90,000 rule
guaty
11-04-2004, 01:09 AM
I've been hearing rumors that rx-7 engines give out after 90,000 miles is that true? If it is why?
89tracerman
11-04-2004, 01:11 AM
FD engines!!! TWIN TURBO yes
FC engines 13B if maintained they could probably reach 200K
FC engines 13B if maintained they could probably reach 200K
mcs
11-04-2004, 02:54 AM
would be expensive to keep it reaching 200k
drftk1d
11-04-2004, 11:27 AM
would be expensive to keep it reaching 200k
Yeah, since oil and filter changes are SO expensive :screwy:
Yeah, since oil and filter changes are SO expensive :screwy:
FCsilvia
11-04-2004, 12:44 PM
FD engines tend to become fragile after 65,000 miles because of carbon buildup from large injectors and the twin turbo system.
FC engines are a lot better. turbo engines average around 120k to 200k. There's a big spread depending on how well the car was taken car of. Non-turbo motors are a whole different story. I've seen some go up to 400,000+ miles on the original motor and seals. Its all about maintaining the car well.
FD3S - twin turbo, 550cc + 850cc injectors
FC3S turbo - single turbo, 550cc injectors
FC3S N/A - non-turbo, 450cc injectors
FC engines are a lot better. turbo engines average around 120k to 200k. There's a big spread depending on how well the car was taken car of. Non-turbo motors are a whole different story. I've seen some go up to 400,000+ miles on the original motor and seals. Its all about maintaining the car well.
FD3S - twin turbo, 550cc + 850cc injectors
FC3S turbo - single turbo, 550cc injectors
FC3S N/A - non-turbo, 450cc injectors
guaty
11-04-2004, 06:40 PM
fc silvia seems to know his stuff
clydes270
11-09-2004, 06:27 PM
I have 225k on my 87 NA. I am getting about 22 mpg highway (19 city). 2000 mi oil changes.
BrnOutKng
11-09-2004, 07:50 PM
200k? Thats Possible but like someone else said, Expensive.
Soyo
11-10-2004, 11:19 PM
they are easy as crap to maintain.... if you can't keep it running then sell it to someone with more common sense than you because regular oil and filter changes are the basic needs along with the usual things after a certain amount of miles
RedFC3S
11-11-2004, 12:13 AM
they are easy as crap to maintain.... if you can't keep it running then sell it to someone with more common sense than you because regular oil and filter changes are the basic needs along with the usual things after a certain amount of miles
exactly what he said
exactly what he said
Jims5543
11-11-2004, 10:31 PM
FC N/A = super reliable and not uncommon to see them get over 200k miles.
FC Turbo = very reliable when not modded. Once you start modding you shorten engine life. Stock? I have a friend that got 250K miles out of his. The only reason it blew is because he started modding it.
FD = Magority of its life it was beat on. The cooling system was inadaquate. The twin turbo's + the pre-cats wreck havoc on the engine. The rear turbo overheats thusly overheating the rear rotor housing leading to premature engine failure.
First mod to an FD? Downpipe wrapped in header wrap to get the heat away from the rear turbo.
FD's in stock form, unfortunatly, turned out to be unreliable.
Recomondations per Pettit Racing for ANY rotary car.
http://www.pettitracing.com/rx7/index.htm
The Following recommendations are intended to keep your car out of the shop and on your favorite road
#1. Always keep up with routine maintenance schedules as outlined in the owner's manual
#2. Upgrade your chassis and engine grounding points. (FREE kit with your first order.)
#3. Replace cooling system plastic air separator (A.S.T), well known for splitting in half with no warning causing massive coolant loss and overheating. Our very popular aluminum upgrade units are always in stock.
#4. Replace that dirty fuel filter!!! Countless premature engine failures are caused by a dirty fuel filter. Don't let this happen to you. Poor fuel quality also contributes to engine failures ALWAYS USE PREMIUM FUEL!!!
#5. Install a turbo boost gauge! This is the only way to be sure the turbos are working properly. We produce several kits. All are easy to install, and come pre-wired with detailed instructions.
#6. Use fuel lubricant. This has been proven to extend engine life at least 30%. See Protek-R for more information.
#7. Get a fire extinguisher!!! A must have for any vehicle...that way you will never need it! Our auto fire extinguisher installs in minutes and looks cool, too.
FC Turbo = very reliable when not modded. Once you start modding you shorten engine life. Stock? I have a friend that got 250K miles out of his. The only reason it blew is because he started modding it.
FD = Magority of its life it was beat on. The cooling system was inadaquate. The twin turbo's + the pre-cats wreck havoc on the engine. The rear turbo overheats thusly overheating the rear rotor housing leading to premature engine failure.
First mod to an FD? Downpipe wrapped in header wrap to get the heat away from the rear turbo.
FD's in stock form, unfortunatly, turned out to be unreliable.
Recomondations per Pettit Racing for ANY rotary car.
http://www.pettitracing.com/rx7/index.htm
The Following recommendations are intended to keep your car out of the shop and on your favorite road
#1. Always keep up with routine maintenance schedules as outlined in the owner's manual
#2. Upgrade your chassis and engine grounding points. (FREE kit with your first order.)
