! (Feel free to tell them this. Better yet... let me tell them this!)
2. If you WANT to keep your factory door chimes and/or OnStar... you need to either relocate the factory deck using a T-harness or replace the factory deck with a new module for the chimes and OnStar speaker.
3. If you don't give a crap about factory chimes.. you can buy a $15 harness and hook it up using that! You don't have to spend $100 or more on a T-harness and relocate the factory deck. Your airbags WILL still work.
Of course.. you'll also need a deck mounting kit.. and a GM antenna adapter.. and whatever harness you choose that you need.
Want to know more? Go to my web page!
http://members.shaw.ca/johnz24/howto/2kaudio.html
I hope that helps some of you.. remember, don't believe everything you read... there's a LOT of misinformation out there.
...j "
~John Lenko ^ JBO
Now with all that 2000+ year crap covered... The actual wiring of all this together can be found in the install kits or when your purchase a deck from www.crutchfield.com they send all you the info free of charge..
Rear dash removal...
1) Lower the back seat, and remove the 4 clips that hold the plastic trim pieces to the rear dash.
2) Next, remove the 2 plastic trim pieces. To do this, pull them slightly toward you, and angle them toward the ground. The small clips that hold them in will pop out of place.
3) Pull the rear seat belts through the slots in the back deck, and then pull the slots inward a bit. This will allow the piece of rear deck that is under the sides to come free.
4) Now just start pulling, and jiggling it a bit. You may also need to bend the centre of the dash up slightly, being careful not to crease it. It will eventually slide out.
5)If you are trying to remove the rear speakers, simply push in the little clips that are facing you. You will need to disconnect the speaker wire connection. The factory speakers are held in by 4 screws. Remove those and the factory speakers will pop right out.
6) The Rear Speakers Are 6X9's, but you can either make or buy adapters so you can use a component speaker system.
7) Reinstall in reverse.
Door pannels....
1)Roll the window down. This will make replacing the door panel easier and put things into view better
2)Remove the screw that holds the triangle-shaped plastic piece over the mirror bolts.
3)Next, go down to the door handle grip, and remove the 2 7mm screws out of there.
4)Go along the outside edge of the door panel and remove all those screws.
5)If you have power locks, you will need to disconnect the wires that run to the lock switch. Simply pop the trim piece out that holds the power lock switch, and disconnect it.
6)If you have manual windows, you will need to get the GM tool to remove the window cranks.
7)Now the only thing stopping you is the clips that run along the top edge, by the window. Gently pull up, and rock the entire door panel side to side.
8)When you are putting the door panels back on, be sure to get all those little clips at the top of the door back on and make sure they are tight, otherwise the door panel won't sit right.
With all that said.. There shouldn't be anymore posts about how to install or remove front/rear dash, door pannels or deck installation.
Kudos (credits) to;
John Lenko-2000+ issue
Team forward motion- removal pics and some steps
Me (CRJ)- re wording it all so that it can be easy for lamens
This should be good for 95-05 cavaliers
Front Dash removal...
I will rate this a medium on skill range. For the removal you will need the following.
1)7mm socket
2) Patience
Lets begin;
1)Take out both cover pieces at either end of the dash (pop them out with a screwdriver). Also remove the one bolt for each side. Placement shown by circles on pictures.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-03.jpg
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-05.jpg
2)Unscrew the centre defroster vent on top of the dash, then pop it up with a screwdriver and remove the two bolts underneath it.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-08.jpg
3)Open the glove box and there will be 3 bolts (black) shown in pictures with circles. Also there are two brass bolts be careful not to drop them.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-06.jpg
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-07.jpg
4)The dash top will now be loose and will be able to be removed. Wiggle it loose above the gauge area because there are a few small clips that hold it together.
5)Once the dash cover is off, you must remove the 3 bolts that hold down the trim plate around the radio and gauges. There are also clips all the way around it so (take your time because the trim plate will break fairly easily) just gently pry it loose with a small screwdriver. Pull the trim plate back and you will have access to the gauge cluster and your radio.
http://www.teamforwardmotion.com/tfmtech/j-body/audio/images/dash_removal/dash-09.jpg
6) Since you don't want to cut the dimmer switch, carefully manuver to sit on top of the exposed vitals of the dash and be sure not to puncture the air bag...
7)... Reinstall in reverse order.....
Aftermarket deck install....
1) With the dashed removed, there should be 2 screws holding the facotory deck in place remove these 2, and deck will slide freely out to a certain point.
2) Out of the back of the deck there is a wire harness and antena..
"If you have a pre-2000 car.. this doesn't apply to you
If you have a 2000+ J-Body then your factory head unit/radio/cd player/stereo/whatever is a CLASS 2 unit. Class 2 radios are wired differently than anything most stereo installers have dealt with.. and there's a LOT of misinformation out there about them.
Here's EVERYTHING you should need to know about them:
1. If you remove the factory radio from the car.. you will lose your factory door chimes and OnStar (if you even have it). That's it! Proof.. from YOUR owners manual:
http://members.cox.net/kevinrogers99/chime.jpg
Removing the factory deck will NOT affect your airbags (it's a separate circuit entirely!), your DRLs (also separate), your cruise control (again, separate), your oil change light (you don't even have one!), your sex life (well, maybe)...
If anyone tells you otherwise.. THEY ARE WRONG! (Feel free to tell them this. Better yet... let me tell them this!)
2. If you WANT to keep your factory door chimes and/or OnStar... you need to either relocate the factory deck using a T-harness or replace the factory deck with a new module for the chimes and OnStar speaker.
