Type-R Turbo
99SpoonCivic
11-04-2004, 02:53 AM
I currently have a 99' Civic Si and wanted to upgrade the b-16. While looking for internals for my block i came across a stock b-16 Type-R block with 0 miles. So now i have a Type-R block and i really want to put a mild turbo setup on it with anywhere for 7-9 psi. I just havent found anyone to ask if this is possible with the compression of the type R. I don't know if i sould go N/A or turbo. If anyway possible i would like to go with the turbo. Just want a everyday driver with turbo but dont want to sell or scrap my type-R block. Any hints or suggestions are much needed.
GScivic7
11-04-2004, 03:07 AM
I'm sure it can handle 7 psi, but I wouldn't chance it. Replace the internals with forged parts.
ridestreet84
11-04-2004, 09:12 AM
is it a bare block or is it a block with internals if its a bare block it would be able to handle it you would just have to use lower compression pistons
kornflakes28546
11-04-2004, 12:02 PM
it can handle 7psi on stock internals I have a buddy that has a SC on his Si and has been running 8psi for a year and a half now with no problems.
b18ls
11-04-2004, 04:03 PM
If you change out your CTR pistons, let me know, I'll take them off your hands.
99SpoonCivic
11-04-2004, 06:24 PM
the block already has type R pistons, rods, and crank. It is ready to be dropped into the car. I just really don't want to put new pistons in it if I can get away with it.
b18ls
11-05-2004, 12:06 PM
The CTR pistons yeild a high comp ratio. You don't want this if your going Turbo. If you decide to go all motor, than you should keep the pistons. If not, you might want to change them.
Some one please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want him to think I'm lieing to get his pistons.
Some one please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want him to think I'm lieing to get his pistons.
kornflakes28546
11-05-2004, 12:24 PM
The CTR pistons yeild a high comp ratio. You don't want this if your going Turbo. If you decide to go all motor, than you should keep the pistons. If not, you might want to change them.
Some one please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want him to think I'm lieing to get his pistons.
you're right about the high compresion ratio on the type-r pistons but you can safely do F/I on high compression pistons, just with not as much boost.
For example: the power would be about the same if you had the high comp. type-r pistons with 7psi or lower comp. pistons with 12psi.
but if you want to run more boost either build up the internals or lower comp.
Some one please correct me if I'm wrong. I don't want him to think I'm lieing to get his pistons.
you're right about the high compresion ratio on the type-r pistons but you can safely do F/I on high compression pistons, just with not as much boost.
For example: the power would be about the same if you had the high comp. type-r pistons with 7psi or lower comp. pistons with 12psi.
but if you want to run more boost either build up the internals or lower comp.
Ricochet
11-05-2004, 07:22 PM
Man did you buy the wrong block for boost! I'd say 6-7psi might be okay, but if you're going to fork over thousands of dollars for a turbo kit just to see like 50hp (with those pistons, unless you feel like breaking parts), that's just stupid. I'd say swap them out for some 9:1 or 9.5:1 pistons so boost can be your friend, and a V8's enemy :)
b18ls
11-05-2004, 09:20 PM
With all that said, would you like to get rid of your pistons?
99SpoonCivic
11-06-2004, 04:00 AM
Naw, I am going to hang on to the pistons. I a mjust going to go all motor and a shot of nitrous. :naughty:
Ricochet
11-06-2004, 12:40 PM
You may want some different pistons for that too.. and rods. The ctr's are cast iron, which is too soft for the big bang nitrous makes. Say goodbye to your rings too, as the n2o will slowly melt them away. With the setup you now have, it's expensive, but your only feasible option is to go all motor.
Start with an Si short ram intake, 4-1 header with a 2.5" collector, a high-flow catalytic converter, and a 2.5" (apexi world sport) exhaust. If the money's right, get some yummy Toda B cams to wake her up in vtec and you'll have a quick, reliable ride. If you don't want the old parts you can always sell them for a nice chunk of change on here or other forums (i.e. www.honda-tech.com ).
