Z06 vs. Cobra R

Well, which do you want? I will try and get some more pics and stats soon (like, in 1 hour)

For me, Z06, no question.

I know I'm going to hear it later, I chose the Cobra R.

here is the Cobra Rhttp://a332.g.akamai.net/7/332/936/0001/www.edmunds.com/edweb/brauer/mustang/media/00.Ford.CobraR.leadshot1.jpg

well very nice, it does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, and a quarter of 12.9 seconds. It can generate 1 g on the skip pad. It is full of many aftermarket parts. Here is an excellent site for ALOT more:
here (http://www.mustangworld.com/ourpics/News/mwcobraR/)

Here is the Z06:
http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/exoticarsparadise/images/corvetteinterior.GIF
http://supercarstats.hypermart.net/car/exotic-images/chevrolet_corvette_z06.jpg

It does 0-60 in 4 seconds flat, a quarter of 12.5 seconds, and gets 1 g. It is also 10 grand less than the cobra R, which doesnt have all the luxury amenities the Mustang has. The mustang rides REALLY rough, the corvette rides OK, but doesn't let that interfere with handling.

So, here it is: Corvette-faster,cheaper,nicer. Is it really that hard??

Oh, both have 385 hp and 385 lb-ft of torque.
The vette has a 5.7L engine, the Cobra R 5.4L.

Got to go with the Z06 here :)

they are two different cars...
the cobra is a race car, the zo6 is a street car... both cars are great... for the street iwould take the vette, but if i am racin, its the r

I take the Z06 whether it's for the street or the strip, or the track, or the garage, or whatever. It's a better car, hands down. The only thing the Cobra R has that the Z06 doesn't is a higher price tag, worse looks (although great), a stripped interior, and the exclusivity factor. The Z06 kills the R in performance, so why shouldn't it be a better track car? Besides, if you really are going to race it, get the Z06 and use the $ you save to tweak the suspension and add a few ponies.

Corvette for me, easy choice.

http://www.allvettes.com/Ukcorvet/Z06/2Lrg.jpg

when the cars were compared on speedvision, the r was quicker on the track, b/c it has a race derived susp on it... not saying it is always better, but it did fare better on that track... the tires help too... kd ta's handle like glue...

But for 10 grand you could change Z06's tires and wheels and the suspension. :p

i dont deny that...
but i like the raw style of the cobra

the zo6 is so refined... smooth... the r is raw and mean...

Of the two, I'd take the Z06. Among the reasons not to get the Cobra - Its built by Ford. I'll never own anything that they make. Even Jaguars are off the list. The engineering is piss-poor.













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I like the Cobra R. I guess it's the wing on the back. Too bad red is it's only color.

hard to fault a Jag xk8.. i don't know if its fair to judge Aston Martin, Jaguar, or Land Rover by prejudices one might have about the nameplate that carries the corporation's logo... I mean, would u not buy a MB SLR b/c you once had a bad experience with a neon as a rental car? its a fair comparison.... fomoco/chevy arguments always have a truck or ponycar or racing root... they rarely fold over onto genuine trends in the company.
dan

So far, the vote is split. But as others have said, the Vette has better performance all around, and on many tracks. PLus it does it in leather, CD, all the luxury stuff of a regular corvette. The R is missing many luxury stuff (who says going fast shouldn't be a little nice, withness all the supercars, 550, Diable, XJ220, etc)
And, you can use the 10 grand you save for, say, a blower, suspension bits, and new wheels/tires. Moral, you could strip a vette, add 10 grand in mods, and have a way better car than a R.

The R may be raw, but if it isn't faster, its just STUPID!!! Thats what I have to say:)

Originally posted by flylwsi
i dont deny that...
but i like the raw style of the cobra

the zo6 is so refined... smooth... the r is raw and mean...

...but slower

if, per the numbers noted here... it runs similar 0-60 times, and same quarter, how is it slower???
please explain that one...

what i was saying is that the vette has always been refined, a doctors car, if you will, while the mustang is the punk kid who wants to prove somethings car...
remember, the vette and mustang are not in the same park, and just b/c the price is higher, doesnt mean that the r and the zo6 are in the same league...

if the mustang is compared to the camaro, then the r should be compared to the ss camaro... which it will kill, but that doesnt mean it cant be compared to the zo6...

but it isnt always slower, and the handling is similar...
just read back and tell me that when the numbers that are quoted are identical or similar, how is it "slower"?

Originally posted by my homie, Chris
here is the Cobra R. Very nice, it does 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, and a quarter of 12.9 seconds. It can generate 1 g on the skip pad.
Here is the Z06:
It does 0-60 in 4 seconds flat, a quarter of 12.5 seconds, and gets 1 g. It is also 10 grand less than the cobra R

Well, I consider half a second faster in 0-60 as being pretty substantially faster. And, i seem to recall a comparo in which the Z06 managed the second fastest lap around the track, behind only the Modena, and even in front of the "all-mighty" turbo. Now, if it can compete so well with cars like that, I'm sure it can compete with a Cobra R.

Now, I don't quite understand your argument about the class distinction. The Z06 is a high-performance production car, whereas the R is a heavily tuned, stripped Race car. These cars are definitely in the same class...if nothing else, the R is in a higher class because it is more expensive and in such limited production.

Finally, I hardly doubt that the R really handles well enough to make up such difference in quickness. I haven't driven either, but I'm making an assumption here. And, even if it does, like I said you could just slap on a few after market parts on the Z06 and make up for it...and probably more.

It is ludicrous to compare a Cobra R to a SS. Lets see, 55 grand vs 25 grand, 300 made vs. thousands. Compare teh SS to the SVT Cobra, where the SS wins (all the mags agree with me)
Normally, the vette and mustang are not in the same park. But when you make a racer mustang, they are. I have tried (mostly successfully) to not have any brand loyalties that overcome the facts. Perhaps you, flylwsi, should do the same. The Vette is far better (and just because you can drive it every day doesn't make it a 'doctors car'.)

PS, Cobra R's will cost you more like 70 grand to get, thanks to speculators and greedy dealers.

And I won't be surprised when the price for a used Cobra R reaches 100K. I mean, look at the 93 R and the 95 R...tought to find, and when you do, expensive. So, I guess that's a benefit of the R...it's such a collectible that it will only go way up in price. Then you could sell it and buy a Z06.

Or two Z06's, or a Z06 with twin-turbos (lingenfelter) or a Z06 and a 3-series.

even though the cobra is the best looking stang...with the hood and spoiler and stuff....the z06 is faster and i would rather lack a little bit of good looks to perform better , i mean the z06 is one bad ass looking car..it beautiful! ...the cobra r is fast but it cant quit catch the z06..thats why the z06 was matched and is always put in pairs with the viper performance wise..now we all know the viper would beat the z06 ....but lets be honest...the z06 is closer performance wise to the viper that the cobra r!...the mustang cobra r and saleen (not the pussy 281 shit)..are the only mustangs i would'nt totally rag on...roush stage 3 isnt even that great!

Originally posted by RSScamaro
...roush stage 3 isnt even that great!

considering the price, anyways.

And don't be so quick to dismiss the Z06. At 3.9 seconds 0-60, its faster than any viper out there (except for the race ones for the street, but they're 250K, so lets not even consider them).

wasnt dismissing the z06 in any way...its my favorite out of the 3 and probably one of my favorite cars right now



peace yall

Originally posted by flylwsi
i dont deny that...
but i like the raw style of the cobra

the zo6 is so refined... smooth... the r is raw and mean...

I agree with that, the Z06 looks too smooth and is already showing it´s age.

chris...
i am not brand loyal.
i am sick of people who think that vettes are god. end of story.

the cobra r handles awesome, at least from what i read.

and keep it real... i own a honda and a chevy s10.
im not loyal to ford, but the cobra is a hella nice car, even though it is really exclusive...

but either way...
comparing the ss with the r simply meant putting the mustang into its "territory" as a pony car. but i didnt say it was fair. pitting it against the zo6 isnt either... but that is svt's fault for wanting to challenge the vette... they wouldnt let mags test it against it if they thought it couldnt compete...

The fact of the matter is,Ford hasnt really been doing much for performance wise in its cars,now comparing a 2000 car to a 2002 is a little odd..Ive read that the vette and R times are practically the same and the R beat both the viper and vette on the track.It really depends on where you look..some magazines are biassed anyways.
The 99 S351 is faster than vette and viper ...that should be comparison .The R looks better and sounds better.

Hey, a new guy here. I just want to say I have an 02 Z06 and it is an awesome car. It can do anything the Cobra R can do and do it easier and for less money. The Z06 is easy to drive fast and the engine is so torquey and forgiving. Real world 1/4 mile times are very low 12's and even a few high 11's STOCK! I like the Cobra R and even wanted to buy one, but the Z06 was the one I bought and remember, the 02 has 405 hp and torque. I think the money differance is the biggest factor in gong with the Vette. Bill

One of the things that also makes the cobra R great is the limited number,so down the road it will be worht alot more money,thats also one of the reasons why its more expensive than the vette.
Dont get me wrong..I like the vette alot but honestlyy i rather have a cobra R...

I would opt for the Cobra R. Just something about owning one of 500 or so cars in existence. It wouldn't even bother me that it has no radio, no air conditioning etc. I am a tad biased however...:)

I wouldn't mind if the Cobra R really was race ready, but it still has power locks and power windows!!!!

