McLarens on tv

In the next week, there will be 2 programs in which a mclaren is featured.

tonight, wednesday the 10th, at 8pm on the science channel, they are having a program about car technology. The mclaren is black with an LM package

next tuesday, at 10pm on TLC, they are having a show Million Dollar Cars. Dan Kennedys mclaren is in that one

I have the Million Dollar Cars episode recorded. Kennedy himself is giving his opinion on the car through most of the segment.

when was it on last? i dont remember seeing it/ads for it

(this is hosted by the hosts of overhaulin. it has Maybach, RR, Ford GT, Caddy 16) just to varify

Actually, now that you mention it, I think the one I'm thinking about was on the History Channel. It was part of a week long special called "Modern Marvels: Boy's Toys." Kennedy was also on that special too. I don't really remember who hosted it.

yeah, this one is different

Watched the show, but the McLaren was a no show. Will check the schedule, but it was not on in prime time. Oh well, it was an interesting show. Maybe next time.

My TIVO guide for the Science Channel lists two episodes of "Ultimate Cars" starting at 8PM tonight. The first one is described as "Beauty" Sports Auto (2004) Jaguar E-Type; Aston Martin DB5. Series. The second one is "Luxury Cars" Sports Auto (2004) Rolls Royce Phantom; Bentley R-Type Continental. Series.

A quick check of the Science Channel website make it appear that we may have missed the episodes that would have included the McLaren, as I see two episodes from Nov 3rd are listed as:

"Supercars" Discover an exclusive class of automobiles from manufacturers around the world that are capable of fast speeds, are produced in small numbers, and cost large sums of money. Get behind the wheel of the Ferrari F40 and the Lamborghini Miura.

"Race Cars" Soaring around the track at speeds in excess of 100mph, race cars are stunning feats of engineering. Experience the feeling of driving a Porsche 917 and a Ford GT40, two of the world's legendary race cars.

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Even though the McLaren isn't specifically mentioned in any of those show descriptions, it certainly seems that it would be more fitting to have the car featured in the "Supercars" episode, and possibly an honorable mention in the "Race Cars" one. ;)

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EDIT: A funny thing just happened - I switched the TV over to TLC so I could set the TIVO to record the Million Dollar Autos show and there was a preview for it on at the exact moment I changed to the channel. This caused me to panic momentarily as I thought it was on right then and I was missing it. Then I realized it was just a commercial. :lol2: :screwy:

man, my hopes were so high too. it was the highlight of my day. well maybe itll show up online at somepoint, or they will rerun it.

I'm going to set the TIVO to automatically record that show on the Science Channel. I think I'll catch it eventually assuming they re-air it.

At least we know to look out for it now. :thumbsup:

EDIT AGAIN: Actually - there is a Flash video promo of the show featuring the McLaren F1 on their website. If this is the commercial you saw, then my guess is that this is probably just their standard commercial for the show, and doesn't reflect what will be shown in each episode. That's probably why you thought the McLaren episode would be on tonight.

http://media.science.discovery.com/promos/promos.html

Also, there are one or two frames of the promo video where you can kind of see the license place. It reads "I3 MAC" making this Tony Smith's F1 road car, chassis #020.

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yup, thats the commercial that i saw. the way that they talk about it, it sounds like a one-time special. that is what threw me off

here is the info on tlc.com about their show "Million Dollar Motors

The world of the million-dollar car is marked by style, passion and lots of horsepower. An elite club of the most exclusive and expensive automobiles ever made feature the speedy Mclaren 1, the luxurious Mercedes Maybach 62 and the exclusive Ferrari Enzo."

heheh, mclaren 1.

I'm already worried... :eek: There's enough misinformation out there on the F1 already. ;)

When TLC's "Rides" did the West Coast Customs episode on the Ferrari Enzo, the host commentary was being done by Jason Priestley, the former "Beverly Hills 90210" star. He's a car guy, and even a semi-pro race car driver, so I expected a good result, however at the very start of the episode he referred to the car as the "Ferrari F50 Enzo". :banghead: :screwy:

Maybe Jason didn't write that script, but as a car guy he should have known better and whoever did write it should be flogged for not doing their research. You would think at least one of the "car people" associated with the program would have known better.

