Skylines

Why are people so hyped up about skylines? True they have more than excellent specs:

R34
Horsepower 277 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque 293 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
Weight 3306 lbs

Acceleration

0-40 mph 2.7
0-60 mph 5.2
0-80 mph 8.7
0-100 mph 13.0

but they are by no mean fenomenal. Plus they look kind of sedan-ish.
Is it because they can be moded to heck or is just a fad?

i think they are a cool car themselves, but i have to agree that they are waaay overhyped.

I feel they are cool cars but are overhyped. Another thing about them though is they have serious grip. If I remember right, they pull over a g on the skidpad stock, better than alot of other cars. The engine can also stand alot of power, around 800 if I remember right but im not sure.

well i love the aggressive in your face look of the front of hte R34. it looks like a bulldog with its angry eyes. its truely a monster lookin car. thats is why i love it. i honestly can't find any flaw in this car. it may not be the best. but most cars has major flaws. well i honestly can't find any major flaws with this one. that is why it remained my all time favorite car for 3 years without any change of mind like i do with every other car that i loved. plus those times are pretty wrong. most people i see from NZ on the skyline board and videos that i see of people runnin stock R34's. they can do 0-60 on a average of 4.7 seconds. and does quarter miles at 13 flat with a trap speed of 113mph. adn thats the slower times. they do 0-100 in just a tick above 10 seconds. around 10.5 that pretty much brings them in the 10 second car club. plus with its superior braking and handling. with its carbon fiber under tray that channels air from the hugh front dam to the rear. along iwth its rear under body carbon fiber spoiler with 4 wings. it keeps the car very stable at over 120mph. plus how it has a 6 traction sensors. 4 on each wheel and 2 at the diff's that monitors traction 10 times a second. plus its the first mass production car that broke the 8 minute barrier at the nurumburge. with the R33. it did it as 7.59 seconds. that record has been shattered by the R34 which did it in 7.47 seconds if i remembered right. plus how it was soooo much of a car when it first debuted in 89 that it was actually banned from racin becusae it just won every single race straight in the JTTC. it would win 11 out of 11 races. they won a total of 56 races. that is why they had to disable alot of its feature such as the attessa to make the game more fair. even with that taken out. it still won 8 out of 11 races with the R33 calsonic.

hahaha way over hyped???

Nah man you can modify the living piss out of those things 1600hp+ no methanol no nitrous just turbos and 108 octane gas :)


erm yea

http://www.exvitermini.com


check the skylines in the vids section

its also a gorgeous car.. but do u kno a car that has a back seat and can fit 5 ppl that will blow the doors off most cars especially if it was modded???????

There is no question they are over hyped. 1600 HP!!! Get real. Sure thats nice and all but I want to see this 1600HP Skyline and all what has been done to it because I am far too fed up with the hype behind this car. Granted it is quick, and it has good grip, but I know a few cars that have over 1G on the skidpad, the Viper being one of them. And this car is no where near woth $90,000. Give me a break. I can buy a much better car that I could get 7000HP if I wanted to.

I agree they are very nice to look at but really like polygon said I can't see spending that much on a car. if I was gonna spend $90k on a car it would be 10,000 on the car and 80,000 in engine, suspension, and everything else. after all of that I'd have a car that was streetable and insanely fast that would eat that Skyline for lunch. way to much hype. :)

It's hyped up in the U.S. because they're not readily available in the U.S. $90K is the MotoRex price because they had to foot the R&D bill for the conversion procedures. If Nissan had sold in the U.S. market, the price for a GT-R would have been way lower, because Nissan could have spread the costs across the entire sales batch. Surely it would have been enough to push the price of a new GT-R in the U.S. under $60K, perhaps under $50K, making it much more reasonable.

Personally, I think Nissan could have sold quite a few in the U.S. over the last 13 years, but apparently, they didn't think so... :(

i dunno. i think the nsx is not worth the money if your goin to complain about price. 90g's for a car thats less practical and has less parts and less electronics and less go fast goodies. plus it can beat a m3. soooo i dunno.

