WRX or RSX type S ???

17 thousand dollars... i inherited my uncles unmortgaged estate and sold it recently. I just bought an rsx but i dont know much about cars. i brought it in to schmidt's in st cloud and told them i had a shitload of money and wanted to max the car out... he showed me lots of things like the difference btw turbos and supers and tires and stuff. anyway my younger brother is kind of obsessed with this stuff so i thought it would be cool to soup it up so i spent overall about 26,000 extra on it. it looks nice. i just got this kodak camera and the people at walmart showed me how to use it i'll have a pic up soon.

they also said it was so nice that i could enter it at this big race in minneapolis and they would have a guy from the store drive it. so i said yes and they had it all decorated and stuff. pics are coming.

Originally posted by Drifter To Be
hmm...
Really? I didn't know that...
Sorry but I still believe that Honda cars are better.
and I'd prefer the Lancer Evolution over Impreza.
Just from looks, performance, etc.
(Subaru doesn't have much cars do they?)
:rolleyes:


yeah id prefer the lancer evo over my impreza too... if i had another $14,000 to spend. why dont we compare it to the lancer oz rally, thats way more in the price range. wait, where did the lancer come into this in the 1st place? enlighten me please, WHY are we talking about lancers again?

"subaru doesnt have much cars"

no, they dont. only the impreza rs, impreza ts, OBS, legacy sedan, legacy wagon, forester, wrx sedan, wrx wagon, and the baja, thats 9. how many does honda have? 10? thats if you count the civic hybrid as separate from the regular civic, and the accord coupe and sedan as separate. and acura? they have 6... yeah, theyve got WAY more models than subaru :rolleyes:

ill belive the twin turbo rsx when i see it. the whole list just sounds like a fast and furious wish list.

Originally posted by Brian Spilner
3 honda civics... turbos, with NOS, and a motec system exhaust

Originally posted by CaptainRSX
RSX Type S... Twin Turbo... nitrous... HKS exhaust system

anybody else seeing the similarity there?



also, WHO in the HELL would bother to mention the manufacturer of something as mundane as their exhaust or brakes, but NOT the manufacturer of their "twin turbo" system? also, after all the extensive engine mods it would take to run twin turbos and nitrous on an rsx, who would even mention the exhaust period? theres bound to be WAY more costly parts in there. like the fully programmable engine management hes gonna need for all that?

oh yeah... twin turbo, on an rsx? WHY? :rolleyes:

haha a twin turbo 2.0 inline 4, by the time it spools up, the thing already ran a 20 sec 1/4 mile.......that's w/ nos. come on man, do some research before making up those crazy stories. I wonder why supra owners swap their tt setup and put in a single?? do they want to decrease their hp?? sorry, I should stop confusing those ricers.

I have an 02 Rex - up-pipe to eliminate first cat, under-drives, K&N, dime store manual boost controller - and I run consistently in the 13.50s with factory tires and rims. Someone said that the WRX is just a rally car.... they're wrong. The AWD Subes are even better on the street; power AND traction is everything. I have spent all of $350 and have a ride that spanks V8's and most other rice rockets. 12 seconds is just a little money away. PLUS, I usually get about 23 mpg driving the dog sh*t out of it every day. On the interstate I get 25-27 no prob. Plus, everyone is always asking "what kinda car is that... sure is pretty!":D

Did I mention that the handling is top notch even on crappy RE92s??

Find me an 02 Honda with the same performance, stock or otherwise, for $24K... and I'll race it! hehe

Oh yeah, almost forgot... for those who don't like the bug eyes... the new model is coming and the bug eyes are gone... kinda look like RSX lights. Due as '04 models I believe.

Just my $0,02

B-Kerr

girls like rsx better.....i like both. i wanted rsx wit ings kit then i saw the sti wrx wit kaminari kit....now im stuck.

And too bad the WRX's have glass transmissions.

personally i like the RSX, cuz WRX is really BUTT-UGLY! they both great cars, and yeah, WRX got a lil more power. however, if u can wait, RSX Type-R should come out next year or so...then we'll c if WRX can match up to it then!

actually, if i have the moeny, i wouldn't choose either one of them. with the money that you need to spend to modifie those cars, i would rather buy a Nissan 350Z. Z is fast and luxury....just everything you loooking for in a sports car, and the base modle is $27000 at MSRP...can't beat that!

The Z is a beast though, it's like 3200 pounds or something. DAMN !!

And they aren't the best looking cars either, they look better in pictures.

