Fast Ass Zx3

my buddy ran upon these videos enjoy but dont get any on the keyboard................... by the way its a 351 windsor powered zx3 just a heads up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ive always seem the v8 swap pointless, you can turbo and get 330+whp for less money

ive always seem the v8 swap pointless, you can turbo and get 330+whp for less money

pointless??????? turbos are over rated!!!!!!! and this is real american power at work man. i personally think ford messed up making a 4 cyl fwd but thats my opinion dont take that personal. i have driven a 2003 svt focus hatch great car comfy and all and a bit faster than i expected but could you imagine the possiblities of a small block car like that its endless. and if you have that kind of money its a sweet ass sleeper. id love to do something like that to my beretta...lol

pointless??????? turbos are over rated!!!!!!! and this is real american power at work man. i personally think ford messed up making a 4 cyl fwd but thats my opinion dont take that personal. i have driven a 2003 svt focus hatch great car comfy and all and a bit faster than i expected but could you imagine the possiblities of a small block car like that its endless. and if you have that kind of money its a sweet ass sleeper. id love to do something like that to my beretta...lol

really? turbo is over rated? then explain how you have have a 300+whp car will stll be able to clean up at both teh track AND the autoX? the weight of a v8 in a focus throws off the barance for autoX, and if you wnat a v8 then go buy a fox body, why ruine a perfectly good car. How much HP is that v8 putting out? and a know its clsot almost 23k do buy a focus and have a v8 swaped+install, when you can get a stage3 SRT-4 and do basic mods and be knocking on 12's, or buy a new zx2(10k) and for another 10k have 320whp be in the low 11's and still be able to take the v8 in the twisties.

so explain how a turbo is over rated?

turbos are over rated!!!!!!! and this is real american power at work man.

so because american cars have 2 or 4 less cylinders than a V8, they arent 'real' american power, yet they can make just as much power as a V8. :screwy:

really? turbo is over rated? then explain how you have have a 300+whp car will stll be able to clean up at both teh track AND the autoX? the weight of a v8 in a focus throws off the barance for autoX,


very valid point. I agree with zx2. A turbo kit would by far cost much less and produce just as much power or more than a n/a V8. The cost of fabrication for a V8 to fit into a focus or any car would probably cost the price of a turbo kit alone. It would definetely be more for my car considering a V6 barely fits into the engine bay, let alone a V8. And yes, stage 3 srt4s are running 11s with about 450 whp. My friend with a Nissan Maxima with stock engine, drivetrain besides clutch and lsd, and upgraded injectors is putting down 538 whp, 603 tq with just the addition of a turbo kit on his V6. Definetely far less money to buy a turbo and a lot less headaches with fabrication.

ok take a 351 windsor and a zetec motor which makes more power..... duh add a turbo to a zetec then you blow the motor...... then you spend a shit load of money rebuilding the motor to hold boost.... then you have to update the fuel management and the tranny and the cv axles ..... motor to motor the 351 windsor is way cheaper to build and much easier to modify and easy to get more power out of it... im not trying to affend any trust dude we are all car nuts here I hate to piss youll off i just think it would have be rad for ford to stay with real american motors v6 v8 .... i love 4cyls and fwd cars i own one but i also own a mustang gt conv. just watch the videos guys its a match made in heaven zx3 plus 351 windsor = multiple orgasms lol later dudes

ok take a 351 windsor and a zetec motor which makes more power..... duh add a turbo to a zetec then you blow the motor...... then you spend a shit load of money rebuilding the motor to hold boost.... then you have to update the fuel management and the tranny and the cv axles ..... motor to motor the 351 windsor is way cheaper to build and much easier to modify and easy to get more power out of it... im not trying to affend any trust dude we are all car nuts here I hate to piss youll off i just think it would have be rad for ford to stay with real american motors v6 v8 .... i love 4cyls and fwd cars i own one but i also own a mustang gt conv. just watch the videos guys its a match made in heaven zx3 plus 351 windsor = multiple orgasms lol later dudes

how much does a 351 windsor/rwd conversion kit cost?

