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F16 Fires on Elementary School????


thegladhatter
11-04-2004, 11:33 PM
How is this on the Internet but not TV? Is it a hoax? ...or just NEW news?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137632,00.html

Ricochet
11-04-2004, 11:43 PM
how come nothing cool like that happened when I was in school

thegladhatter
11-04-2004, 11:46 PM
...then there's this one...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136408,00.html

I was statione there for 6 months. Nothing cool EVER happened there!

Jimster
11-04-2004, 11:47 PM
Wow, fox is a decently reliable source, but a hoax? I'm really not sure, I'm off to swtich on CNN.

taranaki
11-05-2004, 12:22 AM
Missed the target by 3 and a half miles...

Hit an elementary school......


Fortunately, it was out of school hours. Hope the pilots in Iraq are a little more accurate.

thegladhatter
11-05-2004, 12:25 AM
I once was a Vice Principal at a school where we had drive-bys all the time (late at night)....never a fly-over though.

taranaki
11-05-2004, 12:32 AM
I once was a Vice Principal at a school where we had drive-bys all the time

Have you ever considered the possibility that you may have been the target? :eek: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Marc-OS
11-05-2004, 01:00 AM
Accident? I think not. I smell conspiracy....

thegladhatter
11-05-2004, 01:15 AM
You haven't driven through Charlotte NC have you??

If not....nah. It was just in a really rough part of town. (smarty pants :))

thegladhatter
11-05-2004, 01:16 AM
Accident? I think not. I smell conspiracy....
We can always blame George Bush!

ec437
11-05-2004, 01:22 AM
or michael moore.

Neutrino
11-05-2004, 01:55 AM
Or if that would've been a ghetto high school and students were present the news would read:

.....the pilot experienced heavy return fire.

thegladhatter
11-05-2004, 02:28 AM
Or if that would've been a ghetto high school and students were present the news would read:

.....the pilot experienced heavy return fire.
:D!!!

Toksin
11-05-2004, 04:12 AM
Maybe it was a message on the condition of the American education system?

:D!

Thourun
11-05-2004, 05:25 AM
Thats kinda funny, I heard the report on CNN and apparently there was somone inside who thought noises they heard was somone runing around on the roof.

ghostguy6
11-05-2004, 09:51 AM
Missed the target by 3 and a half miles...

Hit an elementary school......


Fortunately, it was out of school hours. Hope the pilots in Iraq are a little more accurate.
Why would anyone put a school that close to a live fire wepons range in the first place :screwy:

Rbraczyk
11-05-2004, 10:23 AM
Wonderful job we do training our military. How in the world could this have happened?

clawhammer
11-05-2004, 10:55 AM
I heard this on the radio on my drive to work this morning. I beleive it. Wish it would have screwed up my school though.

YogsVR4
11-05-2004, 11:37 AM
Considering the hundreds of thousands of training missions and nobody was hurt, I'm sure the person flying the plane is going to be a desk jockey from now on and additional safeguards will be put in place.

taranaki
11-05-2004, 11:48 AM
Why would anyone put a school that close to a live fire wepons range in the first place :screwy:

I think its more likely that the school was there first.

dugie6551
11-05-2004, 11:57 AM
Or if that would've been a ghetto high school and students were present the news would read:

.....the pilot experienced heavy return fire.

:lol2: :lol:

Also,

how do you miss the target by 3 1/2 MILES ??? :loser:

speediva
11-05-2004, 01:15 PM
It's not that big of a deal b/c no one cares about New Jersey... it's like a slightly-less inbred version of West Virginia. ;)

But all kidding aside, that's messed up.

Marc04
11-05-2004, 02:09 PM
is that what they are doing to failing schools now?

taranaki
11-05-2004, 02:36 PM
apparently, the US is planning to test some bombs by dropping them on Australia.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312417

Hopefully, that will be a big enough target for them....

lamehonda
11-05-2004, 02:40 PM
I don't recall an F-16 firing on my elementary school. Schools just aren't the same anymore. Whoever is responsible for this should be required to patch the holes in the ceiling.

NeonAtron
11-05-2004, 03:24 PM
"The National Guard takes this situation very seriously," said Lt. Col. Roberta Niedt, a spokeswoman for the state Department of Military and Veterans Affairs. "The safety of our people and the surrounding communities are our foremost concern."


