3000GT SL vs. modified srt-4
3KSL95
11-08-2004, 04:55 PM
Well it goes somethin like this, i exit the freeway on my way back to campus when an srt-4 with aftermarket exhaust and a mean sounding blow off valve pulls up next to me and sounds off his bov. I pass him and rev pretty hard turning on to a side street where he pulls up next to me. Were at a 50 mile an hour roll and he starts a 3 honk start on three we go. It stays even through second and i shift to third around 73, about this time he starts to walk me slowly we shut it down around 90 and he's a car length ahead. We catch a light and he says damn man that thing is quick, im surprised you hung with me, i said thanks and asked what he had done he said a manual boost controller exhaust and bov. He asked what i run in the quarter turns out he runs a 13.9 which beats my 14.1 pretty handily. Well i was surprised at how fast the srt was and happy i hung with him. BY the way my friend josh was with me and the bastard weighs a good 240 pounds so that didnt help.
Well thats it sorry for the blob.
Well thats it sorry for the blob.
clawhammer
11-08-2004, 05:44 PM
The part about your friend was funny. Maybe you should race again. If you win, he'll probably never ride with you again.
3KSL95
11-08-2004, 05:50 PM
lol thanks, ive beaten stock srt's but this thing was crazy.
LotusDreams
11-08-2004, 06:27 PM
should have offered to race again, and put your pleasantly plump friend in the srt.
Igovert500
11-08-2004, 06:42 PM
Wow, I didn't realize you were running low 14s...nice run
Partizan
11-08-2004, 08:22 PM
Yeah, what have you dont to your SL? Don't know of many really tuned SLs.
carrrnuttt
11-08-2004, 08:31 PM
I'm gonna have to call BS until I see a time-slip or even a GTech shot, unless you happen to be one of the people at the top of the N/A list in here (very bottom): http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-fastest.htm
Oh, notice how the top ones have this: "ii" - which means they ran with nitrous?
Again, calling bullshit, because my 15.0 car has ran with about 3 SL's, and I have pulled two by half-a-car, and the modded one got me by only a car.
Oh, notice how the top ones have this: "ii" - which means they ran with nitrous?
Again, calling bullshit, because my 15.0 car has ran with about 3 SL's, and I have pulled two by half-a-car, and the modded one got me by only a car.
Partizan
11-08-2004, 08:33 PM
Yeah if you can provide a mod list that'd be cool, because SRTs are fast and I can't see an SL which is a tank hanging with one unless really modded.
pre98zetec
11-08-2004, 08:43 PM
Well from reading his old thread he has a new clutch, lightend flywheel, exhaust and intake. Correct me if I'm wrong.
carrrnuttt
11-08-2004, 08:47 PM
Well from reading his old thread he has a new clutch, lightend flywheel, exhaust and intake. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Well then the guys from Team3S are wasting their money, whenever they re-fill their N20 bottles.
He should go say something.
Well then the guys from Team3S are wasting their money, whenever they re-fill their N20 bottles.
He should go say something.
JCCR
11-08-2004, 09:14 PM
the srt are pretty fast! it would be hard for LS to even keep up unless heavily mod. but who knows maybe the srt driver was a rookie
90redgt
11-08-2004, 11:23 PM
Well from reading his old thread he has a new clutch, lightend flywheel, exhaust and intake. Correct me if I'm wrong.
lightened flywheel and clutch don't mean jack...exhaust n' intake are the only significant mods there. And i doubt those are enough to take an SRT4. The only time flywheel and clutch will make a difference is if there are other drivetrain mods (tranny, gears etc.) and a LOT of power on its way from the motor to the wheels. otherwise on a stock engine with basic bolt ons, there will be absolutely no difference felt. now of course you'll feel a difference if your clutch is going out and you are forced to replace it or the flywheel is bent so you have to replace it too. But thats a different story, i mean a perfectly fine stock clutch and a perfectly fine stock flywheel vs. "peformance" clutch and "performance" flywheel.
