A bunch-o-questions, pleez help
big_sam_2004
11-13-2004, 03:03 PM
Sorry If I'm dumb 4 askin all of this, but Im getting a car in late Jan./early Feb . and I have 3 options, 93-97 camaro Z28 M6 w/ T-Tops, 91-93 3000gt M5, or a 93-96 caprice. I cant find too many Z28's like that still in good condition, and maintainence on a 3000gt is a bitch I heard, so I want to know a little more about a caprice. I know that the years I'm looking at it had a 4.3 a 5.0 and a LT1 (5.7). the LT1 I know about already because of the camaro, but the other 2 I cant find any info for, so here it goes:
1) Do they give that mean LOUD growl when you put an exhaust system on it?
2) I dont know anything about bore and stroke, but i think it makes the engine bigger, how big can these be? comparable to the LT1?
3) Are mods easy to find?
4) Whats The Best Exhaust?
5) reasonable to maintain?
6) on the 94 - 96, can you convert the digital dash to analog (bad exp. with digital dashes)
7) if I find a digital dash car, will the mileage be screwed because of dash malfunction?
thanks in advance for all of yer help!
1) Do they give that mean LOUD growl when you put an exhaust system on it?
2) I dont know anything about bore and stroke, but i think it makes the engine bigger, how big can these be? comparable to the LT1?
3) Are mods easy to find?
4) Whats The Best Exhaust?
5) reasonable to maintain?
6) on the 94 - 96, can you convert the digital dash to analog (bad exp. with digital dashes)
7) if I find a digital dash car, will the mileage be screwed because of dash malfunction?
thanks in advance for all of yer help!
big_sam_2004
11-13-2004, 03:13 PM
Oh and is it easy to put a sunroof in like the impala SS's?
TommySS
11-13-2004, 07:27 PM
RUN AWAY from the 3000
You'll be happy in the F-bod, but insurance is a bear.
What is it that you want this car to do? Go fast? Look cool? Be easy on the wallet? Remember, you can't get all 3, but you can compromise one for another.
Anyway, unless you're running a 350, the (4.3, and 5.0) engines don't have enough oomph to get the Caprice moving fast enough. It's a heavy car.
Exhaust sound is a function of the muffler (or lack thereof). You can get it to sound good, but the car still won't move fast enough.
Don't waste your money on stroking a 4.3/5.0. For not a lot of $$, you can get a new crate engine.
Mods are no different than on other SBC engines, but with a 350, you have a much better starting point.
Exhaust = your choice (how much do you wanna spend?) Magnaflow is a good one.
Caprice is an easy car to maintain/work on because you can get at everything a lot easier than on an F-bod.
No experience w/digital dashes (I do not like them).
You may need to reset the odometer (easy on analog, no experience w/digital)
Good luck.
You'll be happy in the F-bod, but insurance is a bear.
What is it that you want this car to do? Go fast? Look cool? Be easy on the wallet? Remember, you can't get all 3, but you can compromise one for another.
Anyway, unless you're running a 350, the (4.3, and 5.0) engines don't have enough oomph to get the Caprice moving fast enough. It's a heavy car.
Exhaust sound is a function of the muffler (or lack thereof). You can get it to sound good, but the car still won't move fast enough.
Don't waste your money on stroking a 4.3/5.0. For not a lot of $$, you can get a new crate engine.
Mods are no different than on other SBC engines, but with a 350, you have a much better starting point.
Exhaust = your choice (how much do you wanna spend?) Magnaflow is a good one.
Caprice is an easy car to maintain/work on because you can get at everything a lot easier than on an F-bod.
No experience w/digital dashes (I do not like them).
You may need to reset the odometer (easy on analog, no experience w/digital)
Good luck.
big_sam_2004
11-14-2004, 03:59 AM
thanks alot, i really appreciate your input, now i got a few things to think about!
I want it to go fast and look cool at the same time, i dont race, but when i hit the gas, I wanna feel it pull me back!
I want it to go fast and look cool at the same time, i dont race, but when i hit the gas, I wanna feel it pull me back!
HLandin
11-14-2004, 08:18 PM
While on the topic of exhaust systems, does anyone know where I can find a complete dual exhaust system with dual cats and dual mufflers for my '90 Caprice?
CD Smalley
11-14-2004, 09:15 PM
Sure HLandin, start by heading to one of the ImpSS sites and buy the complete system that some has taken off there ImpSS or 94-96 9c1.
HLandin
11-15-2004, 07:16 PM
Sure HLandin, start by heading to one of the ImpSS sites and buy the complete system that some has taken off there ImpSS or 94-96 9c1.
Later models are compatible? I know they did some minor changes between years of caprice and I was not sure if equipment designed for later years would be backward compatible. Thanks.