Then on last week's Top Gear Supercar comparison, Clarkson kept referring to the Enzo as the "F60". :banghead: :confused: :banghead: He should most definitely have known better. There is no such thing as the F60. Ferrari has never referred to the Enzo as an F60. It was really a very poor showing for Top Gear to get it so very wrong - repeatedly. I mean who does the technical consulting on that show if even Clarkson isn't wise enough to get the details right? :screwy:

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I'll go on the record now stating that any production company who wishes to do a show featuring a McLaren F1 can hire me for free to make sure they get the details right. :bigthumb:

Hopefully Mr Kennedy was able to ensure they got the details right on the F1 in this show. Afterall, he's not someone who bought the car simply because it was expensive and would look nice in his garage. :cool:

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I'm already worried... :eek: There's enough misinformation out there on the F1 already. ;)

When TLC's "Rides" did the West Coast Customs episode on the Ferrari Enzo, the host commentary was being done by Jason Priestley, the former "Beverly Hills 90210" star. He's a car guy, and even a semi-pro race car driver, so I expected a good result, however at the very start of the episode he referred to the car as the "Ferrari F50 Enzo".



West Coast Customs didn't impress me either in that episode. I stopped paying attention when one of the techs said this Enzo would be the first roadcar to ever have custom center lock wheels. We've seen Kennedy's car with them on at SEMA...

West Coast Customs didn't impress me either in that episode. I stopped paying attention when one of the techs said this Enzo would be the first roadcar to ever have custom center lock wheels. We've seen Kennedy's car with them on at SEMA...

I doubt that most of the people at west coast customs even knew what an Enzo is before they worked on one.

The general US population always knows of the latest ferrari or lamborghini (well except maybe for the drag-racing rednecks who deny the existence of anything that's not ford or chevy ;)), and then they forget about it when the buzz dies down.

As evidence: I'm using a shot of a white porsche and a "fake-LM" GTR for my wallpaper here in the CADLAB (I'm posting from a campus computer lab.) Of 11 people who have walked by and asked about the F1, only one got close to the right answer, and he guessed it was an LM. I've heard Lamborghini come up a few times, but everybody else is clueless regarding a car design that's 10 over years old now

Just goes to show you, that Ferrari, and to a lesser extent porsche, and Lamborghini are the only supercars that exist in the minds of your average American, and only for as long as there's still buzz surrounding the car. Ask a random person to name a ferrari other than the Enzo, and they're going to have trouble doing it.

McLarens are a foreign concept to people, and when they hear it's (arguably) the fastest production car, they are almost shocked: "Yes folks, it's at least 15 mph faster than every (stock) road-going Ferrari ever made."

Dont forget that Million Dollar Motors is airing tonight on TLC at 10pm

Ahh yes - thanks for the reminder. :thumbsup:

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Nice show, I enjoyed very much so. I'm going to have to tape it when it re-airs in about an hour.

mclaren part was nice. too short for my taste though

Aww, I missed it. :crying:

Can some please upload the video. Maybe you Stratoraptor, since you're going to record it anyway.

I was really impressed with Dan Kennedy's comments on the F1. It's rare to get such candid comments from the owner of an F1. I will honestly never get tired of listening to that kind of stuff. I believe very strongly that some F1 owners simply don't appreciate the F1, or cars in general, nearly as much as it seems people like Dan, Mr. Selldorff, and of course Jay Leno do. To me, that's a shame. Dan is also one of just a handful of owners that shares the car with others and gets quite a bit of use out of the car. I applaud that tremendously - its a road car and not a museum piece afterall. :thumbsup:

The commentators got nothing wrong in the fact department on the F1 that I noticed, but they did not provide a lot of real substance either. I could have made a great technical assistant for that segment :grinyes: but the whole show seemed more interested in fluff/overview than the real details a true enthusiast would enjoy. It's a shame they couldn't have rented a track and done some real high speed action shots as opposed to trying to speed up the footage they shot on public roads. :grinno:

Overall, I guess I'm glad they hooked up with Dan as opposed to someone who owns the car for what I consider the wrong reasons. (Wyclef is a good example of that unfortunately) I'm also happy that they didn't screw anything up on the commentary, unlike the Enzo owner who pointed at the remote reserviors on the rear shocks and stated that they were "pumps to raise the car to get over a steep driveway." That guy needs some help... :screwy:

I took issue with some of the comments made during the segment on the Saleen S7, but it was obvious they were trying hard to market the car because it is not selling as well as they had hoped, so I was not surprised. It was nice of Steve Saleen to refer to the McLaren F1 as the "ultimate", but to then say they started with a clean sheet of paper for the design of the S7 was a bit ridiculous. Maybe it was a clean sheet of tracing paper with a photo of the F1 GT underneath... :lol2:

Of course the F1 segment could have been better - heck they could have spent the whole hour on the car... :D but beggars can't really be choosers in these situations so I'll take what I can get. For anyone who missed it, TLCs website says it will re-air on Sunday the 21st at 3PM Eastern time.