#3. Replace cooling system plastic air separator (A.S.T), well known for splitting in half with no warning causing massive coolant loss and overheating. Our very popular aluminum upgrade units are always in stock.
#4. Replace that dirty fuel filter!!! Countless premature engine failures are caused by a dirty fuel filter. Don't let this happen to you. Poor fuel quality also contributes to engine failures ALWAYS USE PREMIUM FUEL!!!
#5. Install a turbo boost gauge! This is the only way to be sure the turbos are working properly. We produce several kits. All are easy to install, and come pre-wired with detailed instructions.
#6. Use fuel lubricant. This has been proven to extend engine life at least 30%. See Protek-R for more information.
#7. Get a fire extinguisher!!! A must have for any vehicle...that way you will never need it! Our auto fire extinguisher installs in minutes and looks cool, too.
Soyo
11-11-2004, 10:41 PM
JIMS!! We've missed you man! haha I haven't seen a post from you in forever! where you been?
NuTbAgSaN
11-11-2004, 10:43 PM
^^ yeah its all the same stuff u should maintain on ANY car, u just get screwed over more if u dont do it with these.
J-Rat
11-12-2004, 03:13 AM
My N/A went 212,000 on the original motor.. Just oil changes, etc..
Jims5543
11-12-2004, 06:55 AM
JIMS!! We've missed you man! haha I haven't seen a post from you in forever! where you been?
Bah! I got really busy and really only had time to post on No Pistons. Then 2 Hurricanes hit where I live. My house is fine my office lost its roof. So I basically lost Sept. and Oct.
I will try to pass throught here more, although internet connections are sketchy since the hurricanes. I still have no access at work only intermitently at home.
Bah! I got really busy and really only had time to post on No Pistons. Then 2 Hurricanes hit where I live. My house is fine my office lost its roof. So I basically lost Sept. and Oct.
I will try to pass throught here more, although internet connections are sketchy since the hurricanes. I still have no access at work only intermitently at home.
{Hachi-Roku}
11-15-2004, 11:22 AM
If you mantained the engine then it would probably last for a long time, you could also rebuild one so that you could have a new start, that costs money.
drftk1d
11-15-2004, 03:50 PM
Bah! I got really busy and really only had time to post on No Pistons. Then 2 Hurricanes hit where I live. My house is fine my office lost its roof. So I basically lost Sept. and Oct.
I will try to pass throught here more, although internet connections are sketchy since the hurricanes. I still have no access at work only intermitently at home.
btw do you know if phins is done moving all the stuff to the new server? cuz np was slow as shit last time i was there.
I will try to pass throught here more, although internet connections are sketchy since the hurricanes. I still have no access at work only intermitently at home.
btw do you know if phins is done moving all the stuff to the new server? cuz np was slow as shit last time i was there.
Jims5543
11-15-2004, 11:44 PM
btw do you know if phins is done moving all the stuff to the new server? cuz np was slow as shit last time i was there.
Yes the move is done. Unfortunatly it seems like a hacker is trying to acess the new server. He had 580 login attempts on the server last night. Stupid hacker. The new server is like Ft. Knox. That is why he moved there. Plus the FBI is on it now too.
Sorry for the hijack.
Yes the move is done. Unfortunatly it seems like a hacker is trying to acess the new server. He had 580 login attempts on the server last night. Stupid hacker. The new server is like Ft. Knox. That is why he moved there. Plus the FBI is on it now too.
Sorry for the hijack.
Turbo II-FB
11-26-2004, 10:53 PM
so are you saying the 13b-t could last up too 120k are you sure about that?
mcs
11-26-2004, 11:08 PM
it could probably last longer.. depending how you run it..
Soyo
11-27-2004, 12:50 AM
I vote that it could last 180 maybe if you took excellent care of it, 150 probably without too much trouble as long as you did whatever was required...
mcs
11-27-2004, 01:44 AM
yer that sounds good enough :P
Turbo II-FB
11-27-2004, 02:53 PM
what ,but with the stock 2 mm apex seals I still dont know
Steel
11-30-2004, 06:13 PM
128k on the clock of the TII and still going strong.
daviddh85
12-05-2004, 09:01 PM
Rotaries are known for their efficiency, but they use oil as a lubricant as well as coolant for the rotors. I've changed the oil on my 81 rx7 and have put 150000 on it, but changing my oil religiously. The odometer now reads 352,620. that's about 4 times the '90,000' rule.
Soyo
12-06-2004, 10:56 PM
why are you talking about the 2mm apex seals? you don't want the 3mm ones unless you have a big port
D3rELiC
12-07-2004, 12:26 PM
Rotaries are known for their efficiency, but they use oil as a lubricant as well as coolant for the rotors. I've changed the oil on my 81 rx7 and have put 150000 on it, but changing my oil religiously. The odometer now reads 352,620. that's about 4 times the '90,000' rule.
you got a 12a, high milleage is something comon.
you got a 12a, high milleage is something comon.
mcs
12-07-2004, 06:25 PM
But changing my oil religiously. The odometer now reads 352,620. that's about 4 times the '90,000' rule.
how often is that?
how often is that?
daviddh85
12-07-2004, 06:45 PM
I change my oil every 3000 miles, no exceptions
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