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New G35 vs. '06 BMW 3 Anyone?


MVice
11-11-2004, 12:46 PM
I have to hand it to Infiniti for stirring the BMW loyalty pot. Although most Bimmer buyers are going to stick with it, G35 definitly stole a few patrons when they came out with the 260hp 3-fighter. It looks like the next Bimmer 3 will have 255hp to put BMW back on top (not that they were ever below), but before BMW can even answer the call, Infiniti is coming out with a 300hp (298 actually) '05 model w/ 6sp manual!

So the contenders then...

G35 - 3.5 V6 w/298hp vs. BMW 3 - 3.0L V6 w/255hp

Which is the king of the class?

G35XAndTrailBlazer
02-10-2005, 06:06 PM
Infiniti is always gonna be one step ahead in everything

VQuick
02-11-2005, 03:52 PM
There will be a new "G35"(number and engine may be different) available around the same time as the new 3-series. It is speculated to have as much as 4.1L and 325hp. It'll be out in '06, at least in Japan. The US will probably get it a little later.

porscheguy9999
02-12-2005, 01:05 PM
G35 - 3.5 V6 w/298hp vs. BMW 3 - 3.0L V6 w/255hp

Which is the king of the class?

G35. Its built alot better than any BMW (they're built like crap). And I know that the current 3 Series has an I6 (inline 6) engine, but I'm not sure of this, but I think the next generation 3 will have a I6 (not a V6) , but with more power. Whereas the M3 goes from a powerful I6 (naturally aspirated, of course) to a more powerful V8.

Anyways, the G35 is much better.

snowshoe427
02-13-2005, 09:37 AM
It depends on what criteria are most important to a prospective buyer, but BMW has been doing the sport coupe / sedan for a long time just as Porsche has done sports cars for a long time so, they both do an excellent job. I've got 62,000 miles on my 99 328i and have enjoyed every mile. The chassis, straight 6, sport seats, and steering are as good as it gets. The straight 6 is a sweet engine. The 5 speed gearbox and clutch takeup, however, do not feel as good as in my Honda Accord.

I drove an 04 Infiniti 6speed demo recently and was impressed. The chassis, steering, brakes seem fine. I prefer the G36 styling to the 06 BMW. The gearbox and clutch takeup are not as good as on my Honda Accord. The seats aren't as good as the BMW sport seats. I'd like to drive an 05 6speed, but the dealer didn't order any, so.... It seems they order mostly automatics loaded with the expensive option package-BMW does the same thing. Infiniti at least lets you order a car without the sunroof- important for tall guys as it adds additional headroom. Too bad they don't offer telescoping steering as a stand alone option. BMW used to offer the sunroof as a stand alone option thing on the 3 Series, but starting in 04 the sunroof was mandatory option. Don't know if it will be mandatory on the 06's.

It's likely the 06 BMW's will leapfrog the G35, but I'd rather that both cut down on the luxury stuff and focus on the driver stuff and get rid of some of the weight. Go drive a 2,500 lb. Mini Cooper, Caterham 7, or Cobra to see how the fun factor increases as the weight decreases.

MVice
02-16-2005, 01:47 AM
I agree with all those who prefer the G over the 3. I love the 3's. Their interiors have so much fit and finish and seem to tight and well-made. But I have heard that the engines are not as maintenance free as ANY Japanese manufacturer, including Nissan-Infiniti. My father has a G and I recently took it for a joy ride at 2:30am on the highway just leaving the city. The thing accelerated hard to about 210km/h and then eased consistently (that is very consistently) to about 228km/h when I got freaked out and slowed down. I've heard they'll do about 250km/h or 150 mph Very impressive handling as well. I was considering a BMW for my next car, but can't argue with the value/luxury/performance of the G.

Cheers.

porscheguy9999
02-20-2005, 09:35 PM
I'm replying about two people's posts.