3. If you don't give a crap about factory chimes.. you can buy a $15 harness and hook it up using that! You don't have to spend $100 or more on a T-harness and relocate the factory deck. Your airbags WILL still work.
Of course.. you'll also need a deck mounting kit.. and a GM antenna adapter.. and whatever harness you choose that you need.
Want to know more? Go to my web page!
http://members.shaw.ca/johnz24/howto/2kaudio.html
I hope that helps some of you.. remember, don't believe everything you read... there's a LOT of misinformation out there.
...j "
~John Lenko ^ JBO
Now with all that 2000+ year crap covered... The actual wiring of all this together can be found in the install kits or when your purchase a deck from www.crutchfield.com they send all you the info free of charge..
Rear dash removal...
1) Lower the back seat, and remove the 4 clips that hold the plastic trim pieces to the rear dash.
2) Next, remove the 2 plastic trim pieces. To do this, pull them slightly toward you, and angle them toward the ground. The small clips that hold them in will pop out of place.
3) Pull the rear seat belts through the slots in the back deck, and then pull the slots inward a bit. This will allow the piece of rear deck that is under the sides to come free.
4) Now just start pulling, and jiggling it a bit. You may also need to bend the centre of the dash up slightly, being careful not to crease it. It will eventually slide out.
5)If you are trying to remove the rear speakers, simply push in the little clips that are facing you. You will need to disconnect the speaker wire connection. The factory speakers are held in by 4 screws. Remove those and the factory speakers will pop right out.
6) The Rear Speakers Are 6X9's, but you can either make or buy adapters so you can use a component speaker system.
7) Reinstall in reverse.
Door pannels....
1)Roll the window down. This will make replacing the door panel easier and put things into view better
2)Remove the screw that holds the triangle-shaped plastic piece over the mirror bolts.
3)Next, go down to the door handle grip, and remove the 2 7mm screws out of there.
4)Go along the outside edge of the door panel and remove all those screws.
5)If you have power locks, you will need to disconnect the wires that run to the lock switch. Simply pop the trim piece out that holds the power lock switch, and disconnect it.
6)If you have manual windows, you will need to get the GM tool to remove the window cranks.
7)Now the only thing stopping you is the clips that run along the top edge, by the window. Gently pull up, and rock the entire door panel side to side.
8)When you are putting the door panels back on, be sure to get all those little clips at the top of the door back on and make sure they are tight, otherwise the door panel won't sit right.
With all that said.. There shouldn't be anymore posts about how to install or remove front/rear dash, door pannels or deck installation.
Kudos (credits) to;
John Lenko-2000+ issue
Team forward motion- removal pics and some steps
Me (CRJ)- re wording it all so that it can be easy for lamens
Classicrocjunkie
11-22-2004, 11:08 PM
If i left anything out besides the actual wiring it up of it all... let me know and i'll add it..
1 more thing i forgot.. when connecting the wire harnesses.. please don't use wire crimps or wire nuts.. i've seen it too often where they have come undone and taking the dash apart gets annyoing over time..... Soder the wires and black tape them off....
1 more thing i forgot.. when connecting the wire harnesses.. please don't use wire crimps or wire nuts.. i've seen it too often where they have come undone and taking the dash apart gets annyoing over time..... Soder the wires and black tape them off....
movin2stereo
11-23-2004, 04:03 PM
I never had a problem with crimps(butt connectors).Just make sure you have a good tool that crimps tight.
KustmAce
11-24-2004, 06:35 PM
Stuck, though you spelled "panel" wrong, but dont worry, I fixed it for you!
:wink:
:wink:
Classicrocjunkie
11-27-2004, 08:51 PM
Thanks Tim, this should help out with the amount of posts about dash removal..... probably not considering we make them Stickys and Newbies still post....
cko
11-28-2004, 12:46 AM
Hi, I tried to remove the rear speakers from a 1997 Cavalier. However, when I took the side plastic panel out, I broke the pin inside. I found out that you couldn't just remove the plastic panel by pulling. Can anyone help me out? Please tell me how to remove the rear speakers. Thanks in advance.
93_R/T_TT_Stealth
11-28-2004, 01:55 AM
Hi, I tried to remove the rear speakers from a 1997 Cavalier. However, when I took the side plastic panel out, I broke the pin inside. I found out that you couldn't just remove the plastic panel by pulling. Can anyone help me out? Please tell me how to remove the rear speakers. Thanks in advance.
lesson 1 - dont just pull things apart - if you dont know what ur doin - cause for example u broke something - most people know that just about 90% of cars these days have interiors held together by - clips-self retaining pressure plug screws - push pins- snap tabs ect... - if you dont know what ur doin ask b4 u do it - or open a damn manual for gods sake or check online for a diagram or a manual - someone or something will always help ya out - other wise u gonna be driving around in a car full of broken rubble an cracked panels an broken moldings an shit- dont just get antsy an pullshit until u hear *crack* or snap .... i mean look Classic was nice enough to post all this info an now its almost worthless because u were thickheaded an did something b4 u knew - so u basically fucked it up man...now u have broken items an u are mostlikly gonna have to get new or salvaged replacements- Good Luck!
