USA to be Home to Iraqi Homeless

When will George Bush finally learn that the invasion in Iraq is doing more damage than enough to the American Economy?

The Yanks came across here and blew our cities to hell injuring thousands of innocent people, yet Mr Bush is telling our Citizens that 45,000 may now come and live in the USA !!!! Is Bush that desperate for puppets to try and persuade us to leave our birth place.

We Did not ask the Yanks to invade our Country with the British, we did not ask for our civilisation to be murdered, we dont want changes, if we wanted changes, why would it be to the American way of life?

The only reason that America has invaded our land is for Oil simply because they are desperate to continue using their petrol guzzling machines to polute their own nation, now they want us to come over there and Live with your filthy pollution?

America needs one big damn nuclear bomb dropped on them, where 1,000,000's of innocents are injured (Not Killed) then and only then, will the American people see for themselves the suffering we have to endure over here. When the oil shortage finally hits home to america, and prices rise beyond the reach of normal folk, and your grand children are suffering with severe breathing problems look back to the early 2000's and just think how you are to blame for polluting the atmosphere and damaging the Ozone layer.

As for coming to America? Why would we want to go to a country that is full of corruption with politicians, something they say they are trying to outlaw in our country? Yet at least, our politicians admit to being corrupt, try looking towards Saudi Arabia and see the connections between your George Bush and the Royal Family, why pick on Iraq, thats easy, Iraq does not have the same amount of corrupt politicians that can rear their ugly head up and bite George Bush on the backside.

What do you americans think about 45,000 Iraqi's coming to live in your towns and cities? Try thinking that there is not going to be a hint of hatred towards american civilians from the refugees.

America needs one big damn nuclear bomb dropped on them, where 1,000,000's of innocents are injured (Not Killed)


I was with you up to this point. This just hurt my feelings. But at leat you've gone and added the "Not Killed" part, so I won't take it TOO personally. As somewhat of a liberal American (and a Bush basher), I resent your generalizations regarding Americans, their views and intent. I would also like to point out that most third world countries have far greater levels of pollution than the U.S. Of course, Mr. Bush will soon change all that, but for now...

Come on over. You can stay at my house. We'll get a pizza and watch some football.

i think the yanks deserve every thing they get,if that includes the iraqs then so be it after all the rest of the world has been hoodwinked into helping bush get back in and for what just so he can go and bomb some other poor sod !!

bomb some other poor sod

Makes a nice change from "blue-on-blue" bombing the Brits!

I was with you up to this point. This just hurt my feelings. But at leat you've gone and added the "Not Killed" part, so I won't take it TOO personally. As somewhat of a liberal American (and a Bush basher), I resent your generalizations regarding Americans, their views and intent.


I'm amazed you say it hurt your feelings? :rolleyes:

We have over 93,000 injured and now homeless in Fellujah because of the barbaric way the Americans have slaughtered our civilians, murdering one person in cold blood in a place of worship. I studied English in University thinking it would make me proud to communicate with foreigners in a bid to better our world for our children, but instead Mr Bush finds the need for Oil to be much more important than humanity. President Saddam only used force to control his enemies of the state, George Bush uses his powers against the world, towards anyone not agreeing with him.




I would also like to point out that most third world countries have far greater levels of pollution than the U.S. Of course, Mr. Bush will soon change all that, but for now....

Most third world countries do not have the finances availalable to them to eliminate the pollution, it's only 6 years or so ago that America withdrew from the treaty for pollution control because the citizens would resent the fuel price increases, in Europe the governments are giving benefits for smaller engine vehicles, one thing I cannot understand is Why do Yanks need 6 litres of engine in a basic family saloon car? :headshake :headshake :headshake

Everything Americans want, has to be bigger than everyone elses, this results in more trash to dispose of when it comes to the end of it's life, at least here in Iraq we are encouraged to recycle our items, it may be an unusable Fridge, but if we can strip parts to prolong the life of another then we do so.

I spend time stripping down parts from the damaged American Tanks and Jeeps left by the roadside, because the Yanks simply feel it is not worth removing their rubbish after it has been abandoned after an attack.



Come on over. You can stay at my house. We'll get a pizza and watch some football.


