ZO6 vs '05 C6

Just today I witness some crazy sh*t on the highway coming home a ZO6 vs a C6.IM behind this ZO6 wishing my camaro had the power to keep up and then a new red C6 pulls up hard I thought he was challenging me but he went ahead to the ZO6 in front of me and in no time these guys were flying I tried to keep up, I stayed close enough to see who won and the ZO6 took the C6 by what looked like about 2 or 3 car lengths.Now I was doing 155 mph and these guys were still pulling away fast thats high performance, but that C6 let me down :confused:

Didn't you just say you got your car impounded and your license revoked? And then you went from saying you had 490whp to like 317whp...

UH-OH...this isn't going to good. Well, if you really saw it happen, then that sounds like it would have been an awesome race to see. Anyway. Late...

The c6 is only the newer corvette... the c6 z06 isnt out yet.

I find it hard to believe the Z06 pulled on the C6 by 2- 3 lengths.

When infact, the C6 is a bit lighter. Has lower drag coefficiency, and has the same power (if not more, underrating is a bitch ain't it? :lol:).


The C5 coupe is actually slippery-er through the air than a C5 Z06. Can't remember the exact numbers, but it's slightly better by like two tenths.

MY license was taken from me a year ago and my car I and impounded a year ago cant a Brotha get his car back with out the hassel or what a black man cant get his car back and follow a couple of corvettes.I cant run a 490 hp set up and deside a day later that my budget wont fit the setup in, so I go back to my old stuff.

Yeah...that's it...I don't believe you because you're black...I'm such a racist bigot.

Im just playing with you damn......

NO...I don't believe you because you said you had a 490whp camaro and couldn't manage better than 13.15.

Then for the first half of your posts, you kept telling everyone that you had 490whp, then said
"oh and I dont have 490hp I have 314 to the wheels if I had a TPI system I would make the 490 but I have A TBI system I ran a dyno run with a TPI system to see how the car would react but I couldnt keep it because I couldnt afford to buy right now."


Because you repeatedly told people you had a 355 stroker kit and badmouth turbos, recommending only going all-motor, and then you say
"I thank you for that bit of info and I wish I could tell you more about my car but the fact is I no nothing about american cars, I have ben an import guy all my life and I bought the camaro under peer pressure so I dont know what Im looking at Im just taking the previous owners word for what is in the engine."

I simply don't believe you because in my eyes you lack any credibility what-so-ever.

and are you going to hold it to me for the rest of my time here that I got really happy about a setup that I didnt own yet and came out my mouth a little early and it bit me in the ass.I mean what does a brotha got to do to redeme him self???

Trust is like your virginity...you lose it once and your F**ked

So what now I cant talk no more with out you getting on my case I mean I'll leave the forum if you think Im wasting your time.

No, post what you want, I didn't say you couldn't post. And no, I'm not going to follow you around jumping on your back...I'm just taking this thread with a grain of salt.
Every week, we have another person come on here claiming they have a ridiculous car, or make some other outrageous claim...and once someone loses their credibility, it is hard to get it back...is all I'm saying.
I never said you lied, I implied I didn't believe you.

Well I wish I could tell my story in a way you could believe but I guess thats done for.When that 490 hp something had to have been wrong with the car to run as slow as it did, do you have any Ideas.I mean a viper has 500hp and only runs 1/2 sec better than I did and it has a 6spd manual Im auto it has full race suspension I have stock and it weighs less. I mean if my car should run faster then the viper should be running 10s IT RUNS 12.5 I run 13.15

Plenty of my friends have LS1s and some can run 13.1 near bone stock, simply with exhaust.

That aside, you said:
"oh and I dont have 490hp I have 314 to the wheels if I had a TPI system I would make the 490 but I have A TBI system I ran a dyno run with a TPI system to see how the car would react but I couldnt keep it because I couldnt afford to buy right now."

...so now you did a dyno run and ran the 1/4 to see how it would run...and then decided it was too expensive...?
Every story you have just seems to have discrepancies.

Virginia speed owns a strip right in front of the shop the setup was dyno then I ran a GPS 1/4 mile run maybe the GPS was wrong??but after that I went home and went to this forum and talked shit and then a day later relized that IT would be too much money to up grade the rest of the car to support the extreme power so I disassembled the engine and set it back to TBI ran another dyno 2 days later and it came out to 314 to the wheels.

