And it begins...

Well if his contract is up then go him, if not then stop bitching because the millitary still owns you.

That summed it up nicely.













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Well if his contract is up then go him, if not then stop bitching because the millitary still owns you.

Did you actually read the article? He got out of active duty 13 years ago, and ended his inactive reserve obligations 8 years ago, since it's usually a 4-year obligation, after your enlistment ends.

Yeah, go him.

well....the guy served 12 years for his country,4 years in active service, and was discharged honourably,I'd say that he's more than honoured his country.He has a wife and family,and a business to run.Looks like he got himself a good life.


Is the military that short of people that they really have to take people back against their will? Surely with the number of people who voted to continue with the present administration's agenda, there would be a queue of people volunteering to enlist?

Perhaps if those who are spoiling for a fight backed it up by doing their service, those who have more useful goals could be allowed to persue them in peace.

He is a specialist that is in a critically high occupational skill in the war. Fuel convoys and fueling facilities are a prime target, so he'd better get over there and pitch in. I'm sure that he knows what he signed up for, and took the contract along with the paycheck. All that was explained to him when he joined up. I have little sympathy for those that join the military, get cush jobs that pay the same as grunts get, then whine if they are required to actually get dirty or take risks. The grunts do it every day, all day. I have a daughter headed over there right now, and even she ain't cryin like this guy.

He is a specialist that is in a critically high occupational skill in the war. Fuel convoys and fueling facilities are a prime target, so he'd better get over there and pitch in. I'm sure that he knows what he signed up for, and took the contract along with the paycheck. All that was explained to him when he joined up.

And his whole argument is that his contract is long since expired.

He needs to re-read that contract, the part that states that he may be called back according to the needs of the Army. All's they really promise is that you will do more time, if you're needed. The only thing that changes is the level of authority that is used to call a soldier back. They can bring back a general to peel potatoes if they want to. The reason you don't hear of it more often is that most people do their duty without having to be told, just asked.

Earlier this year: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/8/211807.shtml


Mark my words - this is just the start.

If he doesn't want to fight he doesn't have to, he's served his time and has other responsibilities to attend to now, family is the most important thing and should come before anything else in anyone's life.

I agree he should not have to go back, but if he's legaly the millitary's bitch then theres not much to it.

If you are still legally liable 13 years after having been honorably discharged, that's one mother of a contract.

fuck it im moving to canada

Bye

I hope he wins, because its been 13 years.

He needs to re-read that contract, the part that states that he may be called back according to the needs of the Army. All's they really promise is that you will do more time, if you're needed. The only thing that changes is the level of authority that is used to call a soldier back. They can bring back a general to peel potatoes if they want to. The reason you don't hear of it more often is that most people do their duty without having to be told, just asked.

Is the military that short of people that they really have to take people back against their will? Surely with the number of people who voted to continue with the present administration's agenda, there would be a queue of people volunteering to enlist?

Perhaps if those who are spoiling for a fight backed it up by doing their service, those who have more useful goals could be allowed to persue them in peace.

Couldnt have said it better naki. :thumbsup:

Spoiling for a fight? Just who are you referring to, Al Queda?

And you're dreaming if you think that your "persuing more useful goals" would be possible without our soldiers doing what they do. But then, no-one is banging on your door to serve, are they?

and i thought you blind bastards said the draft wasn't happenning?

;-)

not a draft if its in a contractual agreement which the person signed

Well, it would seem that he has a valid case here. I'm not sure about the rules and regulations and fine print, but to me, an "Honorable Discharge" means you've served your term, done your duty, and then been released back to civilian life. Hence, you could only be called back under a draft, or if you re-enlisted or something like that. But he's completed his contractual obligation. If there's shit in the fine print that declares you the army's permanent bitch until you're too old to serve, giving them the right to turn around and call you back even if they've released you with your walking papers, I have a feeling there will be a good deal more pissed off people experiencing this in the coming months.

Spoiling for a fight? Just who are you referring to, Al Queda?

No, he's referring to those Americans who are gung-ho for the war with Iraq, whether putting it as their primary concern in re-electing the current administration to a second term, slapping pro-war bumper stickers on their cars, speaking highly of our aims abroad, and talking smack to and about those who don't support the war, and yet when asked why they aren't enlisting if they support the whole thing so much, they always seem to have some sort of excuse.

ouch.

Spoiling for a fight? Just who are you referring to, Al Queda?

And you're dreaming if you think that your "persuing more useful goals" would be possible without our soldiers doing what they do. But then, no-one is banging on your door to serve, are they?

Why am I dreaming? Seems that in pretty much every other western country in the world, people can pursue their goals without their respective armies getting regularly involved in armed conflict in other peoples' countries.

As for the throwaway line on the bottom,I have served.Quite what the relevance is I'm not sure, but I am sure that if you persist in turning every argument into a personal shitfight, you will be removed.

And you're dreaming if you think that your "persuing more useful goals" would be possible without our soldiers doing what they do. But then, no-one is banging on your door to serve, are they?

Right, because those Iraqis were totally preventing Americans from pursuing more useful goals.