maxing out an eclipse

i have a 1996 eclipse that is an auto. i want to make it a standard. first off is that possible ? my second thing is that i am going to be in a car club and i need to increase the performance of my car i already have an intake in it and a full exhaust but what else can i do?

we need more detaile about the car...

so what else do you need to know bout it. its 2.0 engine 16 valve 4 cylinder. what else?

there's a turbo, and a non turbo. if you need more than a few more horsepower, you are looking at a turbo kit, or getting a real car, such as a GSX/GST/TSI.

If you don't know if it's possible to do a manual tranny swap, then you either have to A. pay a shop $6000 or not do it.

you know, to be honest man i wouldn't even ask about your non turbo on here cuz all they will say is that you should buy a turbo like they have,thats all they ever say,some guys will help you but most willl brush you off,cuz i have a n/a also and if you noticed i stoped making threads awile ago cuz that is all they say

you know, to be honest man i wouldn't even ask about your non turbo on here cuz all they will say is that you should buy a turbo like they have,thats all they ever say,some guys will help you but most willl brush you off,cuz i have a n/a also and if you noticed i stoped making threads awile ago cuz that is all they say


The reasoning behind that is the fact that the 420a bang for the buck ratio is NOTHING like the 4g63. You COULD turbo your 2g N/A, but that's spending lots of money just to get to where a mildly modified 4g63 is. Everyone recommends just selling the car because it's just not worth the trouble (unless you have deep pockets).

However, for a nice boost that doesn't cost TOO much, nitrous is a wonderful thing. A friend here has a 75 shot on his 2g N/A, and I must say it pulls pretty hard for what it is. Every now and then he'll throw in the nozzles for a 95 shot just for kicks, and boy that is fun :icon16: .

i guess your righti know like everyone else that a 420a wont keep up with a gsx unless you get like a hahn stage 2 or something which i could never afford,but me i just did the basics and its fine with me its not like i go to new hampshire and race or anything but i like the body of my car and the sexyness of it so that alone is why i like mine turbo or not,peace

Well what you can do is:
Performance Header
Hi Flow Cat
Short Shifter
MSD ignition

just look around on nopi (www.nopi.com


If turbod:
low compression engine components
BIgger Turbo
louder blow off valve

If turbod:
low compression engine components
BIgger Turbo
louder blow off valve

LMAO!

There is nothing wrong with owning a N/T there are so many parts for it and they are not all super expensive. You just have to look around for the best deals and take advantage of the companies that do price matches. One of my cars is an N/T and I threw a rod in it, now I am going to put a NEON block in it 420a, but since I need a new motor I am going to bore it out probably .030" over with Eagle forged H series rods and forged racing pistons from JE with 8:8.1 compression, new lifers, 1mm+valves intake/exhaust, crane stage 2 cams and +/-12*gears, 3rd gen lifters for a 4g63, underdrive the accessories, cold-air intake, Venom intake manifold HKS Hyper cat-back exhaust,GReddy headers port and polish, 5 angle valve job, racing plugs/wires, Billit aluminum pulleys on all accessories, Billit alumenum flywheel, Hein 600cc injectors, intake resistor, and an ECU mod-chip. This ran around $2,000(this is only because I am doing most all of the work on my own) on a $2,500 car, so its like a heavy moded car for $4,500, and you could say it has 0 miles on it this brings overall HP up to 300+ on what started as <150HP torque falls just over that at 300+ ft/lbs and started as <140. I want to get the Hahn racecraft turbo kit it costs about $7,000-8,000, but it is so worth it, the power it would have with that is unreal we are talking like 700+ at 18 p.s.i. but I don't think I want to spend that much, i'll probably just go with the super20G on its own and it'll put me back a couple hundred and put at around 500+HP(super 20g's max) at 12-15 p.s.i., i'll end up running 10p.s.i. at 450+ HP, now tell me that is not good for any motor. Laugh it up and put me down now 4g63 owners, but there is serious hidden power in a 420a, you just have to be willing to put mostly the time into it.