Being a better track car doesn't make it any better on the street. I don't own a racetrack and could cope with the 'doctor' cache (wonder what the Stang says about you?) while doing 12's so sign me up for the Z06 treatment

i voted for the ZO6..all around a better car..that, an i like hows its lower to the ground..

I'd take the Z06 however i could get it, looks better, rides better, faster, cheaper, what else do you want people:confused:

Here we go....Such a real big difference huh? and with a limited number of 300, Im sorry Cobra is the way to go...

Lez'see...the 2002 Z06 is considerably faster than those stats...conditions perfect, and under 4 secs 0-60 possible. 1/4 more like 12.5 than 12.8's...and it has air conditioning and a stereo that you can listen to while you beat the Cobra R around the track. Cobra R is a feat, but, Chevy's got Ford licked on this fight. in every way except collectibility

Also, look at 0-100-0 mph, a better test of a track car then just acceleration.

The Cobra screams 'cool.' But pulling up in a ZO6 in Detriot is like pulling in a Tuscan R in London. The Corvette just has that... stuff...:sun:

Originally posted by USA Racer
The Cobra screams 'cool.' But pulling up in a ZO6 in Detriot is like pulling in a Tuscan R in London. The Corvette just has that... stuff...:sun:

Now we just need to pull up in a Tuscan R in New York:)

Im quite sure the R can pull better times in perfect conditions too,but still the fact that it was limited to 300 id rather have the R.But hey everyone has their own views.

I'm damn sure the Cobra R will not keep up with the 2002 Z06. 2001, yes, 2002, no. Simple as that. now that i've gotten my hands dirty...ah...I like the Cobra R, but, it's just a glorified special edition that could've been a lot more sadly. 2002 Z06 comes with all creature comforts, and still will spank that cobra around a track, on a 1/4, 0-60...whatever...

2 years newer than the Cobra R im sure it can.. If Ford made a 2002 Cobra R I have no doubt it would keep right up with the Z06. But there is a cobra already made for that..

Yeah, well, we'll see what that '03 Cobra can do once it's released. Still, I doubt it's going to be urinating on Z06's at a track, or, for that matter, it's probably still going to be hardpressed to beat it down a strip. Weight's up, and hp is still down from Z06. Ford's Chevy killer is known as the GT40. But it shouldn't even count, at 100k+ when released. Or should it?

Yeah thats the real problem with the car is weight..but who knows..im trying to decide if i should buy one..As for the GT-40.. last time i checked i dont have 100K to put on a car and if i did..i just upgrade what i have now and make it faster than the 40 for less the price..alot less..Hey Tinsel? what times does your GT-super run?

Unfortunately, I haven't had the golden opportunity of getting it to the track as of late. Nearest one is a good 3 hour trip. That's roughly 50 dollars in gas round trip... :D but, i'm hoping to possibly run it down there in the summer. Should make 12's without a wimper, and if I throw on a set of drag radials, who knows what could happen? I'm currently saving pennies for a new torque convertor and possibly some more power upgrades. Til then, though, it's got to stay slow...lol.

I doubt anyone here will get a CobraR for the 55K list. They went well above that. They are great cars and I wish I had one, but I got the 02Z06 and I am happy with that decision. The Z06 is a very easy and forgiving car that hauls A**! My Boss302 is quick too, but it takes a lot of work and effort to drive fast, aka, no torque, just HP! 405/405 for the Z06 makes it an easy choice, even for this Ford guy. Bill

The R would beat the Z06 on a tight track. While the chevy has a slightly higher slalom speed, its tight corner handling is not as good as the R's, which has a more track suited suspension, better weight distribution, better chassis rigidity, and a shorter wheelbase.

BTW im not saying the R is a better car than the Z06, im just tired of u ppl saying "the zo6 beats it in every aspect"

Originally posted by Fliquer
The R would beat the Z06 on a tight track. While the chevy has a slightly higher slalom speed, its tight corner handling is not as good as the R's, which has a more track suited suspension, better weight distribution, better chassis rigidity, and a shorter wheelbase.

BTW im not saying the R is a better car than the Z06, im just tired of u ppl saying "the zo6 beats it in every aspect"

That sounds right. The new Cobra with the blower will most likely be much slower than a Z06 in every respect. I just feel that the overall design is much too old to truly compete with a car as new as the Corvette (granted, 1996 isn't yesterday, but its still a great car). Case in point: the current Z3 is based on the E32 BMW sedan from the early 1980's. So, it rides poorly, and it can not handle with the current crop (this does make some really great oversteer, hence, the M roadster is Tiff Needles favorite car)

Z06 any day of the week, and twice on Sunday

Originally posted by Chris
Well, which do you want? I will try and get some more pics and stats soon (like, in 1 hour)

For me, Z06, no question. Absolute no-brainer here for the Z06.