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Us Marines Murder Unarmed.


TRD2000
11-15-2004, 09:44 PM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20041116/ts_nm/iraq_marine_shooting_dc

I honestly wasn't expecting to see this. While it is well documented that the US military have no respect for human rights regarding prisoner abuse. And while they have shown they are inept at telling friend from foe, or precision striking anything where cicilians are nearby. We have seen tanks, jets, missiles and helicoptors misguided in attacks on civilians. But i honestly did not excpect to SEE, and am disappointed, that this has actually occurred.

I fully expect marines to kill innocent people by accident, however i did not expect to see them murdering unarmed people in this manner, whether they are innocent or not.

taranaki
11-15-2004, 10:50 PM
Find him and put him on trial. If he's guilty,jail him for life.NO EXCUSES.

Thourun
11-15-2004, 10:54 PM
where cicilians are nearby
lol funny typo.

Toksin
11-15-2004, 11:35 PM
Reports say the Marine in question is in custody at the moment.

thegladhatter
11-15-2004, 11:45 PM
While it is well documented that the US military have no respect for human rights regarding prisoner abuse. And while they have shown they are inept at telling friend from foe, or precision striking anything where cicilians are nearby.
On behalf of thousands of good soldiers...I take extreme offense at your ignorant and offensive post.
I fully expect marines to kill innocent people by accident, however i did not expect to see them murdering unarmed people in this manner, whether they are innocent or not.
You are much too quick to judge. Take a breath....think....or fuckoff!

-Josh-
11-16-2004, 12:06 AM
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20041116/ts_nm/iraq_marine_shooting_dc

I honestly wasn't expecting to see this. While it is well documented that the US military have no respect for human rights regarding prisoner abuse. And while they have shown they are inept at telling friend from foe, or precision striking anything where cicilians are nearby. We have seen tanks, jets, missiles and helicoptors misguided in attacks on civilians. But i honestly did not excpect to SEE, and am disappointed, that this has actually occurred.

I fully expect marines to kill innocent people by accident, however i did not expect to see them murdering unarmed people in this manner, whether they are innocent or not.

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Asshole


:1: to glad's post

T4 Primera
11-16-2004, 12:09 AM
I'm very surprised (well, not really) that this report made it out considering it came from an embed.

Why? - because leaving aside the obvious account of the incident, the report narrative and video are heavily loaded with subliminal suggestions and stereotype reinforcements.

I can spot at least 4 without even putting my tin hat on. I don't intend to enter into debate about what they are or aren't - just flag it for people if they want to take a more critical look.

This might actually surprise some of you, but I can understand why that soldier acted that way. I don't condone it, but I can empathise with him in terms of what has occured to bring him to that point. All you need to do is listen carefully to the tone in his voice before the shooting and compare it with his tone afterwards.

aloharocky
11-16-2004, 01:34 AM
Why all the outrage? American civilians are the MAIN target of the terrorists. They are only fighting our military because they have to. They would much rather spend their time beheading American women, children, and anyone else that can't defend themselves.

taranaki
11-16-2004, 03:03 AM
Why all the outrage? American civilians are the MAIN target of the terrorists. They are only fighting our military because they have to. They would much rather spend their time beheading American women, children, and anyone else that can't defend themselves.

list all of the American women and children beheaded by terrorists,please .Or stop posting utter bilge.

Now, if you wish to continue claiming that America has the moral high ground,steps have to be taken to ensure that this is based on fact and not merely on rhetoric. This incident clearly breaches what is commonly held to be acceptable behaviour in a theatre of war [although such incidents happen frequently in any war], and the evidence is on film for all to see.There can be no question that the man was shot while on the ground, unarmed, and not threatening harm to anyone.


aloharocky asks - Why all the outrage? In return I'd ask, at what point would you draw the line? Would you still defend the soldier if he was raping a 12 year old girl in front of her family? Because so far,I am struggling to see any comprehension of civilised behavior on your part.

There is outrage because this soldier's behaviour is outrageous.Simple as that.

Murco
11-16-2004, 03:31 AM
I honestly wasn't expecting to see this. While it is well documented that the US military have no respect for human rights regarding prisoner abuse. And while they have shown they are inept at telling friend from foe, or precision striking anything where civilians are nearby..
From this Marine to you, and on the bahalf of Marines everywhere, a great big Fuck You!
I fully expect marines to kill innocent people by accident, however i did not expect to see them murdering unarmed people in this manner, whether they are innocent or not.
And the Marines never expected war crimes...
Boobytrapped bodies
False surrenders
Combatants wearing police uniforms...
You twits scream "they deserve Geneva Convention POW treatment" as if we should follow international laws of warfare with these thugs but if they break ILOW you'll trip over yourself justifying the act...
And the Marine who did this had just been shot in the face the day before, and the platoon just lost a man to a boobytrapped dead body within the 10 minutes before! Given the situation, what would you do?!

thegladhatter
11-16-2004, 03:36 AM
Semper Fi, Murco!!

taranaki
11-16-2004, 04:22 AM
From this Marine to you, and on the bahalf of Marines everywhere, a great big Fuck You!


Any more of that behaviour and you will be banned. This is a civilised debating arena,if you can't handle it,stay out of it.

Heep
11-16-2004, 05:55 AM
Why all the outrage? American civilians are the MAIN target of the terrorists. They are only fighting our military because they have to. They would much rather spend their time beheading American women, children, and anyone else that can't defend themselves.

Two wrongs don't make a right, buddy. :nono:

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