Later models are compatible? I know they did some minor changes between years of caprice and I was not sure if equipment designed for later years would be backward compatible. Thanks.
CD Smalley
11-15-2004, 07:56 PM
You will need the transmission crossmember, modified slightly. and can reverse some of the hangers for the left side. But using a set of LT1 exhaust manifolds will allow it to almost completely bolt in....
TommySS
11-17-2004, 09:15 PM
A good muffler shop can custom bend one for you for a LOT less than a pre-fab unit.
They can't alter the location of the cat(s) though.
They can't alter the location of the cat(s) though.
PeteA216
11-20-2004, 12:17 AM
Yeah, thats the best way to go... You might have to run the pipes parrallel to each other due to lack of space.
Hooptie
11-22-2004, 01:04 PM
1) Do they give that mean LOUD growl when you put an exhaust system on it?
2) I dont know anything about bore and stroke, but i think it makes the engine bigger, how big can these be? comparable to the LT1?
3) Are mods easy to find?
4) Whats The Best Exhaust?
5) reasonable to maintain?
6) on the 94 - 96, can you convert the digital dash to analog (bad exp. with digital dashes)
7) if I find a digital dash car, will the mileage be screwed because of dash malfunction?
1) 4.3=262 5.0=305 5.7=350
They should all give you a good small block rumble, but I'd recomend the 5.0 and the 5.7. Not because they are better, they are just cheaper to upgrade and therefor have more potential per dollar.
2)I aree that you shouldn't mess with building a 4.3 or a 5.0
3) Mods are plentiful. Check out some of the Impala and B-body sites. They will have tons of tips and tricks.
4)Any thing mandel bent and free flowing is best. The reason why you pay more for a bolt up system is that they are mandrel bent, unlike your local exhast shop. This makes the diameter of the pipe the same front to back, even in the bents(aka no wrinkles or kinks)
5)About the same as a Camaro. Don't know anything about a 300GT
6)Yes you can convert to analog. With a little engineering you can put in a Camaro analog cluster
7) Maybe, I dunno
Hope this helps
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2) I dont know anything about bore and stroke, but i think it makes the engine bigger, how big can these be? comparable to the LT1?
3) Are mods easy to find?
4) Whats The Best Exhaust?
5) reasonable to maintain?
6) on the 94 - 96, can you convert the digital dash to analog (bad exp. with digital dashes)
7) if I find a digital dash car, will the mileage be screwed because of dash malfunction?
1) 4.3=262 5.0=305 5.7=350
They should all give you a good small block rumble, but I'd recomend the 5.0 and the 5.7. Not because they are better, they are just cheaper to upgrade and therefor have more potential per dollar.
2)I aree that you shouldn't mess with building a 4.3 or a 5.0
3) Mods are plentiful. Check out some of the Impala and B-body sites. They will have tons of tips and tricks.
4)Any thing mandel bent and free flowing is best. The reason why you pay more for a bolt up system is that they are mandrel bent, unlike your local exhast shop. This makes the diameter of the pipe the same front to back, even in the bents(aka no wrinkles or kinks)
5)About the same as a Camaro. Don't know anything about a 300GT
6)Yes you can convert to analog. With a little engineering you can put in a Camaro analog cluster
7) Maybe, I dunno
Hope this helps
:smile: :smile:
big_sam_2004
11-22-2004, 03:29 PM
thanks alot everybody i appreciate it
Monte_SS
11-29-2004, 10:08 PM
I cut my tranny mount and re welded so the exhaust would fit down the drivers side. Took some time but duel exhaust clearence was no longer an issue...
ebones
12-18-2004, 01:30 AM
Sorry If I'm dumb 4 askin all of this, but Im getting a car in late Jan./early Feb . and I have 3 options, 93-97 camaro Z28 M6 w/ T-Tops, 91-93 3000gt M5, or a 93-96 caprice. I cant find too many Z28's like that still in good condition, and maintainence on a 3000gt is a bitch I heard, so I want to know a little more about a caprice. I know that the years I'm looking at it had a 4.3 a 5.0 and a LT1 (5.7). the LT1 I know about already because of the camaro, but the other 2 I cant find any info for, so here it goes:
1) Do they give that mean LOUD growl when you put an exhaust system on it?
2) I dont know anything about bore and stroke, but i think it makes the engine bigger, how big can these be? comparable to the LT1?
3) Are mods easy to find?
4) Whats The Best Exhaust?
5) reasonable to maintain?