Originally posted by draguN177
girls like rsx better.....i like both. i wanted rsx wit ings kit then i saw the sti wrx wit kaminari kit....now im stuck.

This girl likes the WRX better.:rolleyes:

I'm in the market for a small wagon / hatchback, so I test drove the WRX wagon and the base RSX (both with auto transmission). The WRX was a lot more fun to drive on the streets. The RSX just did not have much going in the low and mid rpm's.

I guess it just depends on what one wants out of a car:

RSX
1) beautiful interior
2) bland, inoffensive exterior
3) cramped rear seats and cargo
4) leather and sunroof
5) less performance at low rpm
6) people who don't know about cars will respect your Acura badge

WRX
1) so-so interior (except for the MOMO steering wheel...)
2) ugly/cute exterior
3) more rear seat and cargo room
4) no leather, no sunroof
5) more performance at low rpm
6) people who don't know about cars will think you're a granola for driving a Subaru

Personally, I prefer practicality and performance over luxury. But then, I think sunroof is for the weak.

Originally posted by antidote11
And too bad the WRX's have glass transmissions.

do they? man, somebody should tell that to my transmission. or one of the wrxs running 12's daily driven with no transmission problems. the problem is, people who dont know how to launch an awd car tear it up. if you know how to drive, the tranny is fine. that goes for ANY awd, not just the wrx. try clutch dropping at 7000rpm in an eclipse gsx or 3000gt vr4 or hell a 4wd blazer and see how long it lasts...

Sube's are ugly cars. they look like shit. they are fast but ugly get an rsx

Sube's are ugly cars. they look like shit. they are fast but ugly get an rsx

Yeh, and I couldn't care less about what girls like when it comes to cars.

But I have never heard of a twin-turbo on an RSX Type S, I think that would be a serious waste of time, money and tuning.

Originally posted by e23k13l420
Sube's are ugly cars. they look like shit. they are fast but ugly get an rsx

dude, rsx's are way uglier. id rank an rsx in the top 10 ugliest cars sold today. they look like something a little kid drew while trying to draw a REAL integra. i mean, there is no style or class to them at all. im not saying the wrx looks good, but it sure as hell looks better. but since looks are only an opinion, they have no validity in this argument. so try to come up with a solid reason why the rsx is better if you wanna argue about it. i could name one, the rsx is more luxurious. i personally couldnt give a crap less about how luxurious it is, cuz my subaru has all the luxury i want, and i despise leather seats, but i would like to have a sunroof though.

Originally poster by antidote11
Yeh, and I couldn't care less about what girls like when it comes to cars.

me either. if youve gotta use your car to pick up girls in the 1st place, then you just suck. i buy a car for what i like, not what impresses others.

I agree with your second comment, but I disagree with the 1st one though. I think the RSXs look very cool, a little too high, but lowering down a touch can fix that problem, but I think they are very attractive cars. It's not like Pontiac Aztec or anything right ? :D

ive seen some rsx's that looked damn cool, like this one i saw a HIN in dallas

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/888211rsx11.JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/204576rsx22.JPG

i actually had a dream last night that i owned that car and my car.

but in stock form... eww. same with wrxs. when theyre stock theyre yucky, but modified, they look badass.

hello all....i think the rsx type s is what i would chose....a few reasons are because a stock wrx has 227 horse power and it has a factory turbo already...ONLY 27 more horse power WITH turbo...and the rsx s has 200 hp with out turbo.....and i read a few import magazines(IMPORT TUNER,IMPORT RACER, ECT...)and i have read recently in the IMPORT RACER magazine (december issue) that a turbo kit for the rsx s isout and it runs for about $4,600 and it adds a 100+hp gain to and already 200hp engine.....and the rsx s is around$24,000 and i heard the wrx is around $25 to 27k....now lets look at it for a sec...you buy the rsx s and the the turbo kit for it....im guessen thats about $28,600 for a 300+hp car....and the wrx has 227hp and its about 27k....come on now,thats about 1 or 2 thousend less then the rsx and a turbo kit for it.....and the rsx s is alot better looken i must say.....and im not sayen the wrx is ugly because i used to want it untill i started thinken about getten a rsx s(......lol...im only 16 and i dont have a car yet...but im tryen to get a rsx s.....i lack the money right now so im in a bind..)but ne way thats just how i see it...but then agine i did leave out some stuff about the AWD and stuff.....well thats all for now....

alright, im a honda lover but damn

my friend bought a brand new wrx turbo and that thing is BAD ASS! he added a 3 inch down pipe and a boost controller and it runs hard as hell. Just imagine w/o all the catalytic converters on it. It would breather so much easier and produce boost so much quicker. also the interior on this car is bad ass: momo steering wheel, pedals, and shift knob (not sure about the shift knob). The only complaint that i have on this car is not having a sunroof!!! man i would fall in love with this car 110% :).

