how to get into the 10's
o*HeR()
11-10-2004, 02:06 AM
i allready have a stage 2 turbo and race fmic , with all the little mods that go along, plus big injectors 3 inch exhaust no cat race 3 inch down pipe g1 intake mani, ported turbo mani dejon tool ic piping all around. greddy bov dsm link and im waiting for the new cable and disc in the mail, um fuel pump , wired wastegate /external act racing clutch , and a few more extras that i cant think of right now but should i start building the motor now? cause i havnt touched it yet, i have all bolt on mods and what should i get first
kjewer1
11-10-2004, 02:56 AM
You have a very long way to go to run 10s. What size is "big" for those injectors? WTF is a stage 2 turbo? Odds are your pump is too small, but no size is given. 60 foots are a huge part of low ETs, what is your suspension tire setup? That 2G mas of yours is gonna have to go. You can certainly get it there, but trust me, its not easy! Its mostly in the little things. I cant keep motors together, and it seems it may all come down to the deck height and piston to head clearance. Go figure. I'm going to post this info in a bit in the performance section. Its a long hard road :) But I think right now the motor may be the last of your concerns unless its a 7 bolt.
JoeWagon
11-10-2004, 01:22 PM
10's is a gutted 1g, or a lot of money/expertise. One aspect is having the power, which a 50 trim (right?) doesn't make. Then, you need traction. The turbo is where all of your power comes from. A 50 trim flows 40-50lbs/min, and a 10 second turbo is at least 60lbs/min for a gutted race car. Here in Colorado, we have 65lb/min turbos running mid 11's at insane mph's. That is, no traction... but the power is there.
If 95 GSXracer is almost hitting 10's with a 75lb/min turbo, it must be a lot harder than the fast DSM guys make it seem.
If 95 GSXracer is almost hitting 10's with a 75lb/min turbo, it must be a lot harder than the fast DSM guys make it seem.
EVOclipse
11-10-2004, 03:33 PM
"NOS i need NOS , 1...no 2 of these...and i need them by tonight!"
o*HeR()
11-10-2004, 08:59 PM
should i get a stroker kit?
scottsee
11-10-2004, 09:01 PM
wouldnt hurt. lots more airflow, faster spool up.
metalhedskater
11-10-2004, 09:04 PM
can someone explain what the purpose of a stroker kit is....i dont know
o*HeR()
11-10-2004, 09:16 PM
cams rods pistons all the goodies im not sure excacly how explain all i can say is way more power... and anyways guys help me out what should be my next step?
EVOclipse
11-10-2004, 09:41 PM
i believe its a kit that contains what hes mentioned, just the rods are shorter and the cams and the other parts are adapted for the increase in volume. effectively making your engine bigger(hence the increase in 2.0-2.4stroker) just a way to increase ure engine capacity without getting a whole new one. just using the space thats there.
scottsee
11-10-2004, 11:20 PM
stoker kit increases the displacement. from what i understand the 4g63 crankshaft has a stoke of 88mm, and the 4g64 a 100mm stroke. by using the 4g64 crank it will increes displacement to 2.3L. in this case .02 bore has been done.
a basic kit is nothing more then a ballanced crank, pistons/rings, rods, and in some kits main barrings.
its main purpose is to increese lowend tourque, substauntly reduce turbo lag, and increase the amount of air you can push by upto 15% 50lb/min anybody? i dont know all that much about them, im in the infent stage of building a 2.3l 6 bolt.
a basic kit is nothing more then a ballanced crank, pistons/rings, rods, and in some kits main barrings.
its main purpose is to increese lowend tourque, substauntly reduce turbo lag, and increase the amount of air you can push by upto 15% 50lb/min anybody? i dont know all that much about them, im in the infent stage of building a 2.3l 6 bolt.
hellah fresh
11-10-2004, 11:32 PM
u ask alot of questions haha
o*HeR()
11-11-2004, 12:54 AM
yes only way to get the answers
LandoAWD
11-11-2004, 08:01 AM
i allready have a stage 2 turbo and race fmic , with all the little mods that go along, plus big injectors 3 inch exhaust no cat race 3 inch down pipe g1 intake mani, ported turbo mani dejon tool ic piping all around. greddy bov dsm link and im waiting for the new cable and disc in the mail, um fuel pump , wired wastegate /external act racing clutch , and a few more extras that i cant think of right now but should i start building the motor now? cause i havnt touched it yet, i have all bolt on mods and what should i get first
What do you run now? If it is thirteens, ask how to hit 12s not 10s.
What do you run now? If it is thirteens, ask how to hit 12s not 10s.
joemathews
11-11-2004, 11:52 AM
What do you run now? If it is thirteens, ask how to hit 12s not 10s.
