cheapest route to 225-250 hp?
ricergribbs
11-08-2004, 11:33 PM
hey i was just wondering whats the cheapest engine that can be swapped into a last gen crx that can hit the 225-250hp mark? by cheapest i mean after all the mods and after actually hitting that mark, and including all teh parts needed to swap it in etc? oh and if you have a rough estimate on actual cost plz post that too. i would do all teh work myself so you dont have to count that. and most importantly, id like to avoid any use of nitrous, but turbo, supercharger, and NA all have the go ahead.
Greenblurr93
11-08-2004, 11:45 PM
b18b with turbo
sivic02
11-09-2004, 11:07 PM
I am not sure if there are any mounts for it yet but i have come to love the k-series engines. It will cost you a little more but i would go with a k20a. Out of the box you get 220hp so with minor mods you can easily reach your 225-250 mark. Also this is a n/a engine which means if you save up some more money you can buy some low compression pistons and go turbo. It is probably more expensive than what you are looking for but i think it would be worth it.
95dxcivic
11-10-2004, 12:37 AM
b18b + turbo + 50 shot for turbo spool
5k-6k dollars. Who know what times youll be running. Maybe 12's or faster. 200-250 Hp I think. Could be more.
5k-6k dollars. Who know what times youll be running. Maybe 12's or faster. 200-250 Hp I think. Could be more.
Kven
11-10-2004, 01:23 AM
superchargered 2.0l b18b :)
if you want a k-motor but are going to turbo it anyways; go with the k24 ;)
if you want a k-motor but are going to turbo it anyways; go with the k24 ;)
sivic02
11-10-2004, 10:08 AM
oohh i forgot about the k24's mmmm....torque yeah if your gonna go k get a k24 make sure you get it out of a tsx or at least drop a k20a2 head on it but yeah k24's are quite sexy
civickiller
11-10-2004, 02:37 PM
the cheapest way is b18b and a turbo.
Kven
11-10-2004, 04:33 PM
if you get a tsx k24, you dont need the k20a head. the tsx motor is that good; best out of all the other k24s.
CivicSpoon
11-10-2004, 04:52 PM
"hey i was just wondering whats the cheapest engine that can be swapped into a last gen crx that can hit the 225-250hp mark? by cheapest i mean after all the mods and after actually hitting that mark, and including all teh parts needed to swap it in etc?"
No offence, but some of you are smoking crack. Read the quote above ^^^. A LS turbo would be far cheaper to put into a crx than a K-series. Not to mention the fact that he said 225-250hp, which a K-series motor is only 200-220hp. Even the RSX Type R (the fastest with 220hp) costs $5,500-$6,000 for the engine and parts, not to mention all the parts you need to actually get it into the car.
No offence, but some of you are smoking crack. Read the quote above ^^^. A LS turbo would be far cheaper to put into a crx than a K-series. Not to mention the fact that he said 225-250hp, which a K-series motor is only 200-220hp. Even the RSX Type R (the fastest with 220hp) costs $5,500-$6,000 for the engine and parts, not to mention all the parts you need to actually get it into the car.
crxlvr
11-10-2004, 10:50 PM
i agree b18a with a turbo would easily get you there for under 5g.
sivic02
11-10-2004, 11:27 PM
Kven: i said "get it out of a tsx or at least drop a k20a2 head on it "
Also with the k-series i said it would be more expensive i was just giving my opinion. with a k series for not too much more you could build a n/a engine with the same power as a turbo engine
after driving several k-series engines i have to admit they respond better than other engines under hard driving but thats once again just my opinion
Also with the k-series i said it would be more expensive i was just giving my opinion. with a k series for not too much more you could build a n/a engine with the same power as a turbo engine
after driving several k-series engines i have to admit they respond better than other engines under hard driving but thats once again just my opinion
97CivicX
11-10-2004, 11:32 PM
k series- yea right. WAY out of the price range.
B swap and turbo- still pretty expensive
d16 and turbo- rods, pistons, and sleeved block pushing X amount of pounds. cheapest and easiest
B swap and turbo- still pretty expensive
d16 and turbo- rods, pistons, and sleeved block pushing X amount of pounds. cheapest and easiest
Kven
11-11-2004, 01:23 AM
the prices are already starting to go down on the k-series motors. for the price of a B18C swap you can buy a K20A swap(both Type-Rs)
CivicSpoon
11-11-2004, 01:29 AM
very true, the prices are going down and just abouyt the same. However it will cost more $ to get the K in there. I just think it'd be too much a hassle to put a k-series in anything older than a '92, even that's not easy but it has more room and mount kits and walkthroughs are readily available.
ricergribbs
11-11-2004, 11:07 AM
well heres the thing, right now i have a 2001 civic so i could swap a k-series into it pretty easily. but im looking for something a bit faster and i was thinking the crx with 250hp would be fast enough lol. but now ive been thinking about it and this would also have to be my everyday driver. on dates and everything :naughty:. but now ive been thinking and maybe thats not such a good idea because i dont think every girl wants that type of thing every single time shed see me. so maybe swapping a k-series into my current car would be a better idea? what do u guys think? and some input from teh gals would help a lot too.