The RSX-S is very impressive to me for a honda, it looks nice, comes with an awesome interior, very nice and strong motor (not to mention the new "i-vtec") and awesome gas mileage.

soontoberacer - okay youre just way wrong. a wrx costs $24k, the same as an rsx. for that $4,600 youre gonna put in the rsx to get 300hp, youre gonna have over 400hp in the wrx. not to mention you still wont have any traction problems thanks to the awd. with youre turbo kit on the rsx, youll be hitting mid to low 13's on cheater slicks. with the same money in the wrx, youre gonna be in the 12's on street tires and still have some money left over. the rsx is a decent little car, but no way does it have better bang for the buck than the wrx, at all.

and whats with this "only 27 more hp with turbo" crap? you realize the wrx only has 8.0 compression right? do you realize the potential for growth there? $50 will have you running consistent 13's on street tires. $2500 will have you in 12's. the rsx has 11.0 compression, thats why it "only" has 27 hp less without a turbo. that leaves (in my opinion) little or no room for growth without spending the big money, like that turbo kit you mentioned. and you know what happens when you do get that turbo kit? your warranty goes out the window. the wrx can make the same 300hp as that turbo rsx, while spending a lot less money, and all bolt on parts that you can easily remove if you need any warranty work.

ldelaysionl
Can I ask you a question? Why did you get a TS instead of a WRX Wagon or WRX Sedan? You seem to be in love with it ::licker:

Also do you feel a lot of regret about buying a TS instead of a WRX? I'm looking to buy new car soon and a WRX is a little too expensive in my view so I'm going for an RS. But if the WRX is really that good I might just go and buy that.

nah, the rs/ts is a great car. i dont have any regret. for $18,000 with standard features that are optional on just about any other car in its range, its a great buy.

idelaysion1...
now you are the one that is wrong....you say that i can only run mid to low 13s with 4600 dollars? hahahaha
lets see...14.9 from factory...14.7w/ aem cai.... i shaved a whole SECOND simply by adding a 75 shot in the 1/8....that is with street tires. now i can buy a pair of used drag radials for about 100 to 150 dollars... the nitrous wasnt mine so i will add that..500.00....now that is 600 or 650 dollars....i can buy some forged pistons complete for about 400 dollars...this means i can up my shot...lets say just 100 shot...with the tires...i run in the 12s VERY EASILY because you said yourself that the rsx spins alot and i know it does so the tires are helping ALOT...hey i think i just ran 12s with a little over 1000.00...i can only imagine what i could do with 4600.00.....:finger:

hmm, wasnt i talking about his $4600 turbo kit? i didnt say $4600 period. hell im running 8's in the 1/8th mile on less than $600. i can buy the forged pistons for $400 just like youre talking about, and up my shot to 100 like youre talking about (im only running a 55 shot now), and still not have to waste any money on slicks. which means that since im running my times on street tires, we might be about equal on the track, but on the way home im gonna burn you at every light. and my car was $6000 less than an rsx-s to begin with. so you see, when i said mid 13's for $4600, i was talking about the turbo kit that guy mentioned.

not to mention i really doubt just 100 shot and slicks is gonna put you in the 12's.

so :finger: yourself.

Hey, there needs to be no :finger: ing. :D They are both cool cars, and great bangs for the buck. The WRX is fast and has potential, but so does the RSXs K20 engine. And they are in two different categories too, I am surprised no one has mentioned that yet.

WRX = Forced Induction

RSX Type S = NA

Originally posted by antidote11
Hey, there needs to be no :finger: ing. :D They are both cool cars, and great bangs for the buck. The WRX is fast and has potential, but so does the RSXs K20 engine. And they are in two different categories too, I am surprised no one has mentioned that yet.