:smokin:
lesson 1 - dont just pull things apart - if you dont know what ur doin - cause for example u broke something - most people know that just about 90% of cars these days have interiors held together by - clips-self retaining pressure plug screws - push pins- snap tabs ect... - if you dont know what ur doin ask b4 u do it - or open a damn manual for gods sake or check online for a diagram or a manual - someone or something will always help ya out - other wise u gonna be driving around in a car full of broken rubble an cracked panels an broken moldings an shit- dont just get antsy an pullshit until u hear *crack* or snap .... i mean look Classic was nice enough to post all this info an now its almost worthless because u were thickheaded an did something b4 u knew - so u basically fucked it up man...now u have broken items an u are mostlikly gonna have to get new or salvaged replacements- Good Luck!
:smokin:
Classicrocjunkie
11-28-2004, 04:33 PM
lesson 1 - dont just pull things apart - if you dont know what ur doin - cause for example u broke something - most people know that just about 90% of cars these days have interiors held together by - clips-self retaining pressure plug screws - push pins- snap tabs ect... - if you dont know what ur doin ask b4 u do it - or open a damn manual for gods sake or check online for a diagram or a manual - someone or something will always help ya out - other wise u gonna be driving around in a car full of broken rubble an cracked panels an broken moldings an shit- dont just get antsy an pullshit until u hear *crack* or snap .... i mean look Classic was nice enough to post all this info an now its almost worthless because u were thickheaded an did something b4 u knew - so u basically fucked it up man...now u have broken items an u are mostlikly gonna have to get new or salvaged replacements- Good Luck!
:smokin:
Thats one way to get a point across... but when removing the side pannel, you can feel tension around where the clips are. Get your hand right under there and brace it better... as for your broken part... your SOL... live with it or junkyard or buy a new GM piece....
:smokin:
Thats one way to get a point across... but when removing the side pannel, you can feel tension around where the clips are. Get your hand right under there and brace it better... as for your broken part... your SOL... live with it or junkyard or buy a new GM piece....
cko
11-28-2004, 07:18 PM
REPLY to 93_R/T_TT_Stealth
1) Research - From Jbody, Forward Motions, or this forum, there are not much information about removing the rear dash. It is lacking of details on removing the rear dash online. On the other hand, removing the front dash contains lots of details from Brad Marx and Vincent Keene. Moreover, rear plastic trims are different to different years of J-Body.
2) Dash Diagram - Show me an online rear dash diagram. You can NOT find it. Did your research before bullshit! Do NOT just saying something that just in your mind, and NOT existing in this world. There is NO such thing of online diagram. Bull Shit!
3) Resources - I have a manual, a Cavalier expect to ask, and to work with. If I got so many resources, what's the point of setting up a forum and posting instructions online? If I got so many resources, I don't need to talk to a jerk like you.
4) Experiences - You won't know anything by just looking at a book. I can't imagine someone still thinks reading a manual can tell you everything. Come on, Do it yourself is the only way to learn.
5) Expert - Be realistic, NOT everyone is an expert. If yes, what a wonderful world! Are you an expert of Cavalier? I DON"T think so!
6) Car - I just asked for suggestions and advices. NOT your personal opinions! It's my car. It's not your fucking business of which part I broke. And you don't even have a clue which part I broke.
7) Cavalier - How much you know about Cavalier? Have you removed a rear dash? You know how it looks like when you remove it? How's the thing is designed? What's the different between different years of JBody? You didn't even say one thing that is related to Cavalier and the rear dash. Don't just post useless shit online.
8) Listen 93_R/T_TT_Stealth - FUCK YOU
Thanks for Classicrocjunkie for posting the instructions and your replies. However, due to a stupid asshole, I am not going to visit this forum again.
1) Research - From Jbody, Forward Motions, or this forum, there are not much information about removing the rear dash. It is lacking of details on removing the rear dash online. On the other hand, removing the front dash contains lots of details from Brad Marx and Vincent Keene. Moreover, rear plastic trims are different to different years of J-Body.
2) Dash Diagram - Show me an online rear dash diagram. You can NOT find it. Did your research before bullshit! Do NOT just saying something that just in your mind, and NOT existing in this world. There is NO such thing of online diagram. Bull Shit!
3) Resources - I have a manual, a Cavalier expect to ask, and to work with. If I got so many resources, what's the point of setting up a forum and posting instructions online? If I got so many resources, I don't need to talk to a jerk like you.
4) Experiences - You won't know anything by just looking at a book. I can't imagine someone still thinks reading a manual can tell you everything. Come on, Do it yourself is the only way to learn.
5) Expert - Be realistic, NOT everyone is an expert. If yes, what a wonderful world! Are you an expert of Cavalier? I DON"T think so!
6) Car - I just asked for suggestions and advices. NOT your personal opinions! It's my car. It's not your fucking business of which part I broke. And you don't even have a clue which part I broke.
7) Cavalier - How much you know about Cavalier? Have you removed a rear dash? You know how it looks like when you remove it? How's the thing is designed? What's the different between different years of JBody? You didn't even say one thing that is related to Cavalier and the rear dash. Don't just post useless shit online.
8) Listen 93_R/T_TT_Stealth - FUCK YOU
Thanks for Classicrocjunkie for posting the instructions and your replies. However, due to a stupid asshole, I am not going to visit this forum again.
93_R/T_TT_Stealth
11-28-2004, 09:45 PM
REPLY to 93_R/T_TT_Stealth
1) Research - From Jbody, Forward Motions, or this forum, there are not much information about removing the rear dash. It is lacking of details on removing the rear dash online. On the other hand, removing the front dash contains lots of details from Brad Marx and Vincent Keene. Moreover, rear plastic trims are different to different years of J-Body.