lightened flywheel and clutch don't mean jack...exhaust n' intake are the only significant mods there. And i doubt those are enough to take an SRT4. The only time flywheel and clutch will make a difference is if there are other drivetrain mods (tranny, gears etc.) and a LOT of power on its way from the motor to the wheels. otherwise on a stock engine with basic bolt ons, there will be absolutely no difference felt. now of course you'll feel a difference if your clutch is going out and you are forced to replace it or the flywheel is bent so you have to replace it too. But thats a different story, i mean a perfectly fine stock clutch and a perfectly fine stock flywheel vs. "peformance" clutch and "performance" flywheel.
pre98zetec
11-08-2004, 11:32 PM
I never said it was enough to take an SRT-4, Personally I agree 100% with carrrnuttt. I don't believe he took an SRT-4.
GTStang
11-08-2004, 11:56 PM
Just here to make it official :bs:
-Josh-
11-09-2004, 12:15 AM
Can i jump on the BS band wagon to!?!?!
-Jayson-
11-09-2004, 12:27 AM
*starts chanting* "Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit! Bull Shit!"
well it does seem kinda odd, that you should be the fastest NA car on that list, and all you have for performance is an intake and exhaust, while guys with N02 are just barely where your at.
well it does seem kinda odd, that you should be the fastest NA car on that list, and all you have for performance is an intake and exhaust, while guys with N02 are just barely where your at.
3KSL95
11-09-2004, 01:18 AM
i figured this would happen and i was prepared for it, sk8ter is right about my modds, however i will provide the full list of mods, lightened flywheel,dual plate clutch(woohoo), pullys, exhaust, and k&N FIPK. I never claimed to have beaten the modded srt however i have beaten a stock one, as well as several other cars known to run well into the 14's, unfortunately i will have to ask you guys to take me on my word. and there are several sl's running well into the 12's just go to
altered atmosphere.com to see the vid its the aam world cup vid. if you guys have any further q's i will be happy to answer them if you have any doubts.
altered atmosphere.com to see the vid its the aam world cup vid. if you guys have any further q's i will be happy to answer them if you have any doubts.
3KSL95
11-09-2004, 01:27 AM
Also im a sophomre at a&m corpus christi well on my way to a law degree. there is no reason for me to bullshit on the internet, im not mad at all about the bs call, i did run a 14.19 at 97 mph if that appears unbeleivable im sorry but i ask you to take my word, because it happened its true im not lying.
TypeS
11-09-2004, 08:46 AM
Haha, this is the most BS post ever. Just as a comparison, a RSX-S has about as much hp as you, and weighs almost 1000 pounds less. It runs high 14s. You'd be lucky to hit low 15s with those mods. Unless you bought a VR4 with SL badges, then I'd call you a bad driver.
Boosted1
11-09-2004, 08:47 AM
You do understand where they're coming from though, right? I have a VR4, and I BARELY beat an SRT-4 with nitrous spraying his intercooler, intake, and BOV. Plus, your guy had a MBC? It's just tough to believe, that SRT-4 was beside me until 120+. They are quick cars. The SL is lighter than the VR4, but it would take a lot of modding to match or come close to the VR4 or SRT-4's 1/4 mile time.
Mediocrity
11-09-2004, 08:56 AM
Corpus Christi?
Alright, In January I'm going to be down in Dripping Springs, TX to visit my girlfriend. How about you prove it to me then?
Alright, In January I'm going to be down in Dripping Springs, TX to visit my girlfriend. How about you prove it to me then?
carrrnuttt
11-09-2004, 08:57 AM
You do understand where they're coming from though, right? I have a VR4, and I BARELY beat an SRT-4 with nitrous spraying his intercooler, intake, and BOV. Plus, your guy had a MBC? It's just tough to believe, that SRT-4 was beside me until 120+. They are quick cars. The SL is lighter than the VR4, but it would take a lot of modding to match or come close to the VR4 or SRT-4's 1/4 mile time.
