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Got a question on JDM Integras


10sec-Hopeful
11-18-2004, 11:26 AM
Well, I was chillin with my buddy yesterday, and recently he has gotten into Integras pretty bad. I used to have one, but sold it because I needed the cash. Anyway, he was talkin with a kid, and this guy knows TONS about Honda/Acura cars, mainly CRXs and Hatches...but he told my buddy that most (I'm assuming most is 80%) of the Integras in Japan are all motor. Now, around where I'm from, I've seen my fair share of turboed Integras, and I always believed that most people like to turbo their Integras.

So I was wondering, is it just the JDM that usually go all motor, or is it all of them?

BTW - They were talking about Type Rs in specific, but GS-R and LS came up in the conversation.

I told my buddy that I know this guy knows his shit, but I was pretty sure he was dead wrong, and that most people would rather turbo their 'tegs, or they already do it. I haven't seen many Integras over 350HP that are all motor running 13s, but I have seen probably 4-5 turboed ones running mid 12s.

Anyone got a clue?

kornflakes28546
11-18-2004, 11:40 AM
this post seems very ambiguous to me... but if your friend was talking about ITR (type r's) then yeah, most ITR's either USDM or JDM will more than likely be all motor, just because the b18c5 is a great N/A engine. the GSR motor is very similar.

now the ls, on the otherhand, is a great engine to boost. the low compression makes it very "boostable" :smile:

350hp is a near impossible feat for a N/A integra. and they would be runnin less than 13's.

integra123
11-18-2004, 06:49 PM
350 hp isnt impossible, i know plenty, and i have even seen a 515 hp one.

knorwj
11-18-2004, 07:59 PM
350 hp isnt impossible, i know plenty, and i have even seen a 515 hp one.



bullshit. I want to see this 515 hp N/A integra. where did you see it?

I can't imagine any one getting it over 300 without some serious cash, time, and know how let alone 515 hp.

b18ls
11-18-2004, 08:10 PM
To answer the first question. People in Japan usually don't turbo Honda's because there built to be N/A motors. High compresion engines shouldn't be boosted. As said above, the non/vtec integra is a great motor to turbo. People in Japan don't turbo them because no one buys non/vtec integras for speed over there.

Turbo in Japan=Nissan. (amoung other cars)
N/A in Japan=Honda.

integraboy_2007
11-18-2004, 09:26 PM
The most amount of hp for an integra i've heard of was a turboed type R with 475hp at 28psi, I was thiking bout getting a GS-R and buying an complete engine from jgenginedynamics.com and turboing since it's stated to be able to handle 60psi

95dxcivic
11-18-2004, 11:07 PM
I was thiking bout getting a GS-R, it's stated to be able to handle 60psi

60 psi, that is a whole lot of boost, hell, 20 psi is alot, but 60, thats fuck*n out of it:eek7: Who know if it is even possible, maybe with a whole sh*t load of heavy building. I just cant express how much boost that is through typing:comprage1 thats a whole fuck*n' lot.:cya:

Where did you hear or read that a gs-r can handle 60 psi. I wonder how much money you have if you hink you can build an engine to boost this much.

Maybe it can handle 5-8 psi stock.

integra123
11-19-2004, 01:12 PM
here is a video of a gsr on a dyno 515 hp.
http://cs.widener.edu/~epanek/MikesGSRDyno.mpg

Mannyb18b
11-19-2004, 01:26 PM
The most amount of hp for an integra i've heard of was a turboed type R with 475hp at 28psi, I was thiking bout getting a GS-R and buying an complete engine from jgenginedynamics.com and turboing since it's stated to be able to handle 60psi

60psi!? wtf are you talking about. No way! I will garantee you that no engine from JG is able to handle even 40psi

b18ls
11-19-2004, 01:37 PM
We were talking about N/A motors, meaning no turbo or supercharger. See quote below.

350hp is a near impossible feat for a N/A integra. and they would be runnin less than 13's.
And then you said...
350 hp isnt impossible, i know plenty, and i have even seen a 515 hp one.
This lead everyone to believe you were refering to a 515HP N/A engine, which the one in the video clearly was not. Simple mistake on your part. Nice video though. Good find!

knorwj
11-19-2004, 08:16 PM
here is a video of a gsr on a dyno 515 hp.
http://cs.widener.edu/~epanek/MikesGSRDyno.mpg



Ummm do you need a definition of N/A???? because that is what we were all talking about buddy. That car is obviously a turbo beast that you just showed us, and while a beautiful car and video it does not pertain in the slightest to anything we were discussing.

97integrals
11-19-2004, 10:17 PM
I still can't believe that guy said 60psi!!!! you show me a car with 60 psi and i'll show you a pig with wings!!!

knorwj
11-19-2004, 11:22 PM
I still can't believe that guy said 60psi!!!! you show me a car with 60 psi and i'll show you a pig with wings!!!


actually I believe there are quite a few vehicles running at least 4 bar (60 psi) at the tracks. I have heard of alot of trucks running it also. alot of diesels running that high too.

As far as an import well I've heard that golden eagle can build you a block no problem to run that high of a PSI, here is their website.
http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/

97integrals
11-20-2004, 12:13 AM
actually I believe there are quite a few vehicles running at least 4 bar (60 psi) at the tracks. I have heard of alot of trucks running it also. alot of diesels running that high too.