2) Dash Diagram - Show me an online rear dash diagram. You can NOT find it. Did your research before bullshit! Do NOT just saying something that just in your mind, and NOT existing in this world. There is NO such thing of online diagram. Bull Shit!
3) Resources - I have a manual, a Cavalier expect to ask, and to work with. If I got so many resources, what's the point of setting up a forum and posting instructions online? If I got so many resources, I don't need to talk to a jerk like you.
4) Experiences - You won't know anything by just looking at a book. I can't imagine someone still thinks reading a manual can tell you everything. Come on, Do it yourself is the only way to learn.
5) Expert - Be realistic, NOT everyone is an expert. If yes, what a wonderful world! Are you an expert of Cavalier? I DON"T think so!
6) Car - I just asked for suggestions and advices. NOT your personal opinions! It's my car. It's not your fucking business of which part I broke. And you don't even have a clue which part I broke.
7) Cavalier - How much you know about Cavalier? Have you removed a rear dash? You know how it looks like when you remove it? How's the thing is designed? What's the different between different years of JBody? You didn't even say one thing that is related to Cavalier and the rear dash. Don't just post useless shit online.
8) Listen 93_R/T_TT_Stealth - FUCK YOU
Thanks for Classicrocjunkie for posting the instructions and your replies. However, due to a stupid asshole, I am not going to visit this forum again.
wow ya dont have to take it out on me cause u are impataint an break shit cause u dont know what your doin - there is diagrams alot of the time u have to pay like a buck or 2 to get them but to me if i didnt know what i was doin a few bucks would be worth it rather than having broken shit in one of my cars ...
dont go down on me like i am the idiot - ur the one that broke ur parts buddy - nobody to blame but yourself-
an hey thanks for the #8 rule or w/e u call it - it doesnt bother me that u say fuck you or w/e is on your mind - i am not gonna go commit suicide or anything cause some amature newbie is tryin to talk shit to me.... :grinno:
they also make a tool for removing the clips it looks like a pry bar with a a flat angled end with a notch in it - in the store they list it as a door panel removal tool ... i think ya can get one for like $10 - they dont cost all that much - pick one up it will help out on alot of things when your dis-assembling them... good luck-
1) Research - From Jbody, Forward Motions, or this forum, there are not much information about removing the rear dash. It is lacking of details on removing the rear dash online. On the other hand, removing the front dash contains lots of details from Brad Marx and Vincent Keene. Moreover, rear plastic trims are different to different years of J-Body.
2) Dash Diagram - Show me an online rear dash diagram. You can NOT find it. Did your research before bullshit! Do NOT just saying something that just in your mind, and NOT existing in this world. There is NO such thing of online diagram. Bull Shit!
3) Resources - I have a manual, a Cavalier expect to ask, and to work with. If I got so many resources, what's the point of setting up a forum and posting instructions online? If I got so many resources, I don't need to talk to a jerk like you.
4) Experiences - You won't know anything by just looking at a book. I can't imagine someone still thinks reading a manual can tell you everything. Come on, Do it yourself is the only way to learn.
5) Expert - Be realistic, NOT everyone is an expert. If yes, what a wonderful world! Are you an expert of Cavalier? I DON"T think so!
6) Car - I just asked for suggestions and advices. NOT your personal opinions! It's my car. It's not your fucking business of which part I broke. And you don't even have a clue which part I broke.
7) Cavalier - How much you know about Cavalier? Have you removed a rear dash? You know how it looks like when you remove it? How's the thing is designed? What's the different between different years of JBody? You didn't even say one thing that is related to Cavalier and the rear dash. Don't just post useless shit online.
8) Listen 93_R/T_TT_Stealth - FUCK YOU
Thanks for Classicrocjunkie for posting the instructions and your replies. However, due to a stupid asshole, I am not going to visit this forum again.
wow ya dont have to take it out on me cause u are impataint an break shit cause u dont know what your doin - there is diagrams alot of the time u have to pay like a buck or 2 to get them but to me if i didnt know what i was doin a few bucks would be worth it rather than having broken shit in one of my cars ...
dont go down on me like i am the idiot - ur the one that broke ur parts buddy - nobody to blame but yourself-
an hey thanks for the #8 rule or w/e u call it - it doesnt bother me that u say fuck you or w/e is on your mind - i am not gonna go commit suicide or anything cause some amature newbie is tryin to talk shit to me.... :grinno:
they also make a tool for removing the clips it looks like a pry bar with a a flat angled end with a notch in it - in the store they list it as a door panel removal tool ... i think ya can get one for like $10 - they dont cost all that much - pick one up it will help out on alot of things when your dis-assembling them... good luck-
93_R/T_TT_Stealth
11-28-2004, 09:51 PM
an as for the info on removal why would i say anything crj just did a big post on the removal of rear dash?
even when its a car that i am for say puttin in a stereo system that i have not much knowledge about i will look it over until i am cofident that i am not goin to destroy someone esles shit - i can think of a time that i really had an issue with unless its external on the car an the shit is seized or rusted on - even then i usually put a lil pb blaster on it an in a few minutes it comes of fine.. so dont act like i am puttin useless info on here when what i said was in a post that was already fully explained by someone else - :confused:
even when its a car that i am for say puttin in a stereo system that i have not much knowledge about i will look it over until i am cofident that i am not goin to destroy someone esles shit - i can think of a time that i really had an issue with unless its external on the car an the shit is seized or rusted on - even then i usually put a lil pb blaster on it an in a few minutes it comes of fine.. so dont act like i am puttin useless info on here when what i said was in a post that was already fully explained by someone else - :confused:
KustmAce
11-30-2004, 07:34 PM
REPLY to 93_R/T_TT_Stealth
1) Research - From Jbody, Forward Motions, or this forum, there are not much information about removing the rear dash. It is lacking of details on removing the rear dash online. On the other hand, removing the front dash contains lots of details from Brad Marx and Vincent Keene. Moreover, rear plastic trims are different to different years of J-Body.