NSX is completely different it is a VTEC V6 that can do 175mph on 280hp i think thats pretty resonable but for the price NO i would prefer a V8 thankfully Honda is making one :D


And the Skyline isn't really overhyped i personnally think that the dodge Viper is waaayyyy over hyped that thing can't do diddly squat and if you care to sheck taht vid link you will see what a 1300hp Skyline can do 0-200 in 13.75 seconds and it can still corner and doesn't have LWB and isn't running nitrous or running on methanol

WANKIE

Originally posted by TatII
i dunno. i think the nsx is not worth the money if your goin to complain about price. 90g's for a car thats less practical and has less parts and less electronics and less go fast goodies. plus it can beat a m3. soooo i dunno. The NSX is a completely different story. A good chunk of the reason why the NSX is so expensive is because they're hand-made and all-aluminum. They're a bit more exotic that the average sports car, and as such, they command a more exotic price.

I don't understand what you mean by "less practical and has less parts and less electronics and less go fast goodies." 11 years ago, the NSX was at the top of the technological line. Now, it just happens to be an 11 year old model with a face lift. Being that it's 11 years old, it still works pretty well...

For the record, I'd rather have an NSX than a Skyline GT-R. :eek:Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
And the Skyline isn't really overhyped i personnally think that the dodge Viper is waaayyyy over hyped that thing can't do diddly squat and if you care to sheck taht vid link you will see what a 1300hp Skyline can do 0-200 in 13.75 seconds and it can still corner and doesn't have LWB and isn't running nitrous or running on methanol I think a Viper could own a Skyline, all things being equal...

Also for the record, I'd rather have an Viper than a Skyline GT-R, too. double:eek:

yea it would but it has a V10 and produces 400 hp out of a lousey 8 litres now erm 50hp per liter is pathetic

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
yea it would but it has a V10 and produces 400 hp out of a lousey 8 litres now erm 50hp per liter is pathetic 450hp and 490 lb*ft in a 3420 lb factory-stock car is impressive; full stop.

Back to Skylines. Make a new thread for other cars...

Originally posted by jay@af
Also for the record, I'd rather have an Viper than a Skyline GT-R, too. double:eek: LOL...good times.

But Skylines are a bit overhyped. I mean, there are others that do the same thing and put out nearly the same numbers. its all relative i guess. Honestly, i would save up a bit more and get an ultimite porsche. But thats only if im extremely rich, which i dont care to be in the first place. I would put it all into a 20,000 dollar car and mod the living monkey balls out of it...

yea well everyone is intitled to their own opinion.. soo umm.. yea.. Oh yea does the viper have the best record time at teh nurburgug umm i cant spell.. well i dont think so.. and umm the viper is a v10 adn the new one is wat 500hp and at 8.3 liters.. also the idea that a 2.6liter car can be over a 1000hp and well not break apart.. need i say more.. but thats my opinion ..

but the skyline debate thing has been done a million times and no one comes out the victor.. soo just end it.. if u dont like it thats great and if u do well thats great too..

Originally posted by ImportFreak
but the skyline debate thing has been done a million times and no one comes out the victor.. soo just end it.. if u dont like it thats great and if u do well thats great too.. This thread is not supposed to be a debate between the Skyline and other cars, it's to answer:Originally posted by Neutrino
Why are people so hyped up about skylines? ...
Is it because they can be moded to heck or is just a fad?

oh my bad.. it seemed like it was becoming one tho.. sorry.. tho yea they are sumwhat hyped up i think its only that way cause it costs us in the US, 90,000 dollars to get them in america and well a lot of ppl like it .. idont kno.. but whatever

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K

And the Skyline isn't really overhyped i personnally think that the dodge Viper is waaayyyy over hyped that thing can't do diddly squat and if you care to sheck taht vid link you will see what a 1300hp Skyline can do 0-200 in 13.75 seconds and it can still corner and doesn't have LWB and isn't running nitrous or running on methanol
WANKIE
Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
hahaha way over hyped???
Nah man you can modify the living piss out of those things 1600hp+ no methanol no nitrous just turbos and 108 octane gas :)


I keep hearing about those 1000 even 1600 HP skylines. How can you get so much power out of a 2.6 L engine? Is true you can do some serious forced induction like twin turbo charge it or twin super charging with 60 pounds of trust or more but to do that you would have to reinforce the engine and mod it so much that it would not be a skyline anymore but a custom made car. Because there is no way you can ad that much thrust to a stock engine. Even a powerful engine like a 426 hemi would need serious moding to reach 1600HP- the one in f&f had a huge blower on it and reached only 900HP. So how can you reach over 1000HP on a 2.6 V6 without major reinforcing of the engine and i mean reinforcing.

Also that chassis is designed to handle 277 HP and not 1000 so it would have to be also reinforced not to mention the transaxle, differential, gear box etc.