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 12:08 PM
so you mean you don't think a girl would like a powerful crx? why not? because of the looks, or because it is fast? a car is only as fast as you step on its gas pedal.
i think the crx with the b18a/b and a turbo would be a fun car. you should be able t get your power numbers without any trouble and just drive it easy when you are with a girl...
the 2001 with a k swap would be cool but it wouldn't run with a turbo b18 crx.
do you want cheap fast or not so fast but more expensive with some luxury?
i think the crx with the b18a/b and a turbo would be a fun car. you should be able t get your power numbers without any trouble and just drive it easy when you are with a girl...
the 2001 with a k swap would be cool but it wouldn't run with a turbo b18 crx.
do you want cheap fast or not so fast but more expensive with some luxury?
Kven
11-11-2004, 12:23 PM
im guessing you never seen the video with the stock-internal k20a(intake, header and ecu/tune are the only mods) crx vs. a fully built b20/vtec eg civic. btw that k20a crx runs 11.8 in quarter mile, and is streetable. if you have time; wait for k swaps to become more popular(hasport and hybrid racing are releasing mounts soon for ef/k-series swap). if you want something a little quicker, b18 sc or turbo(or go compound sc ;); theres another name for it but forgot what it was )
also it depends on where you are located; some places wont let you pass inspection with swapped (k)motor.
also it depends on where you are located; some places wont let you pass inspection with swapped (k)motor.
Miataracer
11-11-2004, 12:27 PM
not too surprising that a k20 crx beat a b20 vtec eg... the b20 vtec probably had less to poddiblyabout equal hp with the k20 and more weight
ricergribbs
11-11-2004, 03:49 PM
well at first i was all gunho about power and something id like. but would a girl like to see me pull up in a tiny crx for a date? so now i got to thinking about that. and theres actually a k20 swapped/turboed 7th gen out there that runs low 12's high 11's running 8 pounds of boost and not too much on engine mods. thing is though that i could prolly build the entire crx if i sell my current vic, and if i do hte k20 swap id have to fork out around 7grand. ok heres a question, if i want a car that runs at least 15.0, i have a budget of lets say 12500 (5000 if u tell me to stick with my current civic) what should i do? i want a daily driver, like i said under 15.0, handles decent, some luxury (what i have in my current civic is about what id like to keep), what would be a good car to mod? any ideas?
sivic02
11-11-2004, 06:06 PM
if you have $12500 to burn into a car just get either a 99-00 or a 02-up si, put an intake and exhaust on it and after you get used to it you can run under 15
ricergribbs
11-11-2004, 09:47 PM
well im its just a guestimate. i think ill be able to get a loan for 5000$ and i could get around 7500 for my civic so itll be around 12500 if i sell it. but i dont know, im kinda liking the idea of swapping a k20 into my current civic. oh well, thnx for now to all those who posted stuff. gonna have to go around and do some more research, but be sure ill be back. :sunglasse
CivicSpoon
11-11-2004, 09:56 PM
Personally (just my opinion), I'd get a K20 for your '01. As much as I'd personally love to have a crx, the '01 is still newer and you're less likely to have to spend $ to fix it up in the next few years. I just mean parts get old, you start getting rust, etc. Plus I'm really starting to like the new body style. But you should defiently think about it long and hard before you make a decision. There's nothing worse than makeing a decision and regreting it later.
ricergribbs
11-11-2004, 11:24 PM
yeah no question bout that civicspoon. im actually planning about a year and a half in advance. i was planning on getting the crx and starting it up this spring but then i thought about it and decided to put it off till next summer and do more research, and maybe even check out how the prices are on the k20 swaps then. but yeah im definetly not rushing into anything. :ukr: <- haha sorry had to put that, first time ive seen a ukrainian smily, and im ukrainian :evillol: .
civickiller
11-12-2004, 12:05 AM
if you only want a 15 flat, turbo your stock motor.
ricergribbs
11-12-2004, 12:24 AM
eh, nah id want something faster now that i think about it, prolly in the 13's. so im liking the idea of the k20 swap cause that alone would put me in the low 14s once i figure out how to drive it. then some cams, intake, exhaust, ecu itll be in 13's easy. but like i said ill research it some more.
sivic02
11-12-2004, 09:32 AM
check out http://www.hybrid-racing.com/ they have some good stuff on k-series swaps
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