WRX = Forced Induction

RSX Type S = NA

heh, i think thats the 1st time ive :finger: -ed someone. yes they are both nice cars. lets leave it at that.

you know you are right you were talking about spending 4600.00 on a turbo for the rsx-s...but then you said''for that 4600.00 you are gonna put in the rsx to get 300 hp, you can get 400 hp in the wrx...so therefore you were saying that you could spend the same amount on somthing else...so i was saying the same..no offense..also the :finger: was just for fun...only a joke... anyways i am taking out a 6000.00 loan in january and scince you live in arkansas(im hoping in the southeastern part) and i live in north mississippi...i thought mabey we could get together and give it a try in memphis...at the track...just a thought:badass:

i think u should wait a month for an evo VII, 276 horsies and 275 torque ... come on now you cant get better than that

drive it and you will look no further, wrx is where its at!:flipa:

I'm getting ready to buy a car and i have it down to either the rsx or the wrx. I thought i'd check this forum for good factors or opinions but it seems as though you guys don't know enough about these cars. let me see if i can help and at the same time help myself. The rsx is sportier, looks better, and has better quality to it, but in my opinion it has a lack of after market support and is not as hard core as previous GSR's. And i'm not waiting 2 years for a type R to reach the states. The type S does the 1/4 in 14.7 and 0-60 in 6.1.

The WRX is an all wheel drive small turbo'd car. It does the 1/4 in 14.2 all day long and 0-60 in 5.4-5.7. Its all wheels drive!! its good off the line and its faster in every aspect. As for making the WRX faster there is no argument. First too many ppl use nitrous and its gay. get your hands dirty and build a motor the right way. I've done a shit load of research on both cars and the wrx has a lot more after market support. There are many different kits out there for the rex. some stage kits get the wheel horsepower to 500. So lets look at this from a realistic point of view. 4k into wrx=500whp and 11.8 and under in the 1/4. theres no argument, look in sport compact magazine they mod a wrx up in every month pretty much.

as a conclusion and back to the rsx, its slower and as of today lacks aftermarket support. i can't find vtec cams for it, nor cam gears, or even decent headers. in order to mod an rsx up you have to mix parts and thats bootleg. i don't want DC headers and apexi catback exhaust, only rice boys mix and match. i can't even find pistons, or not even one short shifter. plus they say its quiet and you can't really hear vtec kick in. to be honest what the fuck is good about this car? when is the support coming? So i guess its plain and simple wrx is a lot easier to mod and make faster or you can sit in your nice rsx interior waiting and hoping honda comes out with parts for it as a wrx punks you out! by the way they don't even make a LSD for the rsx yet so its open differential off the line against the wrx. sorry to all the rsx owners but don't race for money. lol

p.s. I have a 2000 Z24 heavily moded for sale. e mail me at [email protected]

this will tell the truth

uh...only rice boys mix an match parts? so er...the guys on the NHRA are ricers? a lot of companies don't make a full intake header exhaust set-up. tanabe is a great brand, but they only make exhaust an suspension parts. i've yet to see an Apex-i intake, or an AEM exhaust. u can't say that jus because people mix a few different parts that they are rice. unless ur going all DC Sports for ur simple I/H/E set-up then ur gonna be hard pressed to find a good name company who makes all 3 parts.

i do agree w/ u about the WRX being a better car, but the WRX isn't supposed to go fast in a straight line. no matter wut ppl tell me, it is meant to be off the road, an on the dirt. the rsx is a N/A car, so u can't really compare the motors. i guess its once again a comparison of apples an oranges.

350Z :smoker2:

mugen RSx obviously you are looking in the wronge places... there are 2 or 3 company's that make a short shifter for the RSX, and spoon makes some good headers. As for the other stuff i havent really looked for it but im sure its out there.. u just not looking good enough

Originally posted by border_project
oh yah forgot
if i were to chose one. i would definetely go for the wrx. seat 4 people in comfort without tilting the seat (god i hate tilting the seat to put passengers in the rear, screws up my seating position)
if it was for style i would go for the rsx, i like engines that screams at 8000rpm. other than that, too small and i like the awd

I just make them get out on the passenger's side... Everyone knows my seat never moves!!!!

To the starter of the thread:
Funny thing was I wanted a Subaru 2.5 RS (the two door) but they stopped making the 2 door... I really wanted a sporty look. I was really thinking of getting the WRX, but once I saw the RSX, and took it for a test drive I knew that it was the car for me..

That's what you should do.. Take both of them for a drive and see what you feel comfortable in. What you look the best in.. Cuz looks are important when it comes to cars.....(but so is performance) I rather spend money on stuff for the rsx then the wrx... I see too many old people driving around in them, it's a total turn-off cuz they're not using the car for what is was made for.... Plus it's a four door... Four doors aren't sporty.... Unless you have kids get an RSX. But that's just my opinion.:smoker:

I have test driven both the RSX and the WRX like 5 times each.
They are both great cars for thier own reasons. The WRX has more power, is quicker, has factory turbo (easily upgraded) and the most important part - it's AWD. I didn't fall in love with the WRX or it's looks, trust me, but it's the AWD and factory turbo I'm after.