2) Dash Diagram - Show me an online rear dash diagram. You can NOT find it. Did your research before bullshit! Do NOT just saying something that just in your mind, and NOT existing in this world. There is NO such thing of online diagram. Bull Shit!
3) Resources - I have a manual, a Cavalier expect to ask, and to work with. If I got so many resources, what's the point of setting up a forum and posting instructions online? If I got so many resources, I don't need to talk to a jerk like you.
4) Experiences - You won't know anything by just looking at a book. I can't imagine someone still thinks reading a manual can tell you everything. Come on, Do it yourself is the only way to learn.
5) Expert - Be realistic, NOT everyone is an expert. If yes, what a wonderful world! Are you an expert of Cavalier? I DON"T think so!
6) Car - I just asked for suggestions and advices. NOT your personal opinions! It's my car. It's not your fucking business of which part I broke. And you don't even have a clue which part I broke.
7) Cavalier - How much you know about Cavalier? Have you removed a rear dash? You know how it looks like when you remove it? How's the thing is designed? What's the different between different years of JBody? You didn't even say one thing that is related to Cavalier and the rear dash. Don't just post useless shit online.
8) Listen 93_R/T_TT_Stealth - FUCK YOU
Thanks for Classicrocjunkie for posting the instructions and your replies. However, due to a stupid asshole, I am not going to visit this forum again.
Don't just post useless shit online.
:lol2: Irony, anyone?
I am not going to visit this forum again
Promise?
Now, everyone, stop whoring up this sticky! I hate pruning threads, and I dont want to have to do it to this one.
1) Research - From Jbody, Forward Motions, or this forum, there are not much information about removing the rear dash. It is lacking of details on removing the rear dash online. On the other hand, removing the front dash contains lots of details from Brad Marx and Vincent Keene. Moreover, rear plastic trims are different to different years of J-Body.
2) Dash Diagram - Show me an online rear dash diagram. You can NOT find it. Did your research before bullshit! Do NOT just saying something that just in your mind, and NOT existing in this world. There is NO such thing of online diagram. Bull Shit!
3) Resources - I have a manual, a Cavalier expect to ask, and to work with. If I got so many resources, what's the point of setting up a forum and posting instructions online? If I got so many resources, I don't need to talk to a jerk like you.
4) Experiences - You won't know anything by just looking at a book. I can't imagine someone still thinks reading a manual can tell you everything. Come on, Do it yourself is the only way to learn.
5) Expert - Be realistic, NOT everyone is an expert. If yes, what a wonderful world! Are you an expert of Cavalier? I DON"T think so!
6) Car - I just asked for suggestions and advices. NOT your personal opinions! It's my car. It's not your fucking business of which part I broke. And you don't even have a clue which part I broke.
7) Cavalier - How much you know about Cavalier? Have you removed a rear dash? You know how it looks like when you remove it? How's the thing is designed? What's the different between different years of JBody? You didn't even say one thing that is related to Cavalier and the rear dash. Don't just post useless shit online.
8) Listen 93_R/T_TT_Stealth - FUCK YOU
Thanks for Classicrocjunkie for posting the instructions and your replies. However, due to a stupid asshole, I am not going to visit this forum again.
Don't just post useless shit online.
:lol2: Irony, anyone?
I am not going to visit this forum again
Promise?
Now, everyone, stop whoring up this sticky! I hate pruning threads, and I dont want to have to do it to this one.
Classicrocjunkie
11-30-2004, 09:14 PM
Thanks Tim!...
blitz/littledevil
12-28-2004, 11:08 AM
wow that first part was helpful now i wont totally screw up everything when i try to wire my new system to my deck it was well put
and yeh that cko guy is a total dickhead and shouldnt be let near acar obviously
and yeh that cko guy is a total dickhead and shouldnt be let near acar obviously
fastlane1588
12-31-2004, 07:43 AM
hey cko guess what buddy everything that Classicrocjunkie and 93_R/T_TT_Stealth said are true, because i had ciruit city do a free in stall on my sterio system and i watched and guess what.....they did it exactly the way 93_R/T_TT_Stealth and clasicrocjunkie said to do it so i think its u who needs to fuck off and not them
Naimluss
01-16-2005, 08:43 PM
as for me last few times i changed my radio i had to buy a dash kit to fit the Din radio in the dash and it has instructions to remove and replace the radio
and i plan on changing the speakers sometime at least in back so i can hook them to an amp
and i plan on changing the speakers sometime at least in back so i can hook them to an amp
95cavalierkid
03-27-2005, 11:20 PM
cko? what the hell is wrong with you? and for your information there IS online diagrams u just have to fuckng look around for em, and i thought u wern't going to visit this forum again?
blitz/littledevil
05-15-2005, 06:21 PM
soo how do you get behind the whole hvac front panel? i want to put a neon light behind there to light up the clear knobs i just made blue rather then white like they usually do
bh04
05-18-2005, 10:33 PM
So I have my deck installed right now, and I got the adapter to get rid of the beeps when my lights and door is open.....where can i get that deal to get those beeps/chimes back? Price?