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Was it just me, or did the people on that show not have a clue what they were talking about. Guess I should've expected that from American car TV......

They....
Stretched to fit the Caddie Sixteen in for no good reason.
Called the Saleen the fastest production car.
Said the Saleen was the first car to have a flat bottom.
Said that you need to be invited to buy an Enzo

I wonder if they actually filmed it themselves or just handed cameras to people and said "film your best car and talk about it" and just spliced it together.

Okay...enough ranting.

On a brighter note....I giggled a little seeing the matching H2 following the McLaren in just about every shot.

I think D.Kennedy's matching H2 and McLaren is just a proof of his bad taste...?
The McLaren is such a special car, while the H2 can't exactly be said to be that much.
Having them styled similar just seems stupid when you have those great cars with their own "identity" from the beginning.
The worst thing I see is pimped up Hummers lowered with 20" spinners etc.
It's like putting monster truck wheels on a Ferrari, plain stupid!

"Said that you need to be invited to buy an Enzo"

While you are correct in that the statement doesn't hold true on the used market where anyone who can pay the price is able to buy one, you did have to be approved (invited) to be the original owner of an Enzo from the factory. The same story was true for the F50 - in fact with that car they actually locked customers in to a two-year lease to prevent the speculators from buying one and then selling it to turn a profit right away. I think that's a fair statement to make. They could have clarified it like I did, but they chose not to.

The other comments you made are spot on. :thumbsup:

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It was great to see our own CyberDan talk about his incredible vehicle, there were some nice shots of the F1. I thought it was cool to see him being interviewed standing in the middle of that H2 + F1 photoshoot, I believe a pic or two from that shoot was posted here.

I found it odd that most of the cars on the show were not valued at over 1 million dollars, and some of their facts were wrong on various cars, such as some numbers for the Ford GT. I'm glad though that the sections for each car ran about 7 minutes, much better than the 1 minute Wyclef snippets I'm used to seeing!

For anyone who missed seeing the Million Dollar Motors show from TLC - a FerrariChat.com member has posted links to encoded versions of the separate sections of this show.

Here's the one that most here will care about:

Right-click, Save Target As... (http://www.dandfent.com/ferrari/extreme_machines_mclarenf1.wmv)

Get it while it's hot. I can imagine that if his bandwidth starts getting hammered, he will pull the files down.

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I knew we kept you around here for a reason Peloton. :evillol:

Just kidding. :iceslolan

Thanks a lot man. I was so mad that I missed the original airing. Would it be posible for you to post links to the other segments. I don't really know my way around FerrariChat.com

I knew we kept you around here for a reason Peloton. :evillol:

Just kidding. :iceslolan

It's ok - I understand I'm often overly opinionated, borderline obnoxious sometimes and that the place would often be better off without me.

You don't need to feel bad for pointing it out. ;) :iceslolan

Thanks a lot man. I was so mad that I missed the original airing. Would it be posible for you to post links to the other segments. I don't really know my way around FerrariChat.com

You are welcome a lot man. :thumbsup:

He doesn't have every segment up. I'm not sure if he plans to do them all or not. Here are the ones currently available:

http://www.dandfent.com/ferrari/extreme_machines_enzo.wmv

http://www.dandfent.com/ferrari/extreme_machines_maybach.wmv

http://www.dandfent.com/ferrari/extreme_machines_salenS7.wmv

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It's ok - I understand I'm often overly opinionated, borderline obnoxious sometimes and that the place would often be better off without me.


:lol2: Yeah, sometimes but most of time, we need you. Thanks for Mclaren F1 video host supply with others.

...and some of their facts were wrong on various cars, such as some numbers for the Ford GT.

Their numbers for the Ford GT were correct. This show was filmed a while ago and at that time those were the numbers on the car. They should've stated the top speed was estimated. Ford had been parading the press cars around claiming 500 hp. It wasn't until closer to production that they told the truth that the car actually had 550 hp and then certified it at IIRC 212 mph. I think their official top speed number is lower, but the car is capable of the higher number.