6) on the 94 - 96, can you convert the digital dash to analog (bad exp. with digital dashes)
7) if I find a digital dash car, will the mileage be screwed because of dash malfunction?
thanks in advance for all of yer help!
first off a LT1 is a lot better than 305 GM 5.0 that comes in a box caprice and a 85' camaro and the newer camaro have the Ls1 not the LT1 I don't think.. some mite do, and the caprice with the 9C1 4.3 police/security cars have single Exhaust Systems, the caprice with a true LT1 has dual Exhaust and posi rear end great for burnouts and yes with a caprice or impala ss you can do a lot more performents. parts than camaro, they have borla Exhaust,flowmasters or a cheaper types if you want too, a performents chip workes good too and the only time it's good to bore and stroke is when your going to burn alcohol fuel, if you wont some really fast fun nitro in a supercharge LT1 but that's a little to much for me. no you would have to take it to a chevy dealer and have them roll the miles back on the digital cluster it will cost
1) Do they give that mean LOUD growl when you put an exhaust system on it?
2) I dont know anything about bore and stroke, but i think it makes the engine bigger, how big can these be? comparable to the LT1?
3) Are mods easy to find?
4) Whats The Best Exhaust?
5) reasonable to maintain?
6) on the 94 - 96, can you convert the digital dash to analog (bad exp. with digital dashes)
7) if I find a digital dash car, will the mileage be screwed because of dash malfunction?
thanks in advance for all of yer help!
first off a LT1 is a lot better than 305 GM 5.0 that comes in a box caprice and a 85' camaro and the newer camaro have the Ls1 not the LT1 I don't think.. some mite do, and the caprice with the 9C1 4.3 police/security cars have single Exhaust Systems, the caprice with a true LT1 has dual Exhaust and posi rear end great for burnouts and yes with a caprice or impala ss you can do a lot more performents. parts than camaro, they have borla Exhaust,flowmasters or a cheaper types if you want too, a performents chip workes good too and the only time it's good to bore and stroke is when your going to burn alcohol fuel, if you wont some really fast fun nitro in a supercharge LT1 but that's a little to much for me. no you would have to take it to a chevy dealer and have them roll the miles back on the digital cluster it will cost
Hooptie
12-18-2004, 02:17 AM
What are you talking about? Just for the record:
The LT1 was in the Camaro 93-97 and the Impala/Caprice 94-96 LS-1 was 98-02
I have no clue on the exhaust, but the Posi (G80) was an option, no matter what the engine. AKA not all LT1's have posi's.
I would have to disagree on the amount of performance part for the Impala SS vs. Camaro. But there are alot of parts out there for the Impala.
And I"m not even going to comment on the chip and bore/stroke comment.
In closing I don't think he want's a digital dash, he want's analogue and it can be done without going to the dealer.
The LT1 was in the Camaro 93-97 and the Impala/Caprice 94-96 LS-1 was 98-02
I have no clue on the exhaust, but the Posi (G80) was an option, no matter what the engine. AKA not all LT1's have posi's.
I would have to disagree on the amount of performance part for the Impala SS vs. Camaro. But there are alot of parts out there for the Impala.
And I"m not even going to comment on the chip and bore/stroke comment.
In closing I don't think he want's a digital dash, he want's analogue and it can be done without going to the dealer.
burnM
12-18-2004, 06:59 PM
You can swap an analog cluster for the digital. Grab one from a Z-28, there is a bit of soldering to do to make everything work properly, but it's not that hard to do.
Mods are real easy to find for the Caprices/Impalas. Check out this site for a host of info
http://impalassforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
But read before you ask. Everything's been covered 10 times over.
Mods are real easy to find for the Caprices/Impalas. Check out this site for a host of info
http://impalassforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
But read before you ask. Everything's been covered 10 times over.
Countilaw
12-20-2004, 03:10 AM
If you caprice came from the factory with single exhausts, you can not convert to duals without violating Federal EPA Laws. I think the last word from EPA it was a $10,000 fine for modifing any emissions equipment of any vehicle less than 25 years old.
Countilaw
Countilaw
tomogchi
12-20-2004, 05:56 PM
IF you really wanna get people to talk... '94 (? not totlay sure on the years.,...)Go get a caprice./.... the lt1 models, are mostely posi, and man.... they will growl, and will,as chevy fans know, they WILL light the tires. They WILL pick up and go. They WILL live forever (if you mantian your car every now and then). THEY WILL PISS SOME PEOPLE OFF! know any body thats ever owned a caprice and did simple but nice mods to it? man...... they be sooo nice... And seen and noprmal cars (like a....sedan type car) that could hand a caprice its a$$? stock? dont think so... least from my experiance. BTW----> Roadmasters are basicly te same as a caprice, and most of the roadmasters and caprcies partys are interchangeable, so easy to find parts.
Hooptie
12-21-2004, 04:29 AM
Cadillac Fleetwoods and Olds Custom Crusiers of the same years have the LT1 too.
ebones
01-04-2005, 11:29 AM
The fleetwood,roadmaster and the impala ss are great b-body cars, but the IMPALA SS and the caprice with a police package. will piss off a import driver :smokin:
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