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diffence between sil80 and 240sx


rendertrust
11-13-2004, 10:04 PM
well i had always thought the sil80 was a mix of the 180sx and silvia but i wasnt sure if it was named the 240sx, i like the looks of the 240 a little more than my 1990 300zx what do you guys think ?

LaYzIeNoY
11-13-2004, 10:56 PM
the sil80 was a rare nissan that was produce in very limited quantity, and from what i have read online [kind of believe its false unsure though], the original sil80's were made by drifters, basically people that had 180sx's when they would get into accidents drifting down mountains they would purchase silvia front end becuase they were cheaper due to longer production and i guess the pop up lights were exspensive, without going to shops i guess mount the new front, due to increase in occurance of this nissan decided to make a test batch.

it was a cross between the 180sx and the silvia, basically the 180 with the front of the silvia

the 180sx is the 240sx fastback, and the silvia looked like the S13 coupe except with headlights that didnt pop up

ya i like the 240 look over the 300zx late model, well at least the fastback 240, the coupes i think i would choose the 300zx

the name 240sx originated from the engine size just like 200sx, 2000 NX, 300zx,350z, and i think also for infiniti Q45, G35

240sx = 2.4 liter, 300 = 3.0, etc

Toksin
11-14-2004, 12:09 AM
Pretty much on the money. The Japanese drifters started doing Sileighty conversions because the Silvia headlights were a lot cheaper than the 180SX popup ones.

Not 100% who actually built the factory Sileighties, I heard it was an independent workshop, not sure how many they built either.

thegladhatter
11-14-2004, 01:31 AM
Not 100% who actually built the factory Sileighties, I heard it was an independent workshop, not sure how many they built either.
KidsHeart built the actual Sileighties. As I understand they were distributed through Nissan dealers one year only. KidsHeart still does the conversions. When Nissan dealers were distributing them only a handful were actually sold. ...maybe 500.

S13wanabe
11-14-2004, 10:27 AM
One other reason the silvia front end is pt on is because it is lighter than the pop-up headlights 180sx front end. Just thought I would throw it in. I personally think if you have a fast back model 240, keep it that way. If you have the coupe 240, then do the silvia conversion. I like the cars to look how they were meant to be.

LaYzIeNoY
11-14-2004, 12:08 PM
ya rather than doing a sil80 type look to my fastback i was going to make it look like the 180sx type X

oh i didnt know that the car was produced by a thirdparty, but i do remember that the number sold was somewhere like 400 to 500 it wasn't too big

Chuki_breath
11-14-2004, 09:36 PM
wait a second...i just realized..well i dont know. Did coupes come with flip ups at all in japan??? maybe america has there own version of a sil40 but reversed lolol joking(silvia rear 240 front) it just popped in my head. As it is not really called a sil40 but you get the concept of what im saying i hope. And i dont mean that we really got a version of sil40(so i dont confuse the noobies even more) thats american style im just stating the whole reverse issue if the coupes didnt come with pop ups in japan(if they did disregard this post and call me a douche). It would be an american style!!!!!! now way, pimp tyte usdm yo!!!! im not much of a "coupe" person so thats why i sound dumb, but are our coupes rear ends the same as silvia's of japan? im pretty sure they are maybe with a few minor details.

R.W.240
11-14-2004, 09:54 PM
good lord...
















time to thow away the bong...

RedFC3S
11-14-2004, 09:58 PM
time to thow away the bong...

NEVAR!!!1!1!!

logik23
11-15-2004, 12:03 AM
wait a second...i just realized..well i dont know. Did coupes come with flip ups at all in japan??? maybe america has there own version of a sil40 but reversed lolol joking(silvia rear 240 front) it just popped in my head. As it is not really called a sil40 but you get the concept of what im saying i hope. And i dont mean that we really got a version of sil40(so i dont confuse the noobies even more) thats american style im just stating the whole reverse issue if the coupes didnt come with pop ups in japan(if they did disregard this post and call me a douche). It would be an american style!!!!!! now way, pimp tyte usdm yo!!!! im not much of a "coupe" person so thats why i sound dumb, but are our coupes rear ends the same as silvia's of japan? im pretty sure they are maybe with a few minor details.


The coupe with pop-ups would be called the One-Via I guess.

J SPEC SilEighty
11-15-2004, 02:39 AM
time to thow away the bong...

:eek: how could you say such a thing?

S13wanabe
11-15-2004, 10:40 AM
Yes it's called a Onevia. You rarely see them in Japan, but occasionally someone wants to be different so they do it. So yes in the US we got 180SX and Onevia, and then of course the s14.

Only stupid retards smoke pot. Have some respect for yourself.

J SPEC SilEighty
11-15-2004, 11:27 AM
Only stupid retards smoke pot. Have some respect for yourself.

who said anything about smoking pot?

sidewayzS13
11-15-2004, 12:35 PM
i saw i picture of i guess it would be a oneline once it was kinda tight and whos smoking pot ? jspec if ur smoking out w/o me my feelings are hurt

logik23
11-15-2004, 12:41 PM
i saw i picture of i guess it would be a oneline once it was kinda tight and whos smoking pot ? jspec if ur smoking out w/o me my feelings are hurt

What the fuck is a Oneline?

And only 14 year old losers smoke pot.

Chuki_breath
11-15-2004, 12:49 PM
yea pot is for losers....but crack on the other hand is...naaa marijuana is part of culture, nowadays blown out of proportion but i admit i hit it every once and a while. wait this isnt the drug forum my bad. Back to CARS!!!!!

AWDSR20
11-15-2004, 03:16 PM
sil80....made up??????? (nissan did not produce it)
180 true
slvia true

?????????