Would that be a skyline anymore?

skylines are overhyped because:

* we can't get them here in the U.S. --- therefore creating more demand for the true enthusiast

* every other skyline we see are modded out and produce a very good amount of power and in essence kind of brainwashing people to think that all skylines are this fast out of the box and are so great that they can produce this much hp

* they do look pretty sweet --- even though some people think they're like sedans, they're actually smaller than in the photos


vipers and others are great too but they seem to be just to played out.... not very accessible to a lot of people to mod --- you don't see them being featured in a lot of the magazines or videos we see

** plus they're not imports! --- so who cares???

I saw a skyline just shy of 1100 hp a while ago, and they did a top speed raving about how fast it got, but I was rather dissappointed with its just under 210. Also that charger was not making that much power they just say it was, one of the numerous errors in the movie. The chasis is designed to handle more than 277 and as i said before, the engine block's are designed for around 800 hp stock. They have alot of potentional, but its not my cup of tee, I'd take a viper or NSX or similar car anyday over the GT-R. I'm not saying it isnt't nice cause it is,a nd i liek the looks but its not the best car in teh world that people make it out to be, not stock anyway.

Originally posted by Psman32@af
I saw a skyline just shy of 1100 hp a while ago, and they did a top speed raving about how fast it got, but I was rather dissappointed with its just under 210. Also that charger was not making that much power they just say it was, one of the numerous errors in the movie. The chasis is designed to handle more than 277 and as i said before, the engine block's are designed for around 800 hp stock. They have alot of potentional, but its not my cup of tee, I'd take a viper or NSX or similar car anyday over the GT-R. I'm not saying it isnt't nice cause it is,a nd i liek the looks but its not the best car in teh world that people make it out to be, not stock anyway.

You are the first person to say that you acctually seen a 1100 HP skyline everyone else keeps talking about those like they are mythical monsters or UFO's. where did you see it and who mod it. was it in a race? Also max 210 mph on 1100hp that sounds kind of slow considering something like a diablo with 550hp can get 205mph. I guess it was probably the handling that was limiting it.

Also it's quite impressive that the block can stand up to 800hp and probably the chassis can take more than 277 but still long way to over 1000hp so those cars are probably extremelly moded.Also even if the block is tough you still need to change stuff like transaxle valves etc.

so those cars have to be racing cars a long way from the stock. you cannot get to numbers like 1600hp as nsx was puting it -numbers wich seem kind of hearsay- just by slaping on some turboes.

the nsx would be never be able to reach those numbers of hp. mod or no mod beucsae its block is tooo weak. it'll just blow it self up. plus the gt-r is known for havin one of the strongest trannies in the world. alot of those cars with 800+ hp are runnin on stock trannies. when pretty much every other car. the power would eat the tranny up in just a week. plus the gt-r is also known to have a really strong clutch. gt-r owners usually dump them at 8000rpm and it won't even fad. try doin that with any other car. i personally love the gt-r's stock performance. granted that its not the best. and i know that there are much faster cars out there. i don't make them out to be immortals. but i just love the car for what it is. i love its performance, i love its looks. i love everything about them. even though i know they're not the fastest cars out their. its all a matter of taste. i like my cars mean looking and can back up that mean looks with its extremely good performance. i can safely say that the gt-r is the worlds fastest sports coupe. name a faster car, then i'll be hard press. plus the only reason why the 1000 hp skyline can only do 210 is becasue its aerodynamic is as good as a brick, and the stock trannys gear ratio isn't geared to go that fast. its geared to go 170- 180. stock or modified, they are kick ass cars. granted yes i know some people make them out like gods. and i know they're not gods. but they're awesome cars none the less and i would pick that car over any car none the less. esp no stinkin nsx or a honda (please don't flame me~~ seen too many honda's and i find them lamer and lamer every day with the exception of the s2000 and the nsx. but still honda boys cna't brag about teh nsx being faster then the skyline cuse it just simpily isn't)

okay to set things straight soo theres no confusion. when i said name a faster car, i meant name a faster sports coupe. and don't name the m3 csuae the gt-r will and have already whooped that car's ass big time. any other sports coupe that you can think of?

Originally posted by TatII
but still honda boys cna't brag about teh nsx being faster then the skyline cuse it just simpily isn't)

I beg to differ on that one, graned the skyline can be tuned to greater numbers than the NSX, but both stock are neck and neck. Put them both on a road track, and the NSX will wipe the floor with the Skyline. And why is it that in JGTC that the NSX and Skyline are in the same class??