Z28 Drifter: Post some pics of your car, your motor, and you flipping-off a sign on the motor that says "Screw AF", or some part of this picture - somewhere in the middle - will be a part of your sig, right before I ban you for being a waste of time, space, and human skin.

http://www.deafzone.ch/multimedia/gallerien/ny2003/source/bullshit.jpg

Will you guys stop bitching....w/e i dont care. my 10,000hp car is faster then all of you.

LS1 would still kick yer butt. :lol:


Remember, the LS1 saved Canada from the evil hordes of Hitler. Never forget.

I ran a GPS 1/4 mile run maybe the GPS was wrong??

You mean an accelerometer? I've never heard of anything tracking your quarter mile by use of GPS.

When infact, the C6 is a bit lighter. Has lower drag coefficiency, and has the same power (if not more, underrating is a bitch ain't it? ).

Ahh it isn't lighter for one, and two it isn't faster. The C6 is lighter then the C5, but not the Z06. The C6 has more low end grunt, but not as much power up top as the Z06. The mags have tested the Z06 to a 12.4 sec. 1/4 mile, versus the C6's 12.6. At higher speeds the gearing would probably hurt the Z06 though, let alone the drag. I've seen the new C6 at the track, and Danno was running faster then he was.

i was gonna say the same thing, as far as tests, the Z06
has run faster times then the C6

Realize though that the c6 is the entry level corvette (not to sound slow ~ cause still sick as hell and id take it if I could afford) and the z06 is a faster version of the car. When the z06 style car comes out for the new c6 platform, then we can talk :)

it will be clear which model is faster in 06-07

hey carnutt could you tell me how to add a buddy video to my avatar.

Ahh it isn't lighter for one, and two it isn't faster. The C6 is lighter then the C5, but not the Z06. The C6 has more low end grunt, but not as much power up top as the Z06. The mags have tested the Z06 to a 12.4 sec. 1/4 mile, versus the C6's 12.6. At higher speeds the gearing would probably hurt the Z06 though, let alone the drag. I've seen the new C6 at the track, and Danno was running faster then he was.


Ok, Well you're right about weight. The C6 is a bit more portly.

'04 Z06 3116lbs
'05 Z51 3288lbs

But I'd venture to say you're wrong about power up top. It's got better power delivery all through it's power band. It's got a 172lb handy cap. And it's only .2 seconds slower in the 1/4. It's got better power period. That extra 10 cubic inches helps out.

Considering the 172lb weight difference, it only stops 4ft farther than the Z06. I guess those larger brakes help. Not to mention it turns better even with it's extra gurth. Not to mention with slightly smaller tires width wise.

The '05 Z51 has basically the same gear ratios, except for a minor difference in 5th and 6th gears. But glides through the air much cleaner than the '04 Z06.


http://www.chevrolet.com/i/gallery/corvette/ext_gallery02.jpg
'05 Z51
Performance
0 - 60 mph 4.3
0 - 100 mph 9.9
1/4 mile 12.6 at 114.0

Top Speed 186
Lateral acceleration 0.98g

Gear ratios
1st 2.97:1
2nd 2.07:1
3rd 1.43:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.71:1
6th 0.57:1
Final 3.42:1

Brakes
Front Brakes 13.4 in. ventilated discs
Rear Brakes 13.0 in. ventilated discs
70 - 0 mph 166
60 - 0 mph 119

Tires
front 245/40 ZR18
rear 285/35 ZR19

http://chevrolet.jbcarpages.com/Corvette/2002/Bilder/2002%20Z06%20Yellow%20front%20right.jpg
'04 Z06
Performance
0 - 60 mph 4.3
0 - 100 mph 9.9
1/4 mile 12.7 at 112.1

Top Speed 171
Lateral acceleration 0.97

Gear Ratios
1st 2.97:1
2nd 2.07:1
3rd 1.43:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.84:1
6th 0.56:1
Final 3.42:1

Brakes
Front - 12.6 in. vented discs
Rear - 11.8 in. vented discs
70 - 0 mph 162
60 - 0 mph 116

Tires
front 265/40 ZR17
rear 295/35 ZR18


C6 best Vette yet? I personally believe so. I'm patiently awaiting the C6 Z06. Muwahah... that's gonna pwn.

But, I can't afford either car. C5 or C6... But if I were to land a good paying job. I wouldn't look over a C5 Z06. :lol: Still badass cars, plus with the C6 out. The used car market for C5 Z06s has brought the price down slighty. :bigthumb:

the C6 Z06 is supposed to have a 427 sittin under the hood.

yummy.