He's in the 12s I believe. Time to get into the 11s, then start dreaming about 10s (or go on the bottle ;))
He's in the 12s I believe. Time to get into the 11s, then start dreaming about 10s (or go on the bottle ;))
o*HeR()
11-11-2004, 01:36 PM
What do you run now? If it is thirteens, ask how to hit 12s not 10s.
i run 12's now but i dont wanna run nos just more motor and boost
i run 12's now but i dont wanna run nos just more motor and boost
BoostedSpyder
11-11-2004, 02:41 PM
1g race preped head, MAFt setup, 900+ injectors, the turbo that Kevin has [GTR35? or something like that], tube exhast mani, remove the b-shafts, better radiator/fans, pully kit [might as well] race gas, lots of dyno time, and lots of passes...
oh and a big wing and lots of stickers. that is manditory, the stuff up there in not ;)
oh and a big wing and lots of stickers. that is manditory, the stuff up there in not ;)
guitarXgeek
11-11-2004, 03:07 PM
I'd suggest a set of 272/272 cams, 1g intake mani and head, and a 60mm TB all to help squeeze a few more lb/min's of airflow out of your setup right now.
If you have to ask how to get into the 10's, then you shouldn't even be considering 11's. A LOT of time, money, work, and knowledge is needed to get into the low 11's, much less 10's which you're wanting to get. Max out the setup you have now, see what kind of times you run with it, and then decide if you really want to spend the money to run 10's. :2cents:
If you have to ask how to get into the 10's, then you shouldn't even be considering 11's. A LOT of time, money, work, and knowledge is needed to get into the low 11's, much less 10's which you're wanting to get. Max out the setup you have now, see what kind of times you run with it, and then decide if you really want to spend the money to run 10's. :2cents:
JoeWagon
11-11-2004, 03:36 PM
People are trying to help more than I thought. I read the thread title and thought of an orange supra with 10k in overnight parts from japan... but seriously?
You need a a turbo that's qualified for the job. Then, you decide if you're going to run enough power to blow up a stock motor. So, yes, you need a built motor. Add supporting mods for a large turbo.
Where does that put you? A completely re-done engine bay, gutted interior, and prayer. I don't think you're ready.
You need a a turbo that's qualified for the job. Then, you decide if you're going to run enough power to blow up a stock motor. So, yes, you need a built motor. Add supporting mods for a large turbo.
Where does that put you? A completely re-done engine bay, gutted interior, and prayer. I don't think you're ready.
MoozillaGSX
03-11-2005, 12:24 AM
You have a very long way to go to run 10s. What size is "big" for those injectors? WTF is a stage 2 turbo? Odds are your pump is too small, but no size is given. 60 foots are a huge part of low ETs, what is your suspension tire setup? That 2G mas of yours is gonna have to go. You can certainly get it there, but trust me, its not easy! Its mostly in the little things. I cant keep motors together, and it seems it may all come down to the deck height and piston to head clearance. Go figure. I'm going to post this info in a bit in the performance section. Its a long hard road :) But I think right now the motor may be the last of your concerns unless its a 7 bolt.
can you explain more to me about the coment you made about the " Unless you have a 7 bolt" ?? what if you have a 7 bolt? i have a 7 bolt.....is that bad or somthing ?
can you explain more to me about the coment you made about the " Unless you have a 7 bolt" ?? what if you have a 7 bolt? i have a 7 bolt.....is that bad or somthing ?
MoozillaGSX
03-11-2005, 12:25 AM
sorry for re-newing this thread btw, i just wanted clarification on that coment he made.
EclipseRST
03-11-2005, 05:59 AM
7 bolt motors dont like a lot of power... Tend to crank walk easily if given certain reasons too, search up on it, read about it, then if you still have questions post them up. :thumbsup:
kjewer1
03-11-2005, 07:41 AM
People have been putting down some impressive numbers on 7 bolts lately! But the fact remains that the 7 bolt rods are smaller than 6 bolt rods. My point was that people have runs 10s on stock 6 bolts many a time, but 7 bolts, not so much. I know one guy that is damn close, but you dont see too many poeple trying. ;) In the context of the above quoted post, if he had a 6 bolt he wouldnt have to change that right away, if it was a 7, he should be looking into it, and probably adding it to the list of other parts he had that had to go to make way for 10 second parts. Hope that clears it up. :)
And no problem reviving the thread IMO. That is the correct way to do it. Something that relates directly to the previous conversation.
And no problem reviving the thread IMO. That is the correct way to do it. Something that relates directly to the previous conversation.
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