MVice--
"I've heard they'll do about 250km/h or 150 mph"

150mph? I dont think so. It's a $30,000 sedan, not a $70,000 coupe. The top speed has got to be no more than 130mph (I dont know that for sure).

snowshoe427--
"It's likely the 06 BMW's will leapfrog the G35, but I'd rather that both cut down on the luxury stuff and focus on the driver stuff and get rid of some of the weight. Go drive a 2,500 lb. Mini Cooper, Caterham 7, or Cobra to see how the fun factor increases as the weight decreases."

If only there was a performance version of the G35... With 6 speed manual, weight reduction from alluminum components, light seats, light windows, no sunroof. With 17-18 inch racing wheels, Brembo's all around, sticky tires, bodykit w/spoiler, engine mods (intake, turbo/super charger, bored out V6, performance exhaust) with 320+ BHP because the 05 stock will have 298. Which would be available on both sedan and coupe variations. Making the seadn similar to the Nissan Altima SE-R (I think theres a Sentra with Enkei wheels/exhaust/bodykit, but I cant remember the name of it).

MVice
02-24-2005, 02:33 AM
I'm replying about two people's posts.

MVice--
"I've heard they'll do about 250km/h or 150 mph"

150mph? I dont think so. It's a $30,000 sedan, not a $70,000 coupe. The top speed has got to be no more than 130mph (I dont know that for sure).

snowshoe427--
"It's likely the 06 BMW's will leapfrog the G35, but I'd rather that both cut down on the luxury stuff and focus on the driver stuff and get rid of some of the weight. Go drive a 2,500 lb. Mini Cooper, Caterham 7, or Cobra to see how the fun factor increases as the weight decreases."

If only there was a performance version of the G35... With 6 speed manual, weight reduction from alluminum components, light seats, light windows, no sunroof. With 17-18 inch racing wheels, Brembo's all around, sticky tires, bodykit w/spoiler, engine mods (intake, turbo/super charger, bored out V6, performance exhaust) with 320+ BHP because the 05 stock will have 298. Which would be available on both sedan and coupe variations. Making the seadn similar to the Nissan Altima SE-R (I think theres a Sentra with Enkei wheels/exhaust/bodykit, but I cant remember the name of it).

Just did a little reading. The G35 is electronically limited to 142 mph. Incidently the speed I claimed to reach in my previous post was 228kph (141.6mph). That was in an '03 w/ 260hp. The new 6MT sedans have 298hp and I hope have been given freedom to hit 155 like most german performance sedans.

Secondly, the '05 model has 18 inch wheels with decent rubber and the coupe version has 19 inch wheels with great rubber. Also, for those of you who don't know, the G35 wears a Nissan badge in Japan and is actually the next generation Skyline. People keep thinking they will import the Skyline GTR-34 to the US as a left drive car but they WON'T. They don't even build it anymore. But Nissan is planning to build a GTR version of the new Skyline (our G35) with possibly more than 400hp. That's the Skyline that they are likely to import, and as a left drive car. I've heard late 06/07. Anyone else know anything about this?

http://exmouth.hp.infoseek.co.jp/cm/cm19.jpg

MVice
02-24-2005, 02:39 AM
Just one more thing...I don't retract anything that I said in my previous post. But does anyone know if this is actually the R-35 or just a concept?

http://www.sk8_neto.blogger.com.br/NISSAN%20GTR%20Skyline%20R35%20(2).jpg

Bdetore
02-24-2005, 03:51 PM
The dealers are looking to about '07 for the skyline, and debating whether or not it'll be the v6 or the infiniti v8. Of course,... when was the last time a dealer actually understood let alone knew anything about mechanical information?

TooMAX
03-04-2005, 12:34 PM
150mph? I dont think so. It's a $30,000 sedan, not a $70,000 coupe. The top speed has got to be no more than 130mph (I dont know that for sure).

Hey, my 2.0 liter G20 could do 130 mph on the long flats of Nevada.... the G35 has twice the power and a bit better aerodynamics.