Worse than their numbers was the previous owner of the Enzo pointing to the remote reservoirs on the rear suspension and saying that they were motors to raise the suspension. :screwy: Only the front suspension raises on that car.

Greg A

Becuase I don't have any cable, thanks to peloton and the man who encoded them.

I have downloaded each of the segments peloton has posted so I can host them if the other host goes poopy...I will also check for the rest of the segments (not sure which other cars there were)

hahahhaahhahaha rofl

After the old dude finishes his speech on the enzo, and it is driving, they flash 12 cylinder on the screen and say "The 12 cylinder engine generates" and then they flash 660 HP and say "650 Horsepower"

hahahha wtf, these guys must have been blind!

Hey, everyone. I just wanted to let you guys know that this weeks episode of Motorweek on SPEED had a segment of the BMW Historics weekend. There was a glimpse of a GTR, not much though.

You can catch the episode by checking your local listings for Motorweek on SPEED.

i did some looking on the discovery channel site for the Ultimate Cars show.

it appears the McLaren will be in the Superstars episode that first airs on Dec 1st.

description for that episode, "Which car is the most luxurious, most powerful, the best supercar, the best convertible, most loved? Find out which car is tops from each category." McLaren sounds like it would fit a couple of those :)

here is the complete ultimate cars schedule http://science.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=67951&gid=0&channel=SCI

i did some looking on the discovery channel site for the Ultimate Cars show.

it appears the McLaren will be in the Superstars episode that first airs on Dec 1st.

description for that episode, "Which car is the most luxurious, most powerful, the best supercar, the best convertible, most loved? Find out which car is tops from each category." McLaren sounds like it would fit a couple of those :)

here is the complete ultimate cars schedule http://science.discovery.com/schedule/series.jsp?series=67951&gid=0&channel=SCI

Cool. Make sure you give us a reminder the day of the programme. :thumbsup:

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I have my TIVO recording every episode of that show "Ultimate Cars" show now. I'll get it eventually.

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I have my TIVO recording every episode of that show "Ultimate Cars" show now. I'll get it eventually.

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ERTonight at 10 pm (Eastern timezone) they're showing the F40, Miura, Hummer H1 and Range Rover on "Ultimate Cars''.

I have my TIVO recording every episode of that show "Ultimate Cars" show now. I'll get it eventually.



Checked your email lately? :sly:

Yeah - and I started to respond, but then got side tracked and never finished. I'll be home in like an hour and will send you a reply. My bad!

Incidentally, there is a PM feature on this website where you can ask those sorts of 'Off Topic' questions. ;) :p

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Yeah - and I started to respond, but then got side tracked and never finished. I'll be home in like an hour and will send you a reply. My bad!

Incidentally, there is a PM feature on this website where you can ask those sorts of 'Off Topic' questions. ;) :p

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I figgured you didn't check that either :D

Tonight at 10 pm (Eastern timezone) they're showing the F40, Miura, Hummer H1 and Range Rover on "Ultimate Cars''.Okay just finished watching the show. There was a McLaren F1, F40, Carrera GT, Miura and a 300 SL.
As for the Hummer , Range Rover and etc. that was on the ''Ultimate Cars'' adventure.

Stupid tv guide..

Well you Canucks must get different episodes than us Yanks. It didn't air here at all tonight. I just checked the TIVO guide and it matches what the Discovery Science website says will be on tomorrow night.

At 8PM EST it lists "Ultimate Cars" - Road Rally: Audi Quattro, Mitsubishi EVO VIII. At 8:30PM EST it lists "Ultimate Cars" - Power Cars: Porsche 911 Turbo, Dodge Charger 440 R/T.

Normally there is one other car that appears in the show that isn't included in the listing, but it doesn't sound as if either of tomorrow night's episodes will include the McLaren F1.

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Well you Canucks must get different episodes than us Yanks. It didn't air here at all tonight. I just checked the TIVO guide and it matches what the Discovery Science website says will be on tomorrow night.

At 8PM EST it lists "Ultimate Cars" - Road Rally: Audi Quattro, Mitsubishi EVO VIII. At 8:30PM EST it lists "Ultimate Cars" - Power Cars: Porsche 911 Turbo, Dodge Charger 440 R/T.

Normally there is one other car that appears in the show that isn't included in the listing, but it doesn't sound as if either of tomorrow night's episodes will include the McLaren F1.