01Cavy
05-18-2005, 10:59 PM
I bought a wire harness from www.crutchfield.com for I think $80.
MoNiCa x OC
05-31-2005, 04:45 PM
So lemme get this straight-I need to disable my airabgs before removing my dash to install a head unit?
Classicrocjunkie
05-31-2005, 11:32 PM
you don't have to. But its a good idea. Just be careful.
Chucklez
06-05-2005, 01:45 PM
I ran across this while looking up information.
Class 2 data buss adapter
http://www.installer.com/cars/chevrolet.html
allows you to install an aftermarket deck, and keep the chimes.
Class 2 data buss adapter
http://www.installer.com/cars/chevrolet.html
allows you to install an aftermarket deck, and keep the chimes.
vhouse43
06-23-2005, 04:36 PM
2002 Cavalier with airbag--How do I separate the dash panel from the air bag cover?
quake61
07-03-2005, 12:18 PM
wow that first part was helpful now i wont totally screw up everything when i try to wire my new system to my deck it was well put
and yeh that cko guy is a total dickhead and shouldnt be let near acar obviously
well just for once i am gona say something here
that guy classicrockjunkie have helped everyone without getting anything in return
damn i mean it who else is going to look at all threads and use his own time to help someone who is screwing his own shit and then geting pissed?
i have had a few questions here and he as some other ppl have helped me
damn it if someone dont apreciate being helped then i advise that such person install a bomb in his car and blow it with him inside
in a brief manner go bother someone else
lmao :screwy:
and yeh that cko guy is a total dickhead and shouldnt be let near acar obviously
well just for once i am gona say something here
that guy classicrockjunkie have helped everyone without getting anything in return
damn i mean it who else is going to look at all threads and use his own time to help someone who is screwing his own shit and then geting pissed?
i have had a few questions here and he as some other ppl have helped me
damn it if someone dont apreciate being helped then i advise that such person install a bomb in his car and blow it with him inside
in a brief manner go bother someone else
lmao :screwy:
skeavs
07-12-2005, 10:54 PM
Where would i get one of those GM tools to take off the door panel in a manual window 99 Z24? Thanks in advance
PsychoJJ
07-12-2005, 11:40 PM
Where would i get one of those GM tools to take off the door panel in a manual window 99 Z24? Thanks in advance
Answered in the thread you posted here. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=430789) Hope it helps.
Answered in the thread you posted here. (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=430789) Hope it helps.
the56kboy
07-20-2005, 02:43 AM
i need help, my 2002 chevy cavalier has the factory radio harness already cut, i bought a new reciever and im trying to figure out what the colors are on the factory wires heres the colors
(1)Orange
(1)Purple
(2) grays
(2) blacks
(1)Yellow
(1)Brown
(1) Tan
(1) Light Green
(1) Dark Green
(1) light blue
(1) Dark Blue
Please help me
(1)Orange
(1)Purple
(2) grays
(2) blacks
(1)Yellow
(1)Brown
(1) Tan
(1) Light Green
(1) Dark Green
(1) light blue
(1) Dark Blue
Please help me
CNStarz
08-08-2005, 09:02 PM
Hello everyone......well I appreciate the tutorial on how to remove the dash etc. My question....I'm trying just to get the trim plate off. Is this possible to do without removing the dash?? I'm afraid to break the trim plate and am not that thrilled with the idea of taking the entire dash out. All for a gauge face cover??!!! : ) I was able to free the trim plate around the bottom of the entire unit but not able....more like afraid to pry it from the top. Help!! : )
Jess :eek:
Jess :eek:
colinlesser
10-29-2005, 01:16 PM
waht about the passanger side airbag?
nick1987
11-08-2005, 10:41 PM
im having trouble with removing the dashboard on my 1998 sunfire i have removed all the screws and bolts to my knowledge and the dash still dosnt want to come out any helpfull info or images for sunfire dash's not cavys?
GoHeels222
12-12-2005, 10:28 AM
I have a question, say you wanted to remove the whole front dash for painting purpouses, and after you go through all the steps as listed, whats the only thing holding the dash on, the dimmer switch? Just cut the dimmer switch and thats it, the dash is off?
dickdarlington
12-28-2005, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the very detailed description, I was able to get me new car stereo installed and the car back together in less than 2 hours, thus saving me $50 and having to wait till late next week for Best Buy to fit me in the schedule.
1stcavyz24
02-15-2006, 08:28 PM
Hey, hoping someone would be able to help with this.
i just removed my front dash/centre consol trim for painting but,,, the long strip inbetween the front window and the vent... how is that taken off to paint.. or how is it possible to paint that? I can see bolts holding it on, but it seems to be craddled into everything,,, the airbags, wiring,,, everything... Should I tape newspaper on the window and surround areas and spray paint in the car?? (doesnt seem like such a good idea)... alittle more help on this topic would be great
Thanks
i just removed my front dash/centre consol trim for painting but,,, the long strip inbetween the front window and the vent... how is that taken off to paint.. or how is it possible to paint that? I can see bolts holding it on, but it seems to be craddled into everything,,, the airbags, wiring,,, everything... Should I tape newspaper on the window and surround areas and spray paint in the car?? (doesnt seem like such a good idea)... alittle more help on this topic would be great
Thanks
cavy2fast4u
02-15-2006, 08:34 PM
The only way to remove it is to take the whole cockpit out. It is like the main peice. Someone at one time made a fiberglass cover that just snapped down on the old one. So yeah your best bet would be to either pull EVERYTHING out or mask everything off real good.