Please start a new thread to compare Skylines to other cars; and put it in Car Comparisons (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/f666/). Or just move this discussion to Skyline GT-R R34 vs. Acura NSX (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24).

Can you explain...Originally posted by Neutrino
Why are people so hyped up about skylines? ...
Is it because they can be moded to heck or is just a fad? ...without refering other cars?

i don't see how would a stock nsx beat a stock skyline. every magazine that has tested both. they admit tha the nsx is faster at all the points where they recorded its speed. the average speed is around 2mph faster then the gt-r. however, the final time is always better on the gt-r. the gt-r beats the nsx on an average of 2 second every time i've seen a magazine put a shoot out between the two. or on best motoring. the magazine shoot out is from sports compact car and thats a realy realiable source. and 2 seconds on a race in a autocross is an eternity.

Were are not talking autocross here, if we where the NSX would win hands down. That big heavy R34 pushes like crazy in tight corners. I have no less than 4 best motoring video that have battles between skylines, Rx7s, Lancers, WRXs and Nsxs. When the NSX comes into a turn neck and neck with the R34, the NSX makes the R34 like it is standing still, the NSX can outbrake it all day long. And I'm not sure where you get your number (I'm not saying they are bogus, i just dont know what article you mean) but I am not talking about 0-400 meters here I am talking true road racing. Keep in mind also that both the R34 and the NSX are rated at 280bhp from the showroom floor, albeit those numbers may be a little low on the R34, the NSX in lighter than the skyline. Dont get me wrong, i love skylines, I drove an older R32 and it was one wicked ride, but I have also driven my uncles NSX, and have to say that the NSX is much more well behaved and in my mind the only car that a true performance enthusiast would want to drive for all around quickness and nimbleness. The GTR is if you wanna get 1000hp out of a car and go really fast in a straight line; to each is his own.

-Rob

okay okay, i would like to ask all you out there that are saying the GT-R is over hyped, have you ever sat in one, have you ever felt the rush of drifting one. i cant believe some of you guys are comparing a viper to a GT-R, which i would like to add only sells for 30K in japan. a couple of years ago motor trend did an article about a lot of top end cars, i cant remember all of them but i do know some of them were the corvette, viper, ferrari, porsche, and i think the nsx. i know there were at least two more iin that line up. but the point is, the corvette scored the lowest over all. it had the slowest of everything. the only thing it did good on was the braking(60-0, 100-0). but even though it had the worst score, can anyone tell me why it was the favorite of all the cars, why the drivers argued over who was going to drive it everyday. they rated the vette, to be the most fun to drive.
thats whats going on with the GT-R, and i think i will add that disengaging the all wheel drive, makes it even more fun. i feal that thoughs of you that say it is over hyped, just havent experinced it.
take your viper out drifting and see if it can compare to the GT-R. i think not. and for all you 180sx lovers out there, a frined of mine dropped a R34 into his 180, if you want to see some explosive speed, there you go.

there was only one time in the best motoring video international where the nsx had beaten the skyline. and that was at the suzuka track and it was a scorching day. plus in every other best motoring international video where they were racing in the sugo. the gt-r always spanks the nsx. on every corner. it has better braking. why do you think they always praise the skyline for its braking? the skyline is slower int he straights but can easily catch up on the corners. and the nsx isn't exactly light either. it weights at around 3200lbs. plus it gets tooo tail happy. no traction. when you push a gt-r harder, it will actually drive faster. thats exactly what rhys millen said (us pikes peak hill climbing champ) he paced the gt-r a whole 2 seconds faster then the nsx. its in the december issue of sports compact car where it has a brilliant blue stock R34 on the cover. plus if you watch all the best motoring international translated in english. from issue 01 to 03. the gt-r spanked the nsx. soooooo bad. don't believe me? watch them. also in the super battle 2000 when they had the F40, F50, F355, lambourgini, GT2, GT3, and guess what car represented japan? not the nsx, it woudln'vbe gotten murdered even worse thent he GT-R did. atleast the GT-R almost beat the F355. plus honda makes the nsx's brakes. the gt-r has brembo brakes. it has even better brakin then the 420hp porches 996 turbo. it also has air channels underneth the entire car with it carbon fiber under tray. sooo it gets enough cooling