Sorry but we are more into Movies over here, The biggest comedy currently showing is Rambo :iceslolan :iceslolan :iceslolan

One Question though, If Rambo was as good as he is made out to be, Why did the Americans withdraw from Vietnam :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Is there a mod at hand that could check this guy's IP to determine whether he's actually from Iraq? :rolleyes:

What do you americans think about 45,000 Iraqi's coming to live in your towns and cities? Try thinking that there is not going to be a hint of hatred towards american civilians from the refugees.

i know a couple iraqis... and their parents were happy that America was doing something about Saddam, why do you think they escaped from Iraq to America? Cause of Saddam... its better for you now that he's gone

Is there a mod at hand that could check this guy's IP to determine whether he's actually from Iraq? :rolleyes:


Errrmm Are you really from Auckland New Zealand? Why are you more interested in where I'm from instead of the points I've raised :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Are you of a racist intent that Iraqi's cannot post within this site without verification of our IP Addresses? :banghead:

i know a couple iraqis... and their parents were happy that America was doing something about Saddam, why do you think they escaped from Iraq to America? Cause of Saddam... its better for you now that he's gone

Some people were not happy living under Saddam that we can both agree on, however, try asking the families of the many thousands of families now suffering and they will tell you that at least with Saddam our homes were not blown out of existence.

We along with many millions of other citizens around the world are eagerly awaiting Gerorge Bush to show us these so called Weapons of Mass Destruction that they concocted as an excuse to invade our country. Lets imagine that All of Europe along with Russia and China decided to band together and invade America calling them a terrorist country, how would the american people feel about being invaded?

As for it being better for me now that he has gone, please do explain how living in bullet ridden and bombed houses with no Running water and mains electric is better?

We rely soley on generators for power at this present time, just to keep our basic needs in place.

It's strange how Americans always seem to know whats best for everyone without taking the time to consult anyone first?

i know a couple iraqis... and their parents were happy that America was doing something about Saddam, why do you think they escaped from Iraq to America? Cause of Saddam... its better for you now that he's gone

true but why dont they go back ?? :lol2: :lol2:

Just one thing to make clear, the war was not for oil. If it would have been for oil, then the price of oil wouldn't be twice what it was before the war began

One Question though, If Rambo was as good as he is made out to be, Why did the Americans withdraw from Vietnam :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

well duh, because he had to start his boxing training. Rocky didnt just wake up and become Rocky.

Just one thing to make clear, the war was not for oil. If it would have been for oil, then the price of oil wouldn't be twice what it was before the war began


I Think you'll find this is over Oil :uhoh: Because George is so well in with the Saudi's they need to destabilise the oil production companies in Iraq, try telling people around Europe that the price of oil has not risen over the past few months. The problem with America is the government is subsidising oil prices, could you imagine the uproar if George Bush announced heavy increases in Fuel?

If the US Government are not subsidising fuel, (Remember George Wubbya is an Oil baron in his own right and has his priorities) Why are the likes of Ohio losing jobs like there is no tomorrow? Why can the Americans not feel the benefits of a national health system the same as the UK, wake up, your taxes are being exploited by the so called senators of the USA lining their own pockets, try finding out which of your so called political leaders have a vested interest in the munitions companies, look how much they are spending on bombs and missiles, look how much the supplying companies are earning, then look at the shareholders of these companies.

Americans are being conned from getting out of bed to going to bed on an evening, then they are conned whilst in bed, talk about gullible the only word not in the American Dictionary :lol: :lol: :lol:

America Pollutes the earth and then pays millions of dollars to send satellites up to monitor it, rather than put a stop to it in the first place.

America must be one of the most corrupt Cuntries in this Universe and yet they have the cheek to remove Saddam Forcefully :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think questions of you being from iraq is the fact that you seem to grasp the language extremely well


Also do not assume that all of us, Americans want to be over in iraq, i dont, i know its because of oil im not an ignorant ass.

for your comment about dropping a nuke over here; if you did that your country would be wiped out, completely, not the smartest of ideas.

about half of us in these boards are with you, we dont want to be over there, and we sympathize with you. I am Irish, the English do the same thing the americans are doing to you.

however there was no need for a thread thats says drop nukes on all americans, and if you really wanted to start one in the POLITICAL section of off topic

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First and foremost, you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else. So don't think I'm trying to tell you that you have to change your mind or else. Just please respect that I am entitled to mine as well.

Now on to business. Since when does a nation as a whole, care about another nation as a whole? Everyone across the world seems to forget that as an active state, the United States has to look out for itself. Society doesn't just keep itself running, you must make certain sacrifices to maintain it. So say whatever you want, the U.S. is looking out for its best interest.

You say that we need to be nuked, why? When did something as horrific as that happen to you? Your lands are reuseable, and not poisoned. If no other American will stand up for our nation in this thread, I will. That is probably the worst thing you can say after what's been done for you. Your houses are gone? Houses can be rebuilt. Currencies can be restored. Fallujah (sp) getting out of hand right now? Well plenty of our Marines are dead too, and I don't think they're killing each other. Someone on the Iraqi side is firing weapons too.