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ERThats right...
I have just checked the discovery channel website( of Canada) and indeed its not the same schedule as in the US.

http://www.exn.ca/ontv/series.asp?series=44001583&TZ=0

Hey, everyone. I just wanted to let you guys know that this weeks episode of Motorweek on SPEED had a segment of the BMW Historics weekend. There was a glimpse of a GTR, not much though.

You can catch the episode by checking your local listings for Motorweek on SPEED.

I caught this program today and saw the segment that included GTR #17R. Did you happen to notice that when Bobby Rahal was describing the McLaren GTR to the Motorweek host that he informed her that it was powered by a BMW V10 engine. :screwy: :banghead:

The shots of the car speeding from the pits and passing on track were nice, but I do wish they had sent a camera along with the host when she got her ride to record a lap of Limerock in an F1 GTR.

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I just found this link from the ''Ultimate Supercars'' show that passed on tv last night in Canada.

-Its the McLaren F1 part:
http://users.pandora.be/p997s/Ultimate%20Cars%20-%20McLaren%20F1.avi
What F1 is this? (chassis #)


PS: Note that when Ron Dennis is talking you see 2 or maybe even 3 F1's behind him. One is orange and the other seems to be black.
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Awesome find John T :bigthumb:
Thanks a bunch.

The car filmed in the Ultimate Cars episode is chassis #020. It was the same car used for 5th Gear's "The Greatest Cars" special.

Here's some stationary photos of the car provided by the member '13mac' who I haven't seen post in here for a while:

http://a9.cpimg.com/image/A3/FD/33981859-30e1-0200010C-.jpg

http://a3.cpimg.com/image/A7/FD/33981863-99f2-0200014D-.jpg

Downloading the video now - thanks for the link! :thumbsup:

EDIT: Wow - just finished watching it - what a great segment on the car. They could have touched on some more of the details, but at least they didn't screw anything up. The snippets with Ron Dennis and Gordon Murray were nice. The two F1s in the background behind Dennis would have been XP1LM and XP5.

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I just found this link from the ''Ultimate Supercars'' show that passed on tv last night in Canada.

-Its the McLaren F1 part:
http://users.pandora.be/p997s/Ultimate%20Cars%20-%20McLaren%20F1.avi
What F1 is this? (chassis #)


PS: Note that when Ron Dennis is talking you see 2 or maybe even 3 F1's behind him. One is orange and the other seems to be black.
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Thanks for the link.

That segment was very entertaining...I've never seen anyone get into an F1 before.

And it's good to know that IGM toned down the hair and dropped the funky tie. :wink:

I've never seen anyone get into an F1 before.

The best way to do it is literally get into the passenger seat (on the left of the drivers seat) and then kinda slide into the drivers seat. Fairly easy once you're used to it.

Yeah - it looked like they over dramatized it for the cameras. You put your rear end on the front edge of the left passenger seat, swing your legs over the chassis rail and then slide forward and drop into the seat.

I'm sure it's easier for large people to get in when the car is fitted with the removable steering wheel.

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Yeah - it looked like they over dramatized it for the cameras. You put your rear end on the front edge of the left passenger seat, swing your legs over the chassis rail and then slide forward and drop into the seat.

I'm sure it's easier for large people to get in when the car is fitted with the removable steering wheel.

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Yep

so who was that owner?

I assume you're asking about the Ultimate Cars episode, and the owner would be Tony Smith.

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yup. that is who i ment.

i think jean jennings said it best when she said "the only probably with that car is that i havent driven it"

The best way to do it is literally get into the passenger seat (on the left of the drivers seat) and then kinda slide into the drivers seat. Fairly easy once you're used to it. :grinyes: I banged my head on the A-pillar when I tried it :banghead:

:grinyes: I banged my head on the A-pillar when I tried it :banghead: haha. I never have :D

my problem is that in the gtr cars, i cannot reach over to pull the door shut. not a problem in the regular car though. i am 5'8" (160 cm fro the rest of the world).

and of course, carrying a passenger in the converted gtr cars is just begging for a wrongful injury lawsuit. the rollcage makes it virtually impossible for them to move without hitting their head or arms. ow ow ow

oh well, who wants passengers anyway. :)

reminder. ultimate cars is on tonight if you are still interested.

I was finallly able to catch the right episode of Ultimate Cars. I'm glad to see that they agreed with most of the people on this forum. We need to give ourselves a pat on the back, we had it right all along. Now what we need is a full 30 minutes or 60 of time dedicated to the F1 to thoroughly review the "WINNAH". It would be nice for someone to do a detailed analysis of the car and air that. Is anyone listening?