Add to that the fact that the people on Team3SI running anywhere near his time are all running nitrous...hmmm.
How about this:
- Sign-up at T3SI
- Put-in for that list, using their verification process
- Link it back to us, and rub it in our noses
Think about this:
Your car has 225HP stock, and similar TQ, and weighs-in at 3200lbs, with a 5-speed.
A 2004 Accord coupe V6 has 240HP stock, with similar TQ, and weighs-in at 2900-3000 lbs with a 6-speed.
A 2004 Accord 6-speed is not a 14.1 car.
Add to that the fact that the people on Team3SI running anywhere near his time are all running nitrous...hmmm.
How about this:
- Sign-up at T3SI
- Put-in for that list, using their verification process
- Link it back to us, and rub it in our noses
Think about this:
Your car has 225HP stock, and similar TQ, and weighs-in at 3200lbs, with a 5-speed.
A 2004 Accord coupe V6 has 240HP stock, with similar TQ, and weighs-in at 2900-3000 lbs with a 6-speed.
A 2004 Accord 6-speed is not a 14.1 car.
TypeS
11-09-2004, 09:10 AM
I thought his car weighed 3800 pounds? I've heard of numerous GT3000s running low 16s. I don't know if it's the SL or the slower one, but I don't have respect for them unless they're heavily modded, or it's a VR4.
Boosted1
11-09-2004, 11:57 AM
The VR4 weighs 3800lbs. Take away the AWD and the twin turbos, and you have an SL, but unless it's 1000+lbs lighter, it isn't running low 14's.
TypeS
11-09-2004, 12:07 PM
Oh well, I guess edmunds needs to check their stats because they're weighing the VR4 and SL both in at 3797, which couldn't possibly be true :grinyes:
Either way, a Lexus IS300 weighs about the same as the SL and makes about the same amount of power, but it doesn't come close to those numbers.
Either way, a Lexus IS300 weighs about the same as the SL and makes about the same amount of power, but it doesn't come close to those numbers.
3KSL95
11-09-2004, 12:10 PM
mediocrity i would be mor than happy to show you my car when you come down in january, just keep me posted and i would be happy to meet up with you. and yes i understand where your all coming from, maybe i have the freakest sl ever idk but im not lying maybe the autotrack timer was off idk but in any case i have beaten and hung with and when i say hang i mean less than a car length behind several cars known to run well into the 14's
3KSL95
11-09-2004, 12:11 PM
and the sl weighs 3400lbs curb weight
-Josh-
11-09-2004, 01:26 PM
Go to the track this weekend and get a timeslip. That would be quicker than waiting until January.
Mediocrity
11-09-2004, 04:05 PM
Id like to see a low 14s SL run anyway. so I'll let you know when and where.
You can even run up against my girls TA
You can even run up against my girls TA
Igovert500
11-09-2004, 04:42 PM
I'm not claiming he is running what he says...I'll wait for a timeslip on that...however just to comment on your posts.
Haha, this is the most BS post ever. Just as a comparison, a RSX-S has about as much hp as you, and weighs almost 1000 pounds less.
First off, SLs weigh 3200-3500 stock with a full fuel tank (http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm) Edmunds doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.
It runs high 14s. You'd be lucky to hit low 15s with those mods.
Secondly, I know personally of people pulling 14.9s with stock SLs...all SLs are capable of low 15s...so luck has nothing to do with that.
So back to the the actual topic. So hypothetically lets say he could run a 14.9 stock, that means he dropped .8 in the 1/4 with pulleys, intake, and exhaust.
3KSL95 I dunno man, you got a timeslip to show us, because that is one hell of an improvment.
I mean, that means you are running .6 behind a stock vr4 that has AWD and another 100hp on you.
Haha, this is the most BS post ever. Just as a comparison, a RSX-S has about as much hp as you, and weighs almost 1000 pounds less.