Start with an Si short ram intake, 4-1 header with a 2.5" collector, a high-flow catalytic converter, and a 2.5" (apexi world sport) exhaust. If the money's right, get some yummy Toda B cams to wake her up in vtec and you'll have a quick, reliable ride. If you don't want the old parts you can always sell them for a nice chunk of change on here or other forums (i.e. www.honda-tech.com ).
b18ls
11-06-2004, 02:33 PM
With all that said, would you like to get rid of your pistons?
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kornflakes28546
11-06-2004, 05:12 PM
i say sleeve it and get some forged parts and still go boost! (and consider selling your pistons to b18ls cuz i can tell he really wants them:biggrin:)
blkciv98EXwithopes
11-06-2004, 09:47 PM
i have the stock vtech ex motor (d16y8)... and its ok with 7 psi boost, no new internals? If so, whats the best way to upgrade a turbo?
Ricochet
11-06-2004, 10:30 PM
i have the stock vtech ex motor (d16y8)... and its ok with 7 psi boost, no new internals? If so, whats the best way to upgrade a turbo?
It's fucking called VTEC, and we're not talking about sohc engines here, dick. Start your own thread and quit jacking other people's shit motherfucker.
It's fucking called VTEC, and we're not talking about sohc engines here, dick. Start your own thread and quit jacking other people's shit motherfucker.
DjMasaker
11-06-2004, 11:15 PM
It's fucking called VTEC, and we're not talking about sohc engines here, dick. Start your own thread and quit jacking other people's shit motherfucker.
Hahahaha....the pent up aggresion is released. But i do agree with Ricochet, you have a engine that has absolutely nothing to do with the question, all you are doing is confusing the guy with the question.
Hahahaha....the pent up aggresion is released. But i do agree with Ricochet, you have a engine that has absolutely nothing to do with the question, all you are doing is confusing the guy with the question.
blkciv98EXwithopes
11-06-2004, 11:30 PM
Go take your aggression to iraq, serve your country where you may be wanted.
Ricochet
11-06-2004, 11:34 PM
If hundreds of noobs didn't come in here shining their blatant ignorance and lack of common sense every week, I wouldn't have that built up aggression on here.
DjMasaker
11-06-2004, 11:44 PM
I'm with you man. I totally understand it all. And your points are well taken.
DjMasaker
11-06-2004, 11:47 PM
Go take your aggression to iraq, serve your country where you may be wanted.
And was there really a need to say anything that ridiculous? Do you have any idea wether he has been to Iraq or not? With something like that it's better just to keep your mouth shut as opposed to opening it, and pissing off the many military guys we got that visit this site. Have a little bit of respect seriously.
And was there really a need to say anything that ridiculous? Do you have any idea wether he has been to Iraq or not? With something like that it's better just to keep your mouth shut as opposed to opening it, and pissing off the many military guys we got that visit this site. Have a little bit of respect seriously.
99SpoonCivic
11-07-2004, 01:57 AM
Yeah i am going to just go N/A, the nitrous is just strictly for insurance though. I had it on my stock civic and i went through 2 bottles in a year. I don't go out and spray the crap out of it every weekend. Thanks for the advice though. That is what I thought with the compression of the type-R. And YES I am holding on to the pistons. But for some crazy reason I change my mind about something I know who I can sell them to. :iceslolan
b18ls
11-07-2004, 05:24 PM
Go take your aggression to iraq, serve your country where you may be wanted.
Perhaps you should keep your thoughts bottled up inside. If you must voice your opinion on service members and combat, try talking to your nearest recruiter. MARINE CORPS Beatch!
Back on subject. If your going N/A with your engine, then I would have to say keep the pistons. N/A is best IMO.
JDM nutt...
Perhaps you should keep your thoughts bottled up inside. If you must voice your opinion on service members and combat, try talking to your nearest recruiter. MARINE CORPS Beatch!
Back on subject. If your going N/A with your engine, then I would have to say keep the pistons. N/A is best IMO.
JDM nutt...
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