Audio

Picked up 2 subs and an amp today, i bought the car with an alpine head unit and all speakers replaced with alpines; today got 2 10" alpine type E subs w/ boxes, a Bazooke ELA300.1 amp, and wiring for a very good price; question is will I need a capacitor? just thought of it; would this drain too much power?

yes...i always recommend a Cap. It never hurts.

it's not necessary tho unless you'll be exceding 600 watts.

type e's are pretty power friendly, they dont take much.. you'l be fine w/o

haha...geno ur sig is awesome...

heres a question.. have any of you guys attempted to build a box that holds 4 12" subs and still fits in the hatch.. because im thinking about it since i just got another amp from a buddy in a trade.. and i have my sonys and some kenwoods just sittin around..

it's not good to mix speaker types like that.

yeah im with Geno on that one.. shouldnt mix different subs.. If you really want to use them all though, I suggest building a box with seprate chambers for each sub, and have a differnt amp for each set of subs.. still not a good idea though..

i built a tub box that holds my 2 10" type r's.. And ive had them that would hold 2, maybe even 3 12's.. To get 4 twelves in the tub box though my box would need some major modification.. 4 12" subs side by side.. plus the divider would be like 4 1/2 feet, way to wide for the back hatch

there was a time when I had 4 12's in my camaro, 1998 I think it was. they sat 4 across and they were in a big box in the back seat facing forward, it was the only way it fit, sound quality was crap, I didn't have it for very long. If you talk to the guys at a car audio shop, they'll tell you that only 2 12's will give you the best sound, because with any more you really won't be able to tell the difference. something with airspace and the way the sound travels.

if you listen to alot of rock though....get 10's

korndogg, why 10's?

because 10's provide a much tighter more responsive bass, 12's are more for rap, hip-hop, etc.. music with loud deep base

im more a fan of 8's or 10's..

werd, i was testing him. 10's move faster and are better for the rapid percussion of rock and such. 15's are best for the loud deep bass, and 12's are in the middle and have a little bit of both qualities.

no actually it dosent matter what size subs u use for better response, its all in the sub its self and it frequency response for the higher bass notes, also its in the type of box u build if ur gonne listen to rap build a bandpass or a bix sealed enclosure, and if ur listening to rock i would build a ported enclosure w/ the ports tunned much higher for good sq. and as for the four twelves its possible but it will be hard to fit them straight across the well i belive im building a box this tuesday for three 12s w/ about 1.25 cf per sub and its gonna be loud. and as for the building seperate chambers for the subs its a good idea for many reasons. one because if one sub blows the others wont be getting to much air. and two w/ different kinds of subs, they will fight for air and it could be bad for them and if nothing else sound horrible

$20 says if you put a 10 next to a 15, with the same amp, wires, head unit, and rapid paced percussion song, the 15 will have a delayed response compared to the 10.

yes w/ the exact same everything u will because the area of the speaker its gonna take longer what i was sayin is u can make a 15 sound just as good depending mainly on how u tune your box and what kind of 15 it is because i know of more than one person who uses 12s not 10s for sq (sound quality) competions because of the broader range of frequency response. and alot of rock songs too have very low bass i personally use a smashing pumpkins songs to show off my setups bass and also ozzy's momma im commin home

that's what i was trying to get at, is the response time, delays like that can make a really good song sound really shitty.

yes i understand and really both of us make good points all i was saying was u can make any 12 and most 15s sound good on rock music also its all in the fine tunning of the stereo

yes i understand and really both of us make good points all i was saying was u can make any 12 and most 15s sound good on rock music also its all in the fine tunning of the stereo

but you can Also make a 10 or 8 go deep as hell and hit all those low notes.. as you said, the box type plays a large part, as does the quality of the sub.. But the general rule of thumb is that a smaller sub is going to be tighter and more responsive than a larger one..

IMO, a small sealed enclosure is the best type of box.. they will get the broadest freq. range for people that listen to a little bit of everything..

what i planned on doing for my box is running the subs to seperate amps.. i have the 2 sonys(1200W P5's) being pushed by a sony 1000W amp and the Kenwoods are going to be pushed by a Pioneer 800W amp.. thats a lot of wattage.. i know.. but its all i could really get my hands on.. but im rethinking my idea.. because getting 4 in the hatch is gonna be more of a pain in the ass than its worth.. and of course i know better than to have more than 1 sub in an air compartment.. i was planning on having 4 different compartments inside the box.. but that is such a pain in the ass.. so screw it.. lol

and to add to you guys' argument.. a 15 is definately slower in response than say a 10 or 12.. because my buddy Josh has a 15 in his jeep and nothing sounds the same.. it beats harder, but its not as clear.. and i used to have 2 8's in my camaro back when i got it, had 2 MTX Terminators pushed by a 150W Optimus amp.. it was sweet listening to rock, it kept up nicely.. but what i did for the 12s was install a kill switch in the remote line, so i can just turn off the system whenever i want.. so i can beat when i listen to rap and cut it when im listening to rock.. sweetest idea for someone who listens to multiple music types..

heres a question.. have any of you guys attempted to build a box that holds 4 12" subs and still fits in the hatch.. because im thinking about it since i just got another amp from a buddy in a trade.. and i have my sonys and some kenwoods just sittin around..


if you have them in sets, sure it would work depending on placement, but quarenteen the subs to sets like 2 kenwood to 1 amp 2 sony to 1 amp, otherwise there will be a significant power output from the subs

4 12's in a camaro is completely possible and it wll sound a lot better then u can imagine...they will fit across in the back tub of a camaro---the reason i know this is because i work at a shop and i assisted in doing this exact setup---it has won many competitions and trust me...it sounds wayyy better than 10s would ever sound

It would be much easier to do it like I did , pull the back seats out , custom fab a plexiglass 3/4" housing for 2 12's. One for each seats empty space , make sure everything is air tight , get some free air speakers and you'll be in really good shape. If you want you can even go with like 1 15" in the hatch space or throw a couple 12's back there too. Either way it would sound cool. If you have 4 subs with no chambers , you might as well have two subs as two of them would be cancelled out. If you run three per enclosure with no chambers , the center one will be ruined after time as it will respond the opposite of the others.

i dont know man i got three 12s in mine and they are the exact same subs all to one amp and i have no chambers and mine is fine now on the other hand if u go mixing subs it will become a disaster cause different subs use more or less air then others and have different response times....oh and if four 12s fit id love to see that box cause i barley got three in mine im thinking they had to expand the box onto the hump in the back to get that one to work unless its a fiberglass enclosure

ironically i was just lookin at custom boxes for my 89 maro. but man are they ($)high($) i would much rather build one if possible. was wondering if its possible to build one with just a single board to lay flush in the hatch. or what some options are. can sum1 give me advice and/or point me to a site maybe. wondering also what the quality is like w/ subs facin up in the back. thanks...

yeah man pm me and ill help ya out