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SKYm
11-10-2004, 11:43 AM
Hi I just purchased an ebay muffler for my 01 Celica GT AT.
I have no idea how it sounds but it was pretty cheap at $60.
I was wondering if anyone else got their mufflers at ebay.
If so how are the qualities of these mufflers? Everyone says mufflers are just mufflers...It doesn't really make a diiference in which one i chose. I just want one for louder(deeper) sound for my celica.

The one I got is this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7932517716&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

It's supposed to be a copy of HKS Bomb. hm...

sivic02
11-10-2004, 11:54 AM
Honestly cheap mufflers sound cheap. If you want a deeper cleaner louder sound get a full catback exhaust all a muffler will do is make your car sound like a fart can

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 11:55 AM
u are a ricer, whyed you buy just a muffler, all its gunna do is make your car sound like a fart cannon, you wont get shit for HP...sell it and buy a catback exhaust system

SKYm
11-10-2004, 12:14 PM
Ok I just cancelled my purchase...
A negative feedback... damn!
Oh well better than sounding like a fart can! hehe

Ok! now I need some information on catback systems.
I'm gonna save up for a nice one but I don't know anything. I'm new to this... I saw the Magnaflow and the skunk2s. Skunk2 was about $400-500 on ebay.

And also i found a cheap catback system on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7933680547&category=33630

How is it? Should I just save for a skunk2 or a magnaflow catback?

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 12:19 PM
dosent look bad but it is alwas nice to get a dyno slip before you purchase them...But honestly id go for that, its cheap and if it wasnt at good it would only be a couple hp diffrence (cuz the cat)...but piping is good for u high comp 2.5

SKYm
11-10-2004, 12:24 PM
HP not much of a concern for me although it would be nice to have couple extra HP. I want a decent sound for my car just deeper and louder tone than the stock.

So it's ok for the price?
Whats a dyno slip? It says it's dyno tested and proven... whatever that means...

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 12:32 PM
dyanometer slip, tels how much hp ull gain from the product...ur kidding right you dont care about hp?

SKYm
11-10-2004, 12:36 PM
Well I do care but is the gain really noticeable in these mods?
And it's a GT Auto... even if I get these and it won't even go past the GTS.

It says on this one that it's up to 15 hp...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7933452131&category=33630

So is this one ok to get?

sivic02
11-10-2004, 12:42 PM
first of all if you are serious about your car then dont get anything off of ebay, if its name brand maybe, but you would be better off going to wal mart to get an exhaust rather than ordering some off brand part from ebay. If you get an exhaust you wont see a completely drastic change since you arent racing. I have a magnaflow on my 02 civic si and i love the sound i say go with the magnaflow but please dont slap a ebay exhaust on a car your giving import tuners a bad name

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 12:44 PM
if you just watn to sound go with the ebay one... and fyi dont tell someone not to do somethign "ricer" when you go and do it urself

sivic02
11-10-2004, 12:45 PM
were you talking to me celica?

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 12:50 PM
yeah... why would you just put a muffler on a car it yields no Hp and sounds like shit

SKYm
11-10-2004, 12:53 PM
but you would be better off going to wal mart to get an exhaust rather than ordering some off brand part from ebay. If you get an exhaust you wont see a completely drastic change since you arent racing.

Well I'm not just putting an exhaust on there... I thought the one I gave you the site to is the full catback exhaust system...
I cancelled my purchase for just the muffler/exhaust.
Well celica seems to know a lot about cars...
So for sound go with the ERZ?

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 12:54 PM
the catback will give you a more throuaghty sound...if ur lookin to make your car sound better get a shrt ram intake as well, itll make your motor more throaghty

sivic02
11-10-2004, 12:55 PM
first off i have a full catback system, secondly it increases hp throughout the entire rpm range, and third everyone who has seen my car says it sounds great....do i dont know why you would do that either

SKYm
11-10-2004, 12:56 PM
Whats the difference between short rm and a regular one...
Sorry I'm completely new to the is genre... hehe
I was thinking about getting an intake after I buy the catback system.

How are these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7933451791&category=38634&sspagename=WDVW

Or could you recommend me something better?
What's the benefit of using the short rm?

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 01:09 PM
i never said cat backs dont incree Hp i thought u just emant u only had a magnaflow muffler and nto a catback...

and FYI the best cat backs aer ones YOU customize for yoru car not buy bolt on ones

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 01:11 PM
haha fuck that, dont spend more than $90 if your not lookin for performance...you could just buy a cone filter and put it on ur stock intake tube if you want just the sound and no HP

sivic02
11-10-2004, 01:14 PM
i have seen dynos that prove that a bolt on catback will outperform a custom made one on my friends 94 eclipse by about 5hp that is because the companies change the bends to promote the best flow rather than have bubba try to make piping that wont fall off

SKYm
11-10-2004, 01:16 PM
haha fuck that, dont spend more than $90 if your not lookin for performance...you could just buy a cone filter and put it on ur stock intake tube if you want just the sound and no HP

Well I don't know why but I feel like I have to buy a good or a decent intake... It's just a feeling I have... maybe it's because the intake is much closer to the engine... i don't know... hehe
For an intake, I do want more HP with an intake

Injen or AEM?
I'm leaning towards AEM. From the other Forums i'm reading...