you know im really gonna have to agree with blah_101 on this b/c some people on here really have a passion to build cars like that and carry on the american tradition of lots of power and muscle and cost isnt about to get in the way of them and their projects. before i met a guy named chris down the street from my house and i helped him build a 1969 Superbee i was into just making a car look nice. but theres just something about building a engine twice as big as a i4 and just listening to the deep sound of it tells you what a real car is supposed to be like....so quit bashing on blah_101 unless youve personally tried to swap a v8 into a focus and have the receipts for all the parts you bought

ok take a 351 windsor and a zetec motor which makes more power..... duh add a turbo to a zetec then you blow the motor...... then you spend a shit load of money rebuilding the motor to hold boost.... then you have to update the fuel management and the tranny and the cv axles ..... motor to motor the 351 windsor is way cheaper to build and much easier to modify and easy to get more power out of it... im not trying to affend any trust dude we are all car nuts here I hate to piss youll off i just think it would have be rad for ford to stay with real american motors v6 v8 .... i love 4cyls and fwd cars i own one but i also own a mustang gt conv. just watch the videos guys its a match made in heaven zx3 plus 351 windsor = multiple orgasms lol later dudes


yeah it will blow if your an idiot, turn up the boost at a track or street race and run 11. .then turn it down when your not racing and get 34+mpg, and you can still out handle the zx3 with a v8 in it. and a v8 swap is like 10k, that more then enough to get a zx3 professionaly worked and tuned to make over 320whp.

i just looked up the new zx3 only gets 26mpg and thats before you add a turbo and intercooler and cold air intake and a full exhaust....... im not bashing turbos dudes i really think that if you have the money to spend on a turbo why not save alittle more and go v8 and scare all the little civics in town away...... thanks 03 focus guy for backing me later dudes

a zx2 with intake,FR pcm, header and catback can get 44mpg if driven right

Why go turbo????
Because adding a V8 would throw off the balance of a very good handling car. Adding the rear diff, removes the passive rear steering.
Adding all that extra weight to the front makes no sense.

An excellent turbo system can be built for less than $5000 and make 270 whp on 94 oct. No race gas needed. All on a stock block and rods, without the fear of blowing things up.
It cost less, can easliy out handle the V8 and with some extra help (because of it's power to weight ratio advantage) can even run with the V8 in a straight line.

It could easily hand a BMW E46 it's ass, straight line.

Why go turbo??? Why not?






BTW I know of no commercially available turbo system that can do this... And what turbo kit or system makes 320whp on pump gas????? News to me. Race gas tunes are complete bullshit. No one drives around on race gas, while a V8 will have the power all the time. And you can't switch back and forth. You have to run one gas or the other. Proping race gas tunes are for tuners who can't get or make real world power. Apples to apples.

I think Ford should have offered the Focus or at least the SVT with the Duratec 2.5 V-6 from the Contour. It would have been a tight squeeze but would have been smoother then a 4.

On the V-8 subject, people don't usually buy Focus for a performance car. A V8 would have just been ridiculously expensive from the factory and would have compromised Mustang sales. I enjoy seeing a Focus burning its rear wheels off but would have never made it as a production car.

I would rather see something closer to the European rally cars come over here. Cars like the Subaru WRX, Mitsubishi Lancer Evo and the VW R32. 200+ hp and AWD. A Focus spec'd that way would be fun for me.

If I want V8 Ford performance, I'm getting a Mustang or an F-150 Lightning.

svt has a demo focus with a v6 from the contour

svt has a demo focus with a v6 from the contour

Yup. I know of at least one that SVT has in Dearborn, MI. Comes with the European bodykit and as i remember, 6 spoke wheels similar to the new svt 6 spoke wheels. The engine is crammed in there for sure though. Theres a couple Focus RS's running around the detroit metro area too. :smokin:

btw, ill give my 2 cents again. Highway driving with a 12 sec 4 cylinder focus wouldnt be all that bad. Ive seen highway mileage actually improve by a few miles per gallon after being tuned. As long as you kept your foot out of boost, it would the same or better. And a 12 sec V8 doesnt get the best gas mileage either. :p All said and done, it would be cheaper to add a turbo kit/internals/drivetrain than to swap in a V8 and do a rwd conversion. Last time i checked you can buy a stage 3 turbo kit from demon dynamics for the focus which includes everything including low compression pistons for about $3,800.

there is also a guy on focusfanatics that did the swap

I would say that if you're the type of person who likes sleepers and to see the guy next to you in a 'vette with his mouth dropped open when you blow him away and money isn't a problem, then go with the engine swap. But if you like the sound of a blow off valve, money is an option, and you want to see the punk in the SRT-4 with his mouth open when you blow him away, then go with a turbo.

why not just turbo the 2.0L and blow vettes away?

357WHP in a 3469lb car = 12.8
318WHP in a 2500lb car = ? (theoreticly 11.3)

and still take corners VERY well lol