Its always about traction
Z28 Drifter
11-11-2004, 06:39 PM
My 1992 camaro has 490HP at the wheels and everything else is stock but my engine I have a 335 stroker motor and the car only runs 13.15 1/4 mile what should I do to help traction IM on a tight budget.
Hypsi87
11-11-2004, 08:27 PM
Dude, with 106 MPH, you do not have 490 WHP!! I know that this is a calculation but, they are always with in 10-15HP.
http://www.supermotors.org/resources/calculators/index.php#estimated_horsepower
Plug it in yourself,Even if your camaro weighes 2800 LBS, with a trap speed of 106 your car had approximently 260 HP. The link is up above will show you. In order for your car to make that kind of HP, your Camaro would have to weigh almost 5,000 Lbs.
You can't blame this on traction, Tractioin hardly affects your MPH, it will affect your ET. In fact, when you hook up, your MPH will drop usually
http://www.supermotors.org/resources/calculators/index.php#estimated_horsepower
Plug it in yourself,Even if your camaro weighes 2800 LBS, with a trap speed of 106 your car had approximently 260 HP. The link is up above will show you. In order for your car to make that kind of HP, your Camaro would have to weigh almost 5,000 Lbs.
You can't blame this on traction, Tractioin hardly affects your MPH, it will affect your ET. In fact, when you hook up, your MPH will drop usually
Genopsyde
11-11-2004, 09:05 PM
a 92 Z28 with TBI?? That doesn't sound right to me.
Pewter'01SS
11-12-2004, 08:03 AM
My truck has TBI. No clue about the Camaro's though :dunno:
89IROC&RS
11-12-2004, 12:04 PM
Z28's were TPI for that year. and all the way back to 87 i believe. not exactly sure right now. so its probly either a RS badged as a Z, or a Z that someone stole the engine out of and put a TBI one in its place.
Dober89
11-12-2004, 01:18 PM
You could get irocs with TBI up until 1990 I think
SMOKEY818
11-12-2004, 04:01 PM
no as far as i know only the first irocs were carb and not tbi and then the irocs got converted to tpi
Dober89
11-12-2004, 05:10 PM
No in 1988 TBI replaced carburated engines and was standard in Irocs until 1990 when TPI became standard.
kmdracer
11-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Okay, I have to go with Hypsi87 on this one. No matter what car he has, IF he's putting down 490hp to the tires, and he's only running 106, I gotta call BS. I checked Hypsi87's link, and it gave me 307.61 hp. Probably correct if that is motor hp. I dyno at 28xhp/29xtq at the tires on a bone stock 99Z28. 1/8 mi traps are in the 81-82 range, and 1/4 traps are 102-103 range. Here's my cardomain link with proof pics at the bottom of first page. I know these aren't spectacular, but this is on a bone stock 104,000+ mile car. The times will start falling soon..
http://www.cardomain.com/id/kmdracer
KevinD
http://www.cardomain.com/id/kmdracer
KevinD
89IROC&RS
11-13-2004, 11:47 AM
dude, TPI IROCs were first made in 87. every IROC i have ever seen and read about has been TPI, i dont think the TBI was offered on an IROC, unless maybe it was special ordered.
Dober89
11-13-2004, 01:10 PM
TPI irocs were first made in 1985 dude when they brought it to the fbodies. Just because TBI was standard doesnt mean people couldnt upgrade their cars to TPI. It wasnt until 1990 that the LB9 engine was a base engine for Irocs.
Genopsyde
11-13-2004, 01:15 PM
*cough..owned..cough*
89IROC&RS
11-13-2004, 09:16 PM
yes.... yes i was, i was completely incorrect in both aspects of my previous statement. i looked it up and i was wrong. i shall go flog myself with a branch now....... although TBI wasnt offered untill '88
Dober89
11-13-2004, 10:21 PM
Thats right, as I said before TBI replaced carbs in 1988 and before that, the LG4 was the standard engine.
89IROC&RS
11-14-2004, 08:34 AM
damn, missed that post too.. well shit, im just gonna go away now
BrakeTorque
11-15-2004, 01:25 PM
I dunno enless you got a mean 3 gear then id say that most 105-115mph runs are usually in the 11's. And for a 490hp car then you must have a problem in your fuel injectors. lol or runnin on 4cyl's
demon9766
11-30-2004, 10:59 PM
My 1992 camaro has 490HP at the wheels and everything else is stock but my engine I have a 335 stroker motor and the car only runs 13.15 1/4 mile what should I do to help traction IM on a tight budget.
:confused: i don't know about that, mayb u need to redo ur math. bcuz the stock transmission couldn't handle 490hp. i've got a 355 with airflow research heads with 202 intake/160 exhaust valves, 501/501 lift cam 750 speed demon carb and a turbo 400 trans with a shift kit, cheater valve body, and lighten car body by 350 lb. and alot of other goodies and only make 492 hp without nos and 1/4 mile time of 11.20s. and that was on a budget build.
:confused: i don't know about that, mayb u need to redo ur math. bcuz the stock transmission couldn't handle 490hp. i've got a 355 with airflow research heads with 202 intake/160 exhaust valves, 501/501 lift cam 750 speed demon carb and a turbo 400 trans with a shift kit, cheater valve body, and lighten car body by 350 lb. and alot of other goodies and only make 492 hp without nos and 1/4 mile time of 11.20s. and that was on a budget build.
drvngstorm05
12-01-2004, 12:36 AM
i'm not sure if you're right in what ur saying... if u have a 700r4 tranny you could handle that power, but definately not ur stock 10 bolt rear end...
89IROC&RS
12-02-2004, 08:49 PM
my 700R4 will handle 600hp..... its not stock though :) but a stock 700 will take 490 just not for a long time. but yeah that 10 bolt must be screaming for mercy if its stock.
DaMoNe6969
12-02-2004, 09:09 PM
490hp will turn stock 700R4 internals into mush!
It wont hold it long..
It wont hold it long..
89IROC&RS
12-03-2004, 05:25 PM
it wont hurt the internals, what will fail are the clutch packs and possibly the band. A simple rebuild with high performance parts from a transmission company will solve the problem. all the gears and important parts will be just fine.
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