Why are we shooting and killing? We're being shot and killed. Yes, we went in first. We got the mission done, and could have left, but we were shot at. So what do we do? Make sure our troops that went in and took out Sadaam didn't die in vain.

But back to my main point. As a country, you look out for your own survival. You ensure that you will go on and thrive. It's how the world works. Most other countries are fortuneate that the U.S. and other world powers looks out for them, sacrificing their own money and resources to ensure that they survive. Yet what do we Americans gain from this? Nothing. We maintain this horrible reputation. Americans are more than likely the most hated people in the world. I would bet on it.

But I don't see any other nation spending as much money and resources on other nations. I don't see any other nation with as many programs designed by private owners to help out other nations. Who ensured the survival of many of India's people when they allowed many programs to end to make sure their Nuclear Program was successful? Private parties in the U.S. that "adopt" children and whatnot. And what was their sacrifice for? An empty threat. No nation will use a nuclear weapon because there is no place you can nuke in the world that won't come back and haunt you.

But they have the button too. It's an equality thing. It's a power statement. It's something to encite fear into other nations. It's childish. And yes, the U.S. plays this children's game too, but realize that it is merely a way to maintain ourselves. We do things like this just like any other country would to maintain themselves.

I'm sorry that your nation was not able to properly take care of its people, and became an ample target for the U.S. to invade. That's not my fault, and not particurally my problem either. What is my problem is that I have friends over there risking their lives for your people, not mine. If this was over oil, it would be over and done with. I don't think it would be very hard for a country of our firepower to go in and slaughter everyone. You complain about how many "innocent civilians" have died in Fallujah, what do you want us to do? Sit there and double or triple check to make sure that the main up in the tower is infact someone who is trying to kill us? I'm sorry friend, warfare doesn't work that way. Why would any minded civilian stay in a warzone? Why don't they leave?

Why do you expect my country to fight different than yours? It's clear who your targets are. We have uniforms, badges, armor, weapons. We have no idea who we're fighting against. Some bombers appear to be regular civilians with bombs strapped underneath clothing. Cars on the streets are boobytrapped. So let me leave you here with just one question.


If your country was inside another, and your friends were out fighting, would you sacrifice your comrades to let a few foreigners (sp) live, or take out a few foreigners (sp) to make sure your comrades survived?

If you say let your friends die, you're full of shit.

After 6 years in university you do tend to grasp the language when taught by an English teacher from Kent, we have discussed many political topics over the past 12 months.

I have been to England on 3 occassions for periods of 3 months so yes I do speak the language well. There are even Americans who cannot speak the language properly, Aluminum instead of Aluminium is one prime example of the incorrect grammar :lol2: I still await comments however, from my original post, our press over here is making a big deal about 45,000 citizens being permitted to move to the United States if they wish, what is your press making of this?

As for England? Tony Blair has always been led by America, something to do with them bailing the british out of WW2 He will undoubtedly be replaced next year and that will certainly scupper Georges plans in my opinion.

If your country was inside another, and your friends were out fighting, would you sacrifice your comrades to let a few foreigners (sp) live, or take out a few foreigners (sp) to make sure your comrades survived?

If you say let your friends die, you're full of shit.

damn well put

There are even Americans who cannot speak the language properly, Aluminum instead of Aluminium is one prime example of the incorrect grammar

American English and English are two different languages entirely.

We have over 93,000 injured and now homeless in Fellujah because of the barbaric way the Americans have slaughtered our civilians, murdering one person in cold blood in a place of worship.

Your coming up with all of these numbers where is your proof? I've talked with many soldiers that have been in Iraq and have brought back pictures who would say otherwise. And civilian casualties would not be as bad if Saddam didn't set howitzer cannons next to houses and schools, and terrorist didn't bomb their own people supposable trying to get U.S. and British troops, but only killing their own.

If you think Saddam should be in power well good for you if you want a leader who torchers people, breaks treaties and uses chemical wepons on his own people. I've also have seen pictures of building full of papers with names of missing people that have never been found in Iraq since Saddam has been in power.

quote m3fordboy "I've also have seen pictures of building full of papers with names of missing people that have never been found in Iraq since Saddam has been in power." unquote... i have seen film of people walking on the moon,still dont believe it !!

Sorry to hear about your country's misfortune. Wish I could help.

After 6 years in university you do tend to grasp the language when taught by an English teacher from Kent, we have discussed many political topics over the past 12 months.

I have been to England on 3 occassions for periods of 3 months so yes I do speak the language well. There are even Americans who cannot speak the language properly, Aluminum instead of Aluminium is one prime example of the incorrect grammar :lol2: I still await comments however, from my original post, our press over here is making a big deal about 45,000 citizens being permitted to move to the United States if they wish, what is your press making of this?