Toksin
11-15-2004, 04:07 PM
Silvia:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/DaveD1NZ/5.jpg

180SX: (this is a Type X but you get the idea)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/DaveD1NZ/3.jpg

Sileighty: (nowadays custom conversions, but there were a few "official" ones made by KidsHeart [thanks Jeff])
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/DaveD1NZ/23.jpg

Onevia: (your 240SX coupe - USA only or conversion everywhere else)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v521/DaveD1NZ/blackonevia.jpg

thegladhatter
11-15-2004, 04:20 PM
What the fuck is a Oneline?
Oneline was a company that made after-market tails for Silvias and 180s that were kind of cool. They went out of business a few years back. Their tailights were sort of like custom kouki lights on the 180.

AWDSR20
11-16-2004, 12:48 AM
Toksin swwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeettt pix dude TNXS!!!

Toksin
11-16-2004, 02:29 AM
Toksin swwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeettt pix dude TNXS!!!

All the pics except the Onevia I took myself ;)

thegladhatter
11-16-2004, 02:54 AM
Maybe THAT is why the Onevia is my LEAST favorite of those. The Onevia takes the worst part of the Silvia and the worst part of the 180 and combines them for the WORST hybrid drift car of all. Hell a nice pignoser is better than a Onevia.

That Silvia is sure mad-sweet though!

Toksin
11-16-2004, 03:45 AM
Maybe THAT is why the Onevia is my LEAST favorite of those. The Onevia takes the worst part of the Silvia and the worst part of the 180 and combines them for the WORST hybrid drift car of all. Hell a nice pignoser is better than a Onevia.

That Silvia is sure mad-sweet though!

HERETIC!! I love the flip lights...soon as I find a suitable front end I'm doing the Onevia conversion. To each their own though.

That Silvia is mad-sweet indeed. GTR Wheels, custom NZ made kit, SR20, HKS Hipermax D suspension...goes hard :D

rZ12
11-16-2004, 11:51 AM
HERETIC!! I love the flip lights...soon as I find a suitable front end I'm doing the Onevia conversion. To each their own though.

That Silvia is mad-sweet indeed. GTR Wheels, custom NZ made kit, SR20, HKS Hipermax D suspension...goes hard :D

Agreed! Order of sexyness as follows:
1. 180sx Type-X
2. Onevia
3. Sileighty
4. Silvia

SHIFT_KA24DE
11-16-2004, 12:06 PM
i think the 180sx type X takes the cake... then the s13 silvia...

Chuki_breath
11-16-2004, 12:20 PM
agree 180sx is what made me really like these cars. But i would take any kind.

AWDSR20
11-16-2004, 03:37 PM
i think the 180sx type X takes the cake... then the s13 silvia...

yep!!!!! agreee!!!
180sx, typ X....ohhhhh man....

thegladhatter
11-16-2004, 04:34 PM
Agreed! Order of sexyness as follows:
1. 180sx Type-X
2. Onevia
3. Sileighty
4. Silvia

Rather...
1. Sileighty
2. Silvia
3. 180 T-X
4. S15
5. S14 Kouki
6. Onevia
7. S14 Zenki

:D

R.W.240
11-16-2004, 06:06 PM
1.) Sil Eighty. :uhoh:
2.) Kouki 180SX
3.) Kouki S14
4.) Silvia S13
5.) One-Via S13
6.) S15


IBflamesforplacingS15last

AWDSR20
11-16-2004, 09:53 PM
s15 LAST what !!!!!!
can't agree with u on that one!!!!!

Suislide
11-17-2004, 01:06 AM
1.)S14 Kouki
2.)Kouki 180SX
3.)S15
4.)Sileighty
4.) (tie) S13 Silvia
5.)other 180SX (zenki and chouki)
7.)One-via (if it's done nicely like the one Toksin posted)
8.) S14 Zenki

but then again, it all depends on how the car is modified. this is just a rough listing. there's some S14 zenki's, Sileighies etc. that are hotter then some S14 Kouki's and some S15's.

rZ12
11-17-2004, 06:33 AM
1.)S14 Kouki
2.)Kouki 180SX
3.)S15
4.)Sileighty
4.) (tie) S13 Silvia
5.)other 180SX (zenki and chouki)
7.)One-via (if it's done nicely like the one Toksin posted)
8.) S14 Zenki

but then again, it all depends on how the car is modified. this is just a rough listing. there's some S14 zenki's, Sileighies etc. that are hotter then some S14 Kouki's and some S15's.

Forgive my complete unknowledge of silvia's but what are each of 'kouki', 'zenki', & 'chouki' silvias? I'm guessing at least one of those involves the front of an s15 (so-called 'strawberry face' conversion where i'm from)

SHIFT_KA24DE
11-17-2004, 07:14 AM
their just japanese terms....

zenki - where zen means "pre-" or "before" and ki is just a term to describe a machine, trasnportation, etc... (i.e. - fighter jet is called sentouki... sentou means battle or war and ki is the term for machine.)
chuki - so you can guess now that "chu" means middle, or in between...
Kouki - where "kou" meaning "after" or "later," which describes the latest generation of the specific model.

comprende?

rZ12
11-17-2004, 08:52 AM
their just japanese terms....

zenki - where zen means "pre-" or "before" and ki is just a term to describe a machine, trasnportation, etc... (i.e. - fighter jet is called sentouki... sentou means battle or war and ki is the term for machine.)
chuki - so you can guess now that "chu" means middle, or in between...
Kouki - where "kou" meaning "after" or "later," which describes the latest generation of the specific model.

comprende?

ok so.. zenki being 1st run of 180sx's with the ca18, chuki & kouki being the 2 later model 180sx's with sr20's, the kouki having the nice rear lights =) entiendes amigo! (spanish probably worse than my japanese)

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