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 01:18 PM
and as i have seen custom ones that have made more than bolt ons...it lal dpends on how your car runs/ what kidna mods you have...a catback exhasut with 2.25 piping isnt good for a car like mine runnin 10 psi of boost

sivic02
11-10-2004, 01:24 PM
true if your running boost custom piping will usually be better but besides that i dont see custom piping working any better

SKYm
11-10-2004, 01:25 PM
I'm reading some information about the cold air intakes and it says that water could go into it... I have to get a bypass for that...
I live in Florida and it rains like hell here...
short ram don't have these problems i heard...
Is it true?

sivic02
11-10-2004, 01:29 PM
i have a cold air intake on mine AEM and for the most part unless you have water coming through your door you dont have to worry about your engine sucking up water. A little splash wont hurt it, the only way it will hurt it is if it is completely submerged in water also if you are that concerned about it AEM makes an attachment that will allow your intake to breathe if it is ever somehow submerged in water

SKYm
11-10-2004, 01:33 PM
i have a cold air intake on mine AEM and for the most part unless you have water coming through your door you dont have to worry about your engine sucking up water. A little splash wont hurt it, the only way it will hurt it is if it is completely submerged in water also if you are that concerned about it AEM makes an attachment that will allow your intake to breathe if it is ever somehow submerged in water

I heard that short ram and cai's don't make much difference in HP.
Is it true with AEM too?
And have you been in Florida in the summer?
It pours... It feels like someones taking a huge I mean huge ass bucket and just pouring it on to the car.
Yeah I'm thinking about getting that attachment now...
But first off.
short ram or cai?

sivic02
11-10-2004, 02:01 PM
i personally am a fan of cai just seems to make more sense to me, also if you want to further decrease your intake temps you can do a throttle heater bypass which is simple to do. I lived in Georgia but we dont get too much rain here so i never worried about the breather but just as a rule of thumb if you expect water to go up to your bumper then i might consider getting the breather

I noticed a decent gain with the intake the mid rpms felt a little smoother and it does sound nice too

SKYm
11-10-2004, 02:55 PM
Thanks for all the replies.
It makes more sense with the cai.
I think I'll get the AEM cai with the attachment...
One last question.
Why do people do catback setups the most?
And what does catback do? More likely how does catback work?

sivic02
11-10-2004, 03:11 PM
it reaplces all the restrictive piping from the catalaic(sp?) back. New resonator and piping as well as the axel back piping and muffler. So basically the only restrictive flow you would have would be your header and cat. reaplace those and you will have a happy car

SKYm
11-10-2004, 05:14 PM
So how much would it be to put all these in?
What's the labor on these in general...

sivic02
11-10-2004, 11:32 PM
beats me, i do all the work myself, its really easy to do. At the very least try to install the intake yourself its very simple and should include instructions and its free, but best of all you get to work on your car yourself. Exhausts are easy to install as well but you would need to either get some jack stands or borrow a lift.

As far as the header and cat go they are probably the most complicated because of where they are and because of 02 sensors but they arent too bad to replace

basically im tryin to say if you can save some money and think you can do it yourself then do that. plus when someone comments on your cars mods you get the satisfaction of knowing you did it

91 Celica St
11-11-2004, 03:31 AM
personally i live in shitty rainey weather too where it pours and floods... id go with the short ram.. the difference in Hp between CAI and it are infidecimal, and as for installlation...

pieces of cake, the intake is just a matter of unbolting some skrews to get the onld one out and using clamps (that are provided) that you tighten with a skrewdriver(or allen) to put on...

Cat-back is a little harder, scince it will be a direct bolt on youd just have to unbolt your old one and replace the rubber hangers on the old one to the new one (unless there already on there) and bolt it on and slip it into its retainers and ur good to go...

SKYm
11-11-2004, 10:44 AM
personally i live in shitty rainey weather too where it pours and floods... id go with the short ram.. the difference in Hp between CAI and it are infidecimal, and as for installlation...

pieces of cake, the intake is just a matter of unbolting some skrews to get the onld one out and using clamps (that are provided) that you tighten with a skrewdriver(or allen) to put on...

Cat-back is a little harder, scince it will be a direct bolt on youd just have to unbolt your old one and replace the rubber hangers on the old one to the new one (unless there already on there) and bolt it on and slip it into its retainers and ur good to go...

I looked up CAIs and short ram but the price difference wasn't that huge.
AEM CAI was $220 and Injen short ram was about $200 and K&N SR is about $200. Which one should I get?
Oh yeah and there's a used injen short ram for $75-90. Do you think it's ok to get a used one?

One of the other thing I was concerned on the catback was the O2 sensor. Where is it in my '01 GT AT?

91 Celica St
11-15-2004, 12:26 PM
go with the short ram, the difference is like >1HPand you shouldnt expect to pay anymore then $100

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