Now I am looking at the EVO. AWD, turbo, and just plain fast.
And I think they look better than the WRX. But who knows, maybe I'll say funk it and get the STI when it comes out. The WRX STI is supposed to be one serious ass kicker !! I have some time left on my lease, so we'll see what else comes out in a year or two. And a lot of these car companies are catching on and making plans for thier AWD cars. Before too long, all descent cars will be AWD. :D

u goin for speed....WRX
Going for looks......RSX

If you want both looks and speed....Get a rsx-s...add lambo doors...exhaust...body kit....
n if u want to beat a wrx-sti in a race
add...no2, turbo, short shifter, carbon fiber hood, etc....
then u'll have the ultimate car.........!!!!

I dont know who told you that you can't hear it when the v-tec engages in the RSX, because you definitely can. It's REALLY obvious. Well after you put on the intake that is. Second why would you call someone rice if they mix different companies parts? Like someone else pointed out there are a lot of companies that don't make EVERYTHING for your car. And a lot of times if you do mix and match you are going to end up with more power in the end. The market isn't as big for the RSX because it hasn't been out very long. I personally have never been in a wrx, but i know its a great car. I just dont think some people are giving the rsx as much credit as it deserves. I ride in my roomates all the time, and i think its an awesome car, and pulls pretty damn hard in the upper rpms. I dont think you are going to be dissapointed with either car.

I would go with the RSX Type S. Looks awesome. Faster than you think, especially from 6000rpm on up.

2004 Upgrade for WRX headlights makes it better looking than the previous two years models though. But that Acura interior still wins me over. Its just tight, especially at night time.

well...i say we compare top of the line of each...then its no match, the wrx sti is in a whole different class then even the rsx type r.

yeah the WRX's speed is overrated...

last weekend I was next to a 2002 WRX and at 5MPH we both gunned it and as i was getting out of first and gunning it into second i had to swerve around a Grand Prix and when i came around it I was a 1/2 Car Length in front of the WRX and he said he never let of the gas!!! This surprise you??... well it sure Surprised the hell out of me... it was like the scene in fast and the furious with the ferrari and the supra with the supra going around the car and kicking the ferrari's ass... who knows who i will beat next with mods soon to be added....

That AWD is what would sell me, even with the more weight..

Originally posted by jwad1584
yeah the WRX's speed is overrated...

last weekend I was next to a 2002 WRX and at 5MPH we both gunned it and as i was getting out of first and gunning it into second i had to swerve around a Grand Prix and when i came around it I was a 1/2 Car Length in front of the WRX and he said he never let of the gas!!! This surprise you??... well it sure Surprised the hell out of me... it was like the scene in fast and the furious with the ferrari and the supra with the supra going around the car and kicking the ferrari's ass... who knows who i will beat next with mods soon to be added....

Oh yea, at rolling speeds, you'd definately be close or you'd win depending on your mods

uh huh...awd helps on ur launch an obviously around the twisties, but as for accel. from a roll...its only going to lose power. from a 5 mph roll...the awd is only something that will slow the car down. from a stop=rsx getting SMOKED. an how many tracks u kno let u roll from 5mph for ur 1/4 ET? :hehehe:

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
uh huh...awd helps on ur launch an obviously around the twisties, but as for accel. from a roll...its only going to lose power. from a 5 mph roll...the awd is only something that will slow the car down. from a stop=rsx getting SMOKED. an how many tracks u kno let u roll from 5mph for ur 1/4 ET? :hehehe:

Thats true dude:)

i was just saying that i beat the wrx i was just surprised an didnt think that was really possible since it is about a second faster than my car
but thanks for the info. laters

Originally posted by jwad1584
i was just saying that i beat the wrx i was just surprised an didnt think that was really possible since it is about a second faster than my car
but thanks for the info. laters

YEA, THOSE FUCKERS ARE PRETTY QUICK OFF THE LINE.

I don't know if this has been said yet cuz I didn't feel like reading 8 freakin pages, but the WRX is gonna have 276 HP in 2004. 76 HP plus well over 100 more ft/lbs of torque is gonna kill/stomp/mutilate a RSX no matter off the line or rolling already.
I guess they are upping the HP to combat the new Lancer EVO which has 271 HP. But the Lancer will still handle better.

ya i'm from canada too and the wrx is like 5000$ more and i'm with the majoity of the people when i say the rsx is a way nicer ride!!!!! it feels better looks better and for the minimal amount of extra power the wrx may have, you can get that for like 200us$ no problem. cold air intake you can get off of ebay for like 30$ delivered, chip for like 20$, and headers for like 160$ that's another 30-50hp easy, and if you can't intall that shit yourself you have a problem, i think it's really a no brainer.

though the wrx is still a nice ride

Originally posted by celtic
cold air intake you can get off of ebay for like 30$ delivered, chip for like 20$, and headers for like 160$ that's another 30-50hp easy,


30-50 HP? Easy??? Your car must have 400 horsepower just from bolt-ons.
Umm, you'de be lucky if you got 15 HP from those mods. What about exhaust? I'd say get a cat-back before a header. What good is a header with the stock muffler backing things up??? So you might get 20 HP gain with the addition of a cat-back.
I think you might be a little shaky on your math skills too, 20+30+160=210. You said 200. And theres no way you're getting this stuff that cheap for a brand new RSX. Maybe for an integra, or something else thats been around for awhile.

well the WRX is ahead no doubt performance wise.......but imo the rsx looks better...but looks are just personal preference....

Originally posted by Neutrino
well the WRX is ahead no doubt performance wise.......but imo the rsx looks better...but looks are just personal preference....

Not really unless your talking STI WRX. 200 HP RSX -227 HP WRX but the AWD system takes away like 60 HP. So they are about equal in the 1/4.

dude, my math is fine if you are going to quibble over 10$ you are just being dumb, and as far as the hp goes if you go on ebay those prices check out let's do some math: cold air intake lets say10-15hp, chip 10-15hp, headers 5-10hp and those are all conservative and if you want a crazy money exhast you can get that for like 400$which can give you 15hp so for well under 1000$ you can totally get your type-s to at least match the wrx, and still have a more stylish car.

not to dis you pwman, i see your point but all those prices do check out look for yourself.

i should know because i've done it to mine and i've walked wrx's with it......

Originally posted by celtic

i should know because i've done it to mine and i've walked wrx's with it......

I'm sure you have, I think a stock RSX can keep up with a WRX with a rolling start. Add some mods and you can beat it no problem. But my problem is where did you get those numbers for the gains you are saying for the mods you're talking about? They are really high.

ok dude you need to read what i'm saying here. EBAY you look under ebay and the hp#s will be there along with the prices, and don't be coming back with, "well you said that it was 200$ when it was really 210$", shite, when it comes down to it for the 5000$'s more it costs for the wrx, this is can. dollars you can mod your type-s for like 600-1000$ canadian and still have money to spare, but hey you don't care i'm sure, because everyone has their loyalties and stuff and that's ok, but if you need a little more hp for an rsx it's cheap, but as soon as you start getting into superchargers and stuff..... well that's different.

and this rolling start crap, dude where do you live?

Thanks

Originally posted by celtic


and this rolling start crap, dude where do you live?

Thanks

I live in the USA, Pennsylvania to be more accurate. Why? What do you mean rolling start crap? Thanks???

Originally posted by celtic
ok dude you need to read what i'm saying here. EBAY you look under ebay and the hp#s will be there

ok...u can't always jus trust the "numbers" that they post on there. but from a hondata/intake/exhaust, u'll see more like 25-30hp TOPS.

not gonna argue prices...cuz u prolly can find those for that price...but the ecu is gonna be more if u go hondata (which is the only way to go)

pwman, i understand u question the numbers, but the k series motors are a whole different motor from all the b series ones. yea...i/h/e/chip on the b series would only get 12-15hp. but its been dyno proven that simple i/h/e on the k series will get u 20-25 more hp to the wheels.

not tryin to get in the middle, jus tryin to clear everything up.

Originally posted by PWMAN


30-50 HP? Easy??? Your car must have 400 horsepower just from bolt-ons.
Umm, you'de be lucky if you got 15 HP from those mods. What about exhaust? I'd say get a cat-back before a header. What good is a header with the stock muffler backing things up??? So you might get 20 HP gain with the addition of a cat-back.
I think you might be a little shaky on your math skills too, 20+30+160=210. You said 200. And theres no way you're getting this stuff that cheap for a brand new RSX. Maybe for an integra, or something else thats been around for awhile.

thanks for pointing that out to him...people are being misled by ridiculous advertised power gains