Why do people always say things like that when the exact oppisite just happend? That shouldnt have happend in a million years. I think the janitor should have returned fire.

rwood13
11-05-2004, 03:45 PM
oops

SniperX13
11-05-2004, 03:52 PM
'Naki, the article clearly states that the test range has been used since the end of WWII, long before the surrounding areas (that means the school) was developed.

fredjacksonsan
11-05-2004, 03:56 PM
I hear the F-16 was at around 13 or 15000 feet. A couple degrees off in the angle of the plane from that altitude would make a big difference in where the bullets struck.

bobby28384
11-05-2004, 05:24 PM
Strange, but the story seems legit. At least no one was injured in the building. Do they do anything like that to the firing officer? Sounds just like a freak occurence.

eckoman_pdx
11-05-2004, 06:26 PM
I hear the F-16 was at around 13 or 15000 feet. A couple degrees off in the angle of the plane from that altitude would make a big difference in where the bullets struck.

You have the facts wrong. The plane was at 7,000 feet at the time it fired, not 13,000-15,000 feet.

Directly from the news website...

"The plane was 7,000 feet in the air when the shots were fired. The gun, an M61-A1 Vulcan cannon (search), is located in the plane's left wing. It fires 2-inch-long bullets that are made of lead and do not explode, said Webster."

ec437
11-05-2004, 06:41 PM
that's still over a mile high...

taranaki
11-05-2004, 07:08 PM
'Naki, the article clearly states that the test range has been used since the end of WWII, long before the surrounding areas (that means the school) was developed.


My bad,I didn't bother to read the link provided,I'd already read about it from a much more reliable source.

twospirits
11-05-2004, 09:04 PM
that's still over a mile high...Do they usually fire from that high up? If so, then no where is safe. Yikes.

TS out (in bunker)

fredjacksonsan
11-05-2004, 09:43 PM
Thanks Eckoman, I must have seen an early report this morning. Principle's the same though.

psychorallyfreak
11-06-2004, 01:04 AM
'Cha, that's just completely fucked up.
Did he sneeze and pull the trigger or something?
Did he hit anything else besides the school?
Because I'm just too damned lazy to read (or listen to) anything that Fox News has to say...

thegladhatter
11-06-2004, 02:05 AM
apparently, the US is planning to test some bombs by dropping them on Australia.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=312417

Hopefully, that will be a big enough target for them....
They will hone their skills there. After they achieve the necessary level of proficiency they will move on to smaller, more difficult targets like New Zealand. :)

ledhedsymbols
11-06-2004, 06:09 AM
Just a note about the M61-A1 cannon..... (that's what I worked on in the Navy prior to the prison guard gig.) it is a 20MM gatling type gun with six rotating barrels. I'm not sure about their configuration, but mine was pneumatic and fired 4,500 rounds per minute (not a typo) The rounds leave blazing fast, and dont start to drop ballistically speaking for over a mile..... LONG range puppies. My rounds were tungsten armor piercing, so I don't know too much about the ball ammo.

taranaki
11-06-2004, 07:06 AM
They will hone their skills there. After they achieve the necessary level of proficiency they will move on to smaller, more difficult targets like New Zealand. :)

and we will bring them down with out secret weapon..Macdonalds cheeseburger slices! :icon16:

twospirits
11-06-2004, 01:33 PM
and we will bring them down with out secret weapon..Macdonalds cheeseburger slices! :icon16:Ahh yes, the mystery meat defensive sheilds. Highly effective. Tougher than Godzillas' skin. :lol:

Back on topic, I still can't see how bullets out of a gun, any gun can effectively hit their target beyond a mile away without straying off a bit. Its not like a missle that can have onboard electonics that steer it to its intended target.

TS out (watching Godzilla vs McCheese)

Steel
11-06-2004, 11:15 PM
l:

Back on topic, I still can't see how bullets out of a gun, any gun can effectively hit their target beyond a mile away without straying off a bit. Its not like a missle that can have onboard electonics that steer it to its intended target.



They can't generally. That's why you shoot a lot of them, hoping that a few will hit.

The people living there should be thankful that it wasnt 25 rounds out of the main cannon of an A-10. 30mm of tank-churning-depleted-urnaium-balls-to-the-wall DESTRUCTION!

Read more about it :Dhere (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.military.cz/usa/air/in_service/weapons/cannons/gau8/gau_8a_small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.military.cz/usa/air/in_service/weapons/cannons/gau8/gau8_en.htm&h=100&w=169&sz=3&tbnid=3rYhuxd_gzEJ:&tbnh=55&tbnw=92&start=11&prev=/images%3Fq%3DGAU%2B8A%2BAvenger%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D)

http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/weapon/gau8_1.jpg

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