I want to get the Hahn racecraft turbo kit it costs about $7,000-8,000, but it is so worth it, the power it would have with that is unreal we are talking like 700+ at 18 p.s.i. but I don't think I want to spend that much, i'll probably just go with the super20G on its own and it'll put me back a couple hundred and put at around 500+HP(super 20g's max) at 12-15 p.s.i., i'll end up running 10p.s.i. at 450+ HP, now tell me that is not good for any motor.

have fun with that wheel hop....

talonESI where did you get those numbers? have you dynoed your car? those numbers are not anywhere near realistic 700+ at 18 psi LMFAO :screwy:

Lol, TalonEsi, not trying to dog on you but those numbers are nowhere near what you'll actually be putting out. Although the setup is pretty nice, don't expect those kind of numbers, because you will not see them. 300HP naturally aspirated will not happen with that motor, even with those mods. Good luck though, looks like a nice setup.

I feel like i'm in a honda forum right now... this isn't good, guys... :D j/k

its a side effect of having a NT car. :biggrin:

I think maybe Talon ESi took all the projected gains from his mods and added them together to get those numbers.

I feel like i'm in a honda forum right now... this isn't good, guys... :D j/k


being a current soon-not-to-be honda accord owner, with a new GST out back you guys have no idea how funny this really is

its a side effect of having a NT car. :biggrin:

Side Effects, eh? Is that why i have that slight uncomforting urge to by Type S badges every once in a while? Maybe it IS time to get rid of the Spyder and upgrade...

UH OH!!! Talon ESI has caught the NT Virus and it seems to be spreading rapidly. :p

quit doggin on the NT's......atleast it is a DSM and not a damn civic :nono: but yea i do get where ur comein from about sellin the nt and geting a turbo but some people dont know the diffrence before they buy the car and are stuck and just dont wana sell theres but still make it fast

like me for example i payed 4,900 for the car and since ive put in a new clutch tranny both front wheel barrins and about to put in a new motor because i blew a rod yea i would sell it and get a turbo but hell i gota take the motor and everything out anyways why not just go ahead and turbo it while everythings out but only reason i even say that is because ive already put 2,100 in the car after payin 4,900 for it and i wouldnt be able to get my money back out of it if i sold it so im just gana stick with the 420 trubo'd :-D im just gana make sure i do it right

the fact that you already lost money in the car doesnt mean you need to lose more. lol for a mostly street/show car that isn't going to be real fast the 420a is fien but if you want more bang for your buck just cut your loses and buy a turbo

dude, bore and stroke the 420A engine. that shit will fly fast enough to be up with the GS-T's

dude, bore and stroke the 420A engine. that shit will fly fast enough to be up with the GS-T's


Yes, up with the relatively stock 4g63's :p

Yes, up with the relatively stock 4g63's :p
LMAO, This is true, you start modding that crap and there is no chance to keep up, best bet is just to get a turbo car now before your in too deep with the one you have.

I have a N/T as well, but I say as Long as I keep beating every honda I race, I'll be fine! LOL,
......Lookin for a 99 GSX though, m/t of course!
Any how I say upgrade your coolin sys.... Cooler engine...faster car runs!

yea but i dont have enuff money to buy a gs-t or gs-x right now all i have is 2,000 bucks saved up and the 420a im getin now is the motor that my new tranny came off of its got 56k on it there gana rip apart the motor redo all the gaskets new pistons and rods upgrade my fule suystem and reinforce my motor mounts and put a full turbo kit on it for 2500

my moms gana loan me the 500

im getin it from a salvage yard and they had a GS-T in there with 74k miles on it and they told me they will take the turbo and everything off of it

yea but i dont have enuff money to buy a gs-t or gs-x right now all i have is 2,000 bucks saved up and the 420a im getin now is the motor that my new tranny came off of its got 56k on it there gana rip apart the motor redo all the gaskets new pistons and rods upgrade my fule suystem and reinforce my motor mounts and put a full turbo kit on it for 2500

my moms gana loan me the 500

im getin it from a salvage yard and they had a GS-T in there with 74k miles on it and they told me they will take the turbo and everything off of it


Sounds like a nice setup! It'll be awesome to have another turbo-420a around here :) . Keep us updated with everything, and good luck with all of it! :bigthumb:

thnx its gana be fun to finally be a turbo :-D

Damn...Talon could you lie anymore :loser: