Generic "how much" question
RedFC3S
11-11-2004, 07:08 PM
Im considering getting a civic hatch, and throwing in a GSR motor as a daily, and have a few questions.
1) how much do the B18's sell for used, with under 100k miles, motor and tranny
2) how hard is it to wire and do you just use the B18 ECU?
3) what kind of gas mileage would i be getting?
thanks
1) how much do the B18's sell for used, with under 100k miles, motor and tranny
2) how hard is it to wire and do you just use the B18 ECU?
3) what kind of gas mileage would i be getting?
thanks
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 07:12 PM
not that hard to wire and yes you use the gsr ecu (P72), i got my b18c1 for 2,500 with under 100k, i get anywhere from 30-34 mpg
snowman2005
11-11-2004, 07:26 PM
not that hard to wire and yes you use the gsr ecu (P72), i got my b18c1 for 2,500 with under 100k, i get anywhere from 30-34 mpg
u must not hit vtec often?
u must not hit vtec often?
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 07:29 PM
lol I dont really drive it too hard to be quite honest. i do get on it once in a while though and sometimes do some autox'ing with it
ok, ok... with some heavy footed city driving i get about 27 or so... lol
ok, ok... with some heavy footed city driving i get about 27 or so... lol
snowman2005
11-11-2004, 07:35 PM
about 27 or so... lol
sounds more realistic lol
sounds more realistic lol
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 07:37 PM
i kid you not though... i took a trip over the summer in the car fully loaded with stuff and 2 people in it doing about 85-90 the whole way with the air on and got over 32 mpg. if its just me cruising i can get 34 without much trouble
snowman2005
11-11-2004, 07:43 PM
thats nuts. prob just my b7 that prob. needs a tune up. props on ur car
RedFC3S
11-11-2004, 07:58 PM
thanks for the info, the civic hatch is sounding like it should be a fun car
nice car miataracer, nice wheels, spoon or rota?
nice car miataracer, nice wheels, spoon or rota?
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 08:08 PM
rota... i am not willing to pay way more for wheels that give no better performance. just not my thing i guess
i am sure a b18c hatch would be as fun if not more than mine since they weigh a bit less. i am happy with my car and it is pretty heavy. still has p/s, a/c and full interior. i forgot my exact scale numbers but it came in around 2400-2500 pounds
i am sure a b18c hatch would be as fun if not more than mine since they weigh a bit less. i am happy with my car and it is pretty heavy. still has p/s, a/c and full interior. i forgot my exact scale numbers but it came in around 2400-2500 pounds
CivicSpoon
11-11-2004, 08:44 PM
Here's a really good ecu pinout of what you need to add for a GSR swap: http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/wiring/wiring.92-95.jpg
Rotas are the bomb. They're one of the least expensive quality rims you can get. And the fact that they make knock-offs of popular styles from expensive companies (ie Spoon, Mugen), and sell them for cheaper.
Rotas are the bomb. They're one of the least expensive quality rims you can get. And the fact that they make knock-offs of popular styles from expensive companies (ie Spoon, Mugen), and sell them for cheaper.
95dxcivic
11-11-2004, 10:54 PM
I always thought rota's were like the hard jdm stuff.
Plastic_Fork
11-11-2004, 10:59 PM
Nah. Rota's are more of a domestic kinda thing. My slipstreams cost about $100 a wheel versus $400 a wheel for the real Spoon versions.
Only difference is the Rota's are cast and the real Spoons are forged. The Rota clone weighs about 10 pounds versus the 8 pounds the Spoon weighs for the same wheel. I have 15x6.5" wheel size.
Miataracer:
What color are your Rota's? Looks like steel gray. I was very tempted to get that color, but opted for the gunmetal for mine.
Only difference is the Rota's are cast and the real Spoons are forged. The Rota clone weighs about 10 pounds versus the 8 pounds the Spoon weighs for the same wheel. I have 15x6.5" wheel size.
Miataracer:
What color are your Rota's? Looks like steel gray. I was very tempted to get that color, but opted for the gunmetal for mine.
95dxcivic
11-11-2004, 11:03 PM
Nah. Rota's are more of a domestic kinda thing. My slipstreams cost about $100 a wheel versus $400 a wheel for the real Spoon versions.
Only difference is the Rota's are cast and the real Spoons are forged. The Rota clone weighs about 10 pounds versus the 8 pounds the Spoon weighs for the same wheel.
Sh*t, I wouldnt pay 300 more dollars for each rim for 24 lbs. less of static weight.
Only difference is the Rota's are cast and the real Spoons are forged. The Rota clone weighs about 10 pounds versus the 8 pounds the Spoon weighs for the same wheel.
Sh*t, I wouldnt pay 300 more dollars for each rim for 24 lbs. less of static weight.
Plastic_Fork
11-11-2004, 11:09 PM
http://www.spoon.jp/eng/products/lineup/lineup_1.html
Click on the Wheel & Nut catagory and you'll see the wheels.
It's 39,000 Yen for each wheel, which works out to be $368.19 before shipping.
Click on the Wheel & Nut catagory and you'll see the wheels.
It's 39,000 Yen for each wheel, which works out to be $368.19 before shipping.
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 11:19 PM
my wheels are the dark bronze. i think they actually accent the car pretty well
Plastic_Fork
11-11-2004, 11:27 PM
Ahh, gotcha. Couldn't tell with the angle and lighting. I like 'em though. :thumbsup:
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 11:31 PM
Plastic_Fork
11-11-2004, 11:59 PM
Very nice indeed. Goes well with your car. Your car is very clean and I'm overall impressed. :)
We did the same thing -- keep the outside modest and all the extra color went into the engine bay. :p
We did the same thing -- keep the outside modest and all the extra color went into the engine bay. :p
Miataracer
11-12-2004, 12:02 AM
thanks... it used to be pretty ricey with 17 inch white motegi wheels a basic d16z and exhaust that would wake the dead... lol i could go on. i've been working on it for about 2 years now a little here and a little there
Plastic_Fork
11-12-2004, 12:11 AM
I like the direction it's going. It'll be interesting to see how it progresses over time. I still have a way to go with mine. Every time I think I've got money for something, more bills pile up. :(
snowman2005
11-12-2004, 06:40 PM
like teh car. think it looks clean and nice. as soon as i get a job i think im gona ditcht the 17s and get some decent 15s. i think thats whats killing my mileage
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