First off, SLs weigh 3200-3500 stock with a full fuel tank (http://www.team3s.com/FAQ-Specs1.htm) Edmunds doesn't know what the hell they are talking about.
It runs high 14s. You'd be lucky to hit low 15s with those mods.
Secondly, I know personally of people pulling 14.9s with stock SLs...all SLs are capable of low 15s...so luck has nothing to do with that.
So back to the the actual topic. So hypothetically lets say he could run a 14.9 stock, that means he dropped .8 in the 1/4 with pulleys, intake, and exhaust.
3KSL95 I dunno man, you got a timeslip to show us, because that is one hell of an improvment.
I mean, that means you are running .6 behind a stock vr4 that has AWD and another 100hp on you.
3kgt8
11-09-2004, 05:26 PM
What the hell? an SL weighing 1000lbs more than a rsx-s ? sorry thats not true. an SL weighs around 3200-3400 lbs with 222hp. and yea i agree with igovert, there have been people getting very low 15s with SL's and i have even seen an SL run a 15.0 with just exhaust. oh and types i really wish you could go against a 99 SL and you might be surprised with what the outcome would be.
TypeS
11-09-2004, 06:44 PM
What the hell? an SL weighing 1000lbs more than a rsx-s ? sorry thats not true. an SL weighs around 3200-3400 lbs with 222hp. and yea i agree with igovert, there have been people getting very low 15s with SL's and i have even seen an SL run a 15.0 with just exhaust. oh and types i really wish you could go against a 99 SL and you might be surprised with what the outcome would be.
Yeah me too, I wish we could get it on video to prove it. :iceslolan
Like I said before, I got the numbers of edmunds and obviously they're wrong, so that's why I said they weigh that much. They had both, the VR4s and SLs at the same weight, I didn't notice. I admit I was wrong.
But either way, no way did he run that just because of what other cars run with that type of power. Well acutally, I mean if he has a factory freak, then that's a different story. But it takes a lot to go from 14.9 (best SL time) to 14.1, and a couple of bolt ons won't do it. Btw, does the SL trap over 100 mph? If not, we can race.
Maybe it was the GT3000 with the smaller engine that people said was running 16s.
Yeah me too, I wish we could get it on video to prove it. :iceslolan
Like I said before, I got the numbers of edmunds and obviously they're wrong, so that's why I said they weigh that much. They had both, the VR4s and SLs at the same weight, I didn't notice. I admit I was wrong.
But either way, no way did he run that just because of what other cars run with that type of power. Well acutally, I mean if he has a factory freak, then that's a different story. But it takes a lot to go from 14.9 (best SL time) to 14.1, and a couple of bolt ons won't do it. Btw, does the SL trap over 100 mph? If not, we can race.
Maybe it was the GT3000 with the smaller engine that people said was running 16s.
Igovert500
11-09-2004, 07:14 PM
No the SL doesn't trap at over 100 stock, and if any 3000gt/stealth is running 16s it was a 97-99 base 3000gt or any base Stealth with 161/164hp.
TypeS
11-09-2004, 07:24 PM
Anyone in the Chicago area with an SL wanna race? We can get it on tape.
3KSL95
11-09-2004, 08:05 PM
You are probably right igovert maybe i didnt run a 14.1 the timer on our acutrack must have malfunctioning or something, but please dont think i am lying intentionally and by the way congrats on becoming a mod it was about time. and mediocrity i would be happy to meet you wherever,as for your girls ta that may be a pointless run those thingsd are seriously fast.
Boosted1
11-10-2004, 08:30 AM
Type S, if I remember correctly, you ran an SRT-4 pretty hard...don't waste time with the SL, you'll win. People are overestimating them a bit, they would be quick, but stock, not THAT quick. Nothing against SL's btw.
90redgt
11-10-2004, 09:58 AM
lets just wait till he gets a timeslip or a video of him racin' someone that runs 14s.
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