1stcavyz24
02-16-2006, 11:46 AM
alright thanks,,, looks like i'll try the good old maskin everything off real good way...
once again thanks
once again thanks
cavy2fast4u
02-16-2006, 12:31 PM
no prob
Classicrocjunkie
02-16-2006, 02:10 PM
It was WINks who use to make the cover for those who had cracked dashes... but he's no longer in business..
1stcavyz24
02-18-2006, 11:49 PM
well,,, i took the time and took apart my dash for painting on thursday... i wanted something to do,,,,,,, dispite the cold weather i still managed with alot of heaters.. anyways,,, the middle vent i have yet to put back on,, been kinda lazy... but its white aswell,,, the entire interior will be these colors at one point,,, most likely start it come summer,, to much work keeping the cold away from the paint... so what u all think??
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3558/firststage9fo.jpg
and the bottom right picture,, thats glare,, not a big mess up with white spray paint :P,, but the airbag cover is white,, shoulda made this pic bigger,,,,, center vents are same color blue,, same with driver side vent
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3558/firststage9fo.jpg
and the bottom right picture,, thats glare,, not a big mess up with white spray paint :P,, but the airbag cover is white,, shoulda made this pic bigger,,,,, center vents are same color blue,, same with driver side vent
count4thme
02-20-2006, 01:42 PM
I had to join in and I see that this was a long time ago but this helped me out alot and the Dude with the issues ,, Hope he made it through it fine . Cause ppl like that have a hard time getting through life doing everything the hard way..:banghead:
Thanks guys very informative,
Count4thme
Thanks guys very informative,
Count4thme
xerk
02-23-2006, 10:14 PM
Hi, i was taking apart my dash today in my 99' cavlier and i am studh at the passenger airbag. the dash seems to be stuck there... every time me and my brother try to pop it off, it wont budge... also is there any risk of the air bag deploying with out disconnecting the battery, or as i pull off the dash?
:banghead: <--- Me right now... with a ripped apart dash. lol
thanks!
- MIKE
:banghead: <--- Me right now... with a ripped apart dash. lol
thanks!
- MIKE
1stcavyz24
02-23-2006, 10:59 PM
Disconnecting the battery is not that big of a deal, just becareful. I took mine apart no problem. Make sure you have unscrewed all the bolts/screws in the tutorial. Use a screw driver to pri the dash upwards to reveal the clips where you should be lifting away. The passanger side, (if all the bolts/screws are removed) just give it a little force, it should pop right off,, the airbag is covered in a white paper but not directly touching the dash so you shouldnt worry too much about it going off... along the topside there arent any clips holding it on,, once you have that part of the dash lifted, you have to disconnect the dimmer switch,, (follow the wires around to the opposite side of the steering column) and it should be sticking to the side, pull it away and unclip it (should be blue). then take the dash pieces out
cavy2fast4u
02-24-2006, 08:10 AM
Hi, i was taking apart my dash today in my 99' cavlier and i am studh at the passenger airbag. the dash seems to be stuck there... every time me and my brother try to pop it off, it wont budge... also is there any risk of the air bag deploying with out disconnecting the battery, or as i pull off the dash?
:banghead: <--- Me right now... with a ripped apart dash. lol
thanks!
- MIKE
Sounds like you still have the cover bolts in. Open your glovebox, there is an open area at the top of it. There should be 2 7mm bolts (kinda goldish color) there, take them out and that should be it.
I never disconnect my battery when doing anything electrical, but then again I could be an idiot.
:banghead: <--- Me right now... with a ripped apart dash. lol
thanks!
- MIKE
Sounds like you still have the cover bolts in. Open your glovebox, there is an open area at the top of it. There should be 2 7mm bolts (kinda goldish color) there, take them out and that should be it.
I never disconnect my battery when doing anything electrical, but then again I could be an idiot.
xerk
02-25-2006, 12:02 AM
Alright i unscrewed the 2 bolts before and i guess tomorow after work ill just try pulling up.... hmmm it seemed sooooo hard to get off before... what eva.
THANKS GUYS!
-mike
THANKS GUYS!
-mike
Viper_Storm
04-07-2006, 08:33 AM
If i left anything out besides the actual wiring it up of it all... let me know and i'll add it..
1 more thing i forgot.. when connecting the wire harnesses.. please don't use wire crimps or wire nuts.. i've seen it too often where they have come undone and taking the dash apart gets annyoing over time..... Soder the wires and black tape them off....
you can just unplug the harness to the dash trim peice and remove it altogether, the harness is on the right side of the guage cluster (for anyone intrested it removing the whole damn thing) it makes life easier if you are trying to wire in a new antenna.