As for England? Tony Blair has always been led by America, something to do with them bailing the british out of WW2 He will undoubtedly be replaced next year and that will certainly scupper Georges plans in my opinion.

You know for all the bitching you are doing, you could be helping your people who need it so bad and make a real difference. go out there and fight with your soldiers since you hate us so much. why complain and call a board of ppl who are mainly American assholes when you should be smart enough to realize that none of this will get to our president or high ranking officials. Instead quit bitching and sitting behind your computer telling us what we need to do and help yourself out.

quote m3fordboy "I've also have seen pictures of building full of papers with names of missing people that have never been found in Iraq since Saddam has been in power." unquote... i have seen film of people walking on the moon,still dont believe it !!

I saw the pictures because I was talking to a soldier who was in charge of setting up the program to try and find out what happend to these people in Iraq. It's not like a saw it on the news.

Our press over here is making a big deal about 45,000 citizens being permitted to move to the United States if they wish, what is your press making of this?

In all honesty, I haven't heard about it until now and I appreciate you informing me. This alone should be reason enough for you to not call us barbaric, for we are literally, offering to save your ass.

This supports my point in my larger post. We waste our money and resources, to ensure the survival of other nations and people, yet we're still hated by all.

Heavy is the head that wears the crown.

Can a MOD please move this to the "Politics" section... I think it fits better in there.

http://www.wernersplace.com/images/GWBush_Education.jpg well we all have to learn !!!

Why do you expect my country to fight different than yours? It's clear who your targets are. We have uniforms, badges, armor, weapons. We have no idea who we're fighting against. Some bombers appear to be regular civilians with bombs strapped underneath clothing. Cars on the streets are boobytrapped. So let me leave you here with just one question.



exactly... and he called american soldiers barbaric, come on look at the opposition.
the least they could do is wear uniforms


true but why dont they go back ?? :lol2: :lol2:

obviously cause the quality of life is better in America :rolleyes:




As for it being better for me now that he has gone, please do explain how living in bullet ridden and bombed houses with no Running water and mains electric is better?

We rely soley on generators for power at this present time, just to keep our basic needs in place.

It's strange how Americans always seem to know whats best for everyone without taking the time to consult anyone first?


I'm from Poland i know something about living in bullet ridden buildings... your electricity will come back, those are temporary problems.

Imo your country will be much better under a democracy than under a dictator... how cant you see that? Sure times are bad now for the people living in Iraq but it takes time to make a country better. We got out of communism 15 years ago and we're still way behind western countries, but things are getting better there, just like things will get better in Iraq. Look at the positive that will come for your people from this war. Sure some people are dying now, but for the benefit of future generations in Iraq. They won't have to deal with a war or a dictator like you did.

And your point?

^^^^ Hahaha...Thats almost true, because your additions to this entire thread have been a sentence long. You two are the only ones that bash America this much, yet I can safely assume neither has ever been here. You know what you hear on the news and the BBC about America. Why don't you come over here, see things for yourselves?

Honostly this is all just opinion versus opinion. I was in Iraq, I have seen how the people live. They were like that before we got there. Your awesome electric system that doesn't work right now, thats because it is being upgraded. The Iraqi's were running of of stuff that the U.S got rid of in the 50's. Did you have rolling brown outs before when Saddam was in power? You did, thats amazing, i bet Baghdad didn't, it's obvious that is the only city that Saddam cared about.

Then of course you bring up the whole killing in a Mosul thing. Did you hear though that the soilder just the day before was injured and watched his friend die, when a man pretending to be sleeping blew up a IED?? And if you did know that you should have posted it.

My personal feelings for the whole war goes like this. You want a reason for us to invade Iraq? How about this, because we can. And instead of all the world turning, they joined us. The only reason France didn't get involved was because they were selling missles to Iraq. Germany? Who really cares, they wouldn't have done anything special anyhow. And the innocents? Well lets see how many terrorists or "freedom fighters" as you would call them, have taken news reporters hostage??

Can a MOD please move this to the "Politics" section... I think it fits better in there.


It would be better put in the joke section!

I doubt this user has anything to do with Iraq, posting on the internet using a Broadband internet carrier in England. Must be a hell of a commute so he can post on here.

He is one of a few.

hey flatrater, he seems oddly close to being another active member, maybe you could check that out.

Not even going to bother.

This sort of bullshit will not be tolerated on AF. There is a political forum if you want to discuss this sort of thing.

oddsodz, your trolling will not be tolerated. Consider this an official warning, if it happens again you will be suspended.

Toymakers, signs suggest you're actually posting from the UK. Care to explain?

*edit* flatrater beat me to the trace. harrrrr!