C6 best Vette yet? I personally believe so. I'm patiently awaiting the C6 Z06. Muwahah... that's gonna pwn.

no the 1966 427 vette is the best vette damnit
:mad:

and the 04 Z06 is electronically limited, it could go 186 also, just maybe not get there as fast

the 176 less lbs of the Z06 and the better aerodynamics of the C6 would lead me to beleive that the race from 0-180+ would be closer then we think

the best vette would HAVE been ANY vette with a 454 engine

NO...I don't believe you because you said you had a 490whp camaro and couldn't manage better than 13.15.

i've seen around 600 rwhp run 13s it happens.. some times cars run good sometimes they don't and the track is waaaaaay different compared to the street... and if they don't prep it right with BHT and all that crap then you don't get such good traction.

2006 Z07 will be a 7.0L engine 512 hp underated to 500 hp.. it will also have a ram air setup ;) Z07 will also handle better then the C6 and Z06's and will top out at 200 MPH stock.

LS2 blocks though do have a really nice manifold... you won't be able to use the LS7 manifold on your blocks though like you were able to swap a LS6 manifold to a LS1 because the LS7 is such a larger motor.. but they are having LS2 manifold setups with 90mm Throttle Bodies :D either way the next 7 years is going to be having some sexy cars that will blow our mind's away.. we're now entering a whole new level of Standard Performance :) can't wait to see everything.

well going back to the corvettes that must have been a sweet race wish i would have seen it.

the best vette would HAVE been ANY vette with a 454 engine

not as far as stock 1/4 mile times are concerned


50 FASTEST MUSCLECARS
# YEAR/MODEL ET/MPH ENGINE HP TRANS GEAR SOURCE
1 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/65
2 1966 Corvette 427 12.8@112 L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.36 CD 11/65
3 1969 Road Runner [email protected] 440 Six BBL 390 4-Speed 4.10 SS 6/69
4 1970 Hemi Cuda [email protected] 426 Hemi 425 4-Speed 3.54 CC 11/69
5 1970 Chevelle SS454 [email protected] 454 LS6 450 4-Speed 3.55 CC 11/69
6 1969 Camaro [email protected] 427 ZL1 430 4-Speed 4.10 HC 6/69
7 1968 Corvette 13.30@108 427 6V 435 4-Speed 3.70 HC 5/68
8 1970 Road Runner [email protected] 426 Hemi 425 automatic 4.10 SS 12/69
9 1970 Buick GS Stage I [email protected] 455 Stage I 360 automatic 3.64 MT 1/70
10 1968 Corvette 427 [email protected] L72 427 425 4-Speed 3.55 CD 6/68

2006 Z07 will be a 7.0L engine 512 hp underated to 500 hp.. it will also have a ram air setup ;) Z07 will also handle better then the C6 and Z06's and will top out at 200 MPH stock.

LS2 blocks though do have a really nice manifold... you won't be able to use the LS7 manifold on your blocks though like you were able to swap a LS6 manifold to a LS1 because the LS7 is such a larger motor.. but they are having LS2 manifold setups with 90mm Throttle Bodies :D either way the next 7 years is going to be having some sexy cars that will blow our mind's away.. we're now entering a whole new level of Standard Performance :) can't wait to see everything.


You realise that the 427 motors that are built in Corvettes (C5s) now, like in a Mallot C5 are based off of the LS1 itself.

It's the same motor basically as the C5R, a 427 small block. So, it's the same size physically.

You realise that the 427 motors that are built in Corvettes (C5s) now, like in a Mallot C5 are based off of the LS1 itself.

It's the same motor basically as the C5R, a 427 small block. So, it's the same size physically.

yes but the the cubes and everything else is off.. 350 is the LS1 and yes i know it isn't exactly 350 cubes LS7 is a 427.. they use a much larger manifold on the LS7 which does not fit with the LS1 or LS6

which is why people are going with the LS2 manifold swap now instead of a LS6 swap.

May I ask how it is you know all this?

The final specs of the C6 Z06 haven't been released yet. It's still all speculation. Especially the motor being used.

May I ask how it is you know all this?

The final specs of the C6 Z06 haven't been released yet. It's still all speculation. Especially the motor being used.
just a couple of forums i go on to with locals.. they aren't exactly positive but they're 95% positive.

not as far as stock 1/4 mile times are concerned



does that mean they are slow or has it been tried.

Um, this is a really interesting discussion, but I'm disappointed that Z28 Drifter hasn't posted his pics of his 490/317hp car with the flipping off AF sign under the hood. I mean, c'mon!