G35XAndTrailBlazer
03-18-2005, 11:15 PM
ok. Everyone.

I have a 2004 infiniti G35x.

First of all. The top speed ranges from 151 to 155mph. I know because my dad has gone that fast.

Secondly..... whats secondly? Anyways. I just wanna say that.

gti1689
03-28-2005, 03:53 PM
the g35 is my choice. bmw has gone donwhill since bangle joined, and even if they were "better", in terms of handling dynamics, i would still go for a g35. a new model w/325hp sounds delicious. btw, i have been up to 140 in my car, but it can go a good bit faster. gearing tops out at 172 (5-speed auto sedan), and the limiter is at around 156.

MVice
04-04-2005, 01:34 AM
I have to agree with you on the BMW styling. I think that the 7 was controversial (the rear of the car is elegant and attractive IMO, but the front is ugly). Then the 5 came out and looked completely objectional. The M5's body kit will make some marginal improvements. The new 3, although safely styled, still reminds me of some 80's car I can't put my finger on, especially from the back. Infiniti on the other hand is on a hot streak IMO. The G was and is still a huge hit, and the new M car looks like a great combination of mean/sporty styling on the exterior, with elegant luxurious styling inside. All in addition to a great V8 engine.

Does anyone know the facts about the GT-R35? Is it the Japanese Skyline that looks identical to the American Infiniti G35?

G35cTurbo
05-10-2005, 11:34 PM
I believe the g35 (http://www.g35turbo.com/) is a much better car. The bmw has a more solid feel though.

MPe488
08-06-2005, 05:41 PM
whoa... I voted thinking you said the M3, after I saw the results I knew something was up cause a newer Beemer M3 can kill a '04 G35, annd has 35 more HP than the '05

31rx7
09-02-2005, 09:01 PM
This is somewhat of an apples and oranges comparison as these cars attract two different buying groups.

Personally, I prefer to drive the M3, although it is so ugly I have to close my eyes until I open the door and sit inside. The only uglier cars are the 5 series and the 7 series BMW.

Bevl Hvn
01-28-2006, 10:37 PM
BMW more solid feel - you must meen a rougher ride.

I drove both, back to back, it was one or the other.

But then the BMW salesman pointed out the sales premium or WHATEVER they called it....... meaning, here is the price of your car. But because we are so snobby etc etc blah blah blah, you get to pay that PLUS 2 grand.

huh?

The 06 BMX 3 was already more expensive than the G.........

We got the G

G-man422
01-29-2006, 03:56 PM
G35 all the way!

G35XAndTrailBlazer
01-30-2006, 03:08 PM
MPe the G35 has a V6 the M3 has a V8

31rx7 the 5 series is a hot car

Bevl Hvn BMW is a snobs car plus everyone has one

G-Man it is hawt

eti engineer
05-09-2006, 01:30 AM
I put my G35 up against my son-in-law's 330 and it kicked his ass on all accounts His spends more time in the shop than being driven, the trim and body fit sucks, it rides harshly comparatively, and in handling and flat out acceleration, the Beemer couldn't keep up.

I have had Beemers in the past, but will not go back to them...

d.scribner21
09-24-2007, 10:07 AM
as much as i like the new g35, ima havta go with the bmw 3. i like that car ALOT. just my personal preference. id take the old g35 over the old bmw 3s anyday. i just really like what theyve done with the new 3

John81
05-08-2009, 04:28 AM
G35 of course!

pavelbarchuk
06-10-2009, 10:37 PM
Now days infiniti seems to have more power than the bmws and they do a little better on the track. Bmws also have a over heating issue when you start driving it hard. But if you dont race and dont care about performance, id go for the bmw.

luluxiu
07-29-2011, 09:33 PM
I prefer the shape of 06 G36 BMW. Gearbox and clutch takeup is not the same as in my Honda Accord. Seat is not as BMW sports seats. I want to drive 05 6speed, but the dealer did not order any....

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