1 more thing i forgot.. when connecting the wire harnesses.. please don't use wire crimps or wire nuts.. i've seen it too often where they have come undone and taking the dash apart gets annyoing over time..... Soder the wires and black tape them off....
you can just unplug the harness to the dash trim peice and remove it altogether, the harness is on the right side of the guage cluster (for anyone intrested it removing the whole damn thing) it makes life easier if you are trying to wire in a new antenna.
scott7
04-10-2006, 12:15 AM
Hi, new to the board and I have a question. The only information I've found was related to removing the stock head unit, but I was wondering if the stock head unit had any sort of audio inputs. My girlfriend might be getting a 2000 Cavalier z24 coupe, and I thought I'd wire an ipod adapter into the stereo like I did on my car, if it were possible. Now that I see you have to deal with taking off the whole dash and work near the passenger airbag, I might not even touch the thing for fear of messing up the airbag.
koolcavalier
04-18-2006, 05:37 PM
Hi everyone, i'm new to this site. I have a 1996 Cavalier and I wanted to put in a new head unit. At first I had absolutely no idea on how to do this, since it was way different from the 1992 Cavalier that I had before. A cousin of mine told me that I had to take off the dash to do this. My first reaction was how the hell am I going to do that. So I searched the internet. And after lots of searching, I came across this site and found Classicrocjunkie's post on how to take apart the dash and install the new unit. Classicrocjunkie, thank you for posting how to do this on the internet. I read your post and all of the replies. It helped me so much. I had the job done in about an hour and a half. I think thats pretty good for someone who never took the dash apart before. Your instructions and the pics were perfect. Now I know exactly how to do this in the future. I just wanted to take the time and say thank you Classicrocjunkie for your post.
Cold_Silence
04-19-2006, 12:20 AM
Great post CRJ, just installed my rear pioneers today with a friend, took my time everything went smooth! :) They thump!
Did anyone notice that the 6x9 speakers in the rear deck arent fully exposed? The metal drilled out that expose the speakers face dont look big enough, its wasting potential sound distribution :( I was thinking of drilling new holes so i could center it better, or an even messier way is to drill the hole out bigger so more is exposed. I just left them be in the stock holes etc and they sound great, j/w if anyone else has noticed this "problem"
Did anyone notice that the 6x9 speakers in the rear deck arent fully exposed? The metal drilled out that expose the speakers face dont look big enough, its wasting potential sound distribution :( I was thinking of drilling new holes so i could center it better, or an even messier way is to drill the hole out bigger so more is exposed. I just left them be in the stock holes etc and they sound great, j/w if anyone else has noticed this "problem"
ubercav
05-29-2006, 10:23 PM
hey classicroc,
first of all your directions for removing the rear dash were perfect. Thanks for outlining that. Now, in your directions for removing the door panels, you say you need a GM-Tool to remove the window crank, if i went to a chevy dealer and asked for one, would they know what i was talking about and would they sell me one?
first of all your directions for removing the rear dash were perfect. Thanks for outlining that. Now, in your directions for removing the door panels, you say you need a GM-Tool to remove the window crank, if i went to a chevy dealer and asked for one, would they know what i was talking about and would they sell me one?
colinlesser
05-29-2006, 10:31 PM
go to advance auto parts, and get the tool its like$5
Classicrocjunkie
05-29-2006, 11:15 PM
hey classicroc,
first of all your directions for removing the rear dash were perfect. Thanks for outlining that. Now, in your directions for removing the door panels, you say you need a GM-Tool to remove the window crank, if i went to a chevy dealer and asked for one, would they know what i was talking about and would they sell me one?
Or you can use a rag and if you jimmy it right it wil come out, just be sure to watch out where the clip goes, they are tricky little sons of bitches and like to go flying.
first of all your directions for removing the rear dash were perfect. Thanks for outlining that. Now, in your directions for removing the door panels, you say you need a GM-Tool to remove the window crank, if i went to a chevy dealer and asked for one, would they know what i was talking about and would they sell me one?
Or you can use a rag and if you jimmy it right it wil come out, just be sure to watch out where the clip goes, they are tricky little sons of bitches and like to go flying.
CavLCD128
05-29-2006, 11:38 PM
NO
NO NO NO NO NO...flat head....screwdriver....is the only speical "tool" you need...just push the door back a little....pull the window crank forward a little....and wedge that little bastard out of there...and while ur doing that think of what you can do with the 10-15 bucks u just saved urself cuz u didnt have 2 buy the tool :)
NO NO NO NO NO...flat head....screwdriver....is the only speical "tool" you need...just push the door back a little....pull the window crank forward a little....and wedge that little bastard out of there...and while ur doing that think of what you can do with the 10-15 bucks u just saved urself cuz u didnt have 2 buy the tool :)
ubercav
05-31-2006, 05:49 PM
perfect! thanks a bunch
Tonto Kowalski
06-05-2006, 02:21 PM
Question about door panels: After you remove all the screws and the window crank, does the door panel come off or are there some kind of clips holding it in place that you have to break?
Classicrocjunkie
06-05-2006, 06:55 PM
Start pulling from the bottom, it has a gruve where it holds onto the window. Wiggeling is the best way and where it feels snagged just pull there. Just make sure you get alll the screws out first.
Tonto Kowalski
06-05-2006, 07:56 PM
Ok, and when I go to put it back on, do I just put the screws back in or are there some clips that need to snap into place? Are there any clips that get broken when you take it off, which need to be replaced before you can put it back on?
Classicrocjunkie
06-05-2006, 08:48 PM
you just have to make sure you get the part near the window on correctly and the rest just falls in place and lines up. there are no clips, just screws.
ILoveMyCavalier
07-01-2006, 05:21 PM
Just a quick question, do you have to remove the whole dash like that just to install a new CD player? I have a '96 Cavalier with the original radio/tape player, and I bought a compatable CD player. I can see the section of the dash that covers the edges of the radio, but I don't know how to get it off. Any help would be great! Thanks!
PsychoJJ
07-01-2006, 06:00 PM
Thats the greatest thing I dislike about cavalier is needing to take apart the whole dash for anything.
Lances133
07-01-2006, 06:20 PM
Wow, I never thought of that....that sucks a bunch.
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