And Carrnutt, where is that sculpture?

Moo!

Just today I witness some crazy sh*t on the highway coming home a ZO6 vs a C6.IM behind this ZO6 wishing my camaro had the power to keep up

... I thought you had 490 HP? That would be plenty to walk a Z06.

I simply don't believe you because in my eyes you lack any credibility what-so-ever.

Trust is like your virginity...you lose it once and your F**ked


Every story you have just seems to have discrepancies.


Yes, yes & yes.

Ok, Well you're right about weight. The C6 is a bit more portly.

'04 Z06 3116lbs
'05 Z51 3288lbs

But I'd venture to say you're wrong about power up top. It's got better power delivery all through it's power band. It's got a 172lb handy cap. And it's only .2 seconds slower in the 1/4. It's got better power period. That extra 10 cubic inches helps out.

Considering the 172lb weight difference, it only stops 4ft farther than the Z06. I guess those larger brakes help. Not to mention it turns better even with it's extra gurth. Not to mention with slightly smaller tires width wise.

The '05 Z51 has basically the same gear ratios, except for a minor difference in 5th and 6th gears. But glides through the air much cleaner than the '04 Z06.


http://www.chevrolet.com/i/gallery/corvette/ext_gallery02.jpg
'05 Z51
Performance
0 - 60 mph 4.3
0 - 100 mph 9.9
1/4 mile 12.6 at 114.0

Top Speed 186
Lateral acceleration 0.98g

Gear ratios
1st 2.97:1
2nd 2.07:1
3rd 1.43:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.71:1
6th 0.57:1
Final 3.42:1

Brakes
Front Brakes 13.4 in. ventilated discs
Rear Brakes 13.0 in. ventilated discs
70 - 0 mph 166
60 - 0 mph 119

Tires
front 245/40 ZR18
rear 285/35 ZR19

http://chevrolet.jbcarpages.com/Corvette/2002/Bilder/2002%20Z06%20Yellow%20front%20right.jpg
'04 Z06
Performance
0 - 60 mph 4.3
0 - 100 mph 9.9
1/4 mile 12.7 at 112.1

Top Speed 171
Lateral acceleration 0.97

Gear Ratios
1st 2.97:1
2nd 2.07:1
3rd 1.43:1
4th 1.00:1
5th 0.84:1
6th 0.56:1
Final 3.42:1

Brakes
Front - 12.6 in. vented discs
Rear - 11.8 in. vented discs
70 - 0 mph 162
60 - 0 mph 116

Tires
front 265/40 ZR17
rear 295/35 ZR18


C6 best Vette yet? I personally believe so. I'm patiently awaiting the C6 Z06. Muwahah... that's gonna pwn.

But, I can't afford either car. C5 or C6... But if I were to land a good paying job. I wouldn't look over a C5 Z06. :lol: Still badass cars, plus with the C6 out. The used car market for C5 Z06s has brought the price down slighty. :bigthumb:
Ahh did you post two different magazine ads????? That's one of the slowest times i've seen posted for the Z06, and one of the fastest for the C6. I have an issue of both Car and Driver and Motor Trend where the Z06 traps at 114-117 mph. I've also been to the track on several occassions, and can vouch for the Z06 having a faster trap speed. Don't be too one sided Matty, the Z06 is still the better car thus far. I'm sure the newer iteration of the Z06 will be faster, but not the base corvette.

Don't be too one sided Matty, the Z06 is still the better car thus far. I'm sure the newer iteration of the Z06 will be faster, but not the base corvette.


I'm not being one sided.

The C6 is the better car. It can do everything the Z06 can within a few tenths of a second (1/4), a few feet (braking), plus it has the higher topspeed and it does it all for less.

It can do everything the Z06 can within 2%. That 2% if what you'd normally see posted in different magazines. From different drivers. Different conditions.

It's safe to say, the C6 Z51 is basically a Z06 in new skin... but for cheaper.


C6 Coupe vs C5 Z06 1/4 video Right Click, Save As (http://www.carsatcarlisle.com/schedule/corvette/images/callaway_z06_web.wmv)

The Z06 is faster. I own one and have raced a C6.
the new C6 Z06 will most likely be 450bhp and be a huge price jump.
I've got a big christmas list that will easily put my car in the low 11s on street tires and all for under 40grand. I can't wait to whip up on a new Z06.

also the Z06 is a better track car that just happens to do well in a straight line. out of every car under 100grand, the viper may be the only car that could post better track times and that would easily be remedied for under 5grand.