As far as an import well I've heard that golden eagle can build you a block no problem to run that high of a PSI, here is their website.
http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com/


If you haven't noticed we are in an Integra forum so I was referring to Integra's and anyways I have never seen a car run that high, 40psi is about as high as I have ever heard of. I see nothing on Golden Eagle's web site that even comes close to a claim of building an engine to withstand 60 psi.

knorwj
11-20-2004, 01:08 AM
I see nothing on Golden Eagle's web site that even comes close to a claim of building an engine to withstand 60 psi.


well how do you think those civics are running 700-800 HP that they have featured on there? on hopes and dreams?


And I didn't see anything on their website either claiming actual numbers but when I googled 60 psi or even 60 psi of boost the golden eagle name came up a few times. not to mention I have heard that they are one of the stongest engines out there for the strip.

All i'm trying to say is that 4 bar is not unheard of nor is it impossible. With the right amount of money and time they can build anything.

95dxcivic
11-21-2004, 03:38 PM
well how do you think those civics are running 700-800 HP that they have featured on there? on hopes and dreams?


F&F!

I was like 13 or 14 when I watched that movie over and over.

kornflakes28546
11-21-2004, 06:34 PM
who said anything about F&F? we're talking about REAL cars.

knorwj
11-21-2004, 08:40 PM
F&F!

I was like 13 or 14 when I watched that movie over and over.



holy crap you're right! damn I have to go bang my head into a wall now. I didn't even realize that when I typed it. haha good catch though.

SiGNAL748
11-21-2004, 08:47 PM
here is a video of a gsr on a dyno 515 hp.
http://cs.widener.edu/~epanek/MikesGSRDyno.mpg

Are you retarded or something? that gsr is not n/a.

95dxcivic
11-22-2004, 07:32 PM
holy crap you're right! damn I have to go bang my head into a wall now. I didn't even realize that when I typed it. haha good catch though.

I didnt mean to diss you or anything, it just came to my mind as soon as I saw it.

integra_type-R
11-25-2004, 12:58 PM
60psi!? wtf are you talking about. No way! I will garantee you that no engine from JG is able to handle even 40psi

TRUEE!!!!

94tegRS
11-25-2004, 08:31 PM
how much boost is that teg running with the custon built 4.7 liter I think 4 cylinder with 1400 HP. I know it really isnt a teg anymore but it must be running a shitload of it. I also heard of a lude on 55 lbs but its like some big name companys car, not some private owner as far as I remember.

integrawhat
11-28-2004, 09:38 PM
so back to the original question, i have a friend that lives in japan he drove an all motor skyline and he said that there taxes and shit over there are real strick and all motor cars are cheaper to own/operate cuz they have some emisions taxes and a bunch of other crazy shit that make turbo cars expensive to drive.

94tegRS
11-28-2004, 10:26 PM
so many cars with stock turbos over there. that doesnt make sense to me. if its so expensive to own them why would so many models have them.


sounds like one of them kids that now that he said it the BS is just gonna keep flying to try and keep people thinking he knew what he was talking about.

Gotti
11-30-2004, 03:00 PM
so many cars with stock turbos over there. that doesnt make sense to me. if its so expensive to own them why would so many models have them.


sounds like one of them kids that now that he said it the BS is just gonna keep flying to try and keep people thinking he knew what he was talking about.


Theres so many turbo motors there cause its cheaper. They have to pay insurance by the amount of cylinders/liters their car has. So they like boosting 4 cylinder cars, cause they get power without having to pay the extra insurance

integrawhat
11-30-2004, 04:54 PM
sounds like one of them kids that now that he said it the BS is just gonna keep flying to try and keep people thinking he knew what he was talking about.

what?? maybe im just retarded but i cant make sence of what this says

just cuz they have a lot of models with turbos doesnt mean every body has one. we have a lot of high hp models with turbos here too but not alot of people can afford a new porche every five years.

Mannyb18b
11-30-2004, 05:07 PM
sounds like one of them kids that now that he said it the BS is just gonna keep flying to try and keep people thinking he knew what he was talking about.

Haha, ya seriously wtf does that say.

I also heard of a lude on 55 lbs but its like some big name companys car, not some private owner as far as I remember.

main word there...HEARD

kornflakes28546
11-30-2004, 05:57 PM
what hes saying is that the kid might have lied the first time and has to keep covering his ass by lying more, making people think he knows what hes talking about. why would 94tegRS BS about the lude? c'mon

x~Underoath~x
11-30-2004, 06:42 PM
[QUOTE=integrawhat]i have a friend that lives in japan he drove an all motor skyline QUOTE]


WTF, howd that happen? All motor Skyline? BS!

x~Underoath~x
11-30-2004, 06:46 PM
Off original topic, but mentioned earlier...Did I hear that it was better to go all motor with the GSR? Hmm, werd...whats the compression of the ITR compared to the GSR?

integrawhat
12-03-2004, 01:02 AM
[QUOTE=integrawhat]i have a friend that lives in japan he drove an all motor skyline QUOTE]


WTF, howd that happen? All motor Skyline? BS!

you dont think all skylines are turboed do you? it was an r32 gt and it wasnt turboed he wasnt into racing and he ended up crushing the car. the gt-r is the all wheel drive all wheel steering 2.6 litre twin turbo I6 that is detuned to 276hp from the factory that you might be thinking of and the gt-s is rear wheel drive but MOST skylines for sale arent turboed. feel free to call bs when you ACTUALY know what your talking about though

x~Underoath~x
12-03-2004, 02:28 PM
I wasnt callin a BS dude...sorry bout that...i was saying like "Bullshit man, ive never heard of that." I had never even looked at the R32s, thats the reason. I personally like the R33s, being 2.5 single turbo RWD. I know a little, just not anything about the R32s. So, i apologize for the mis-stated "bullshit".

I guess thats just the way i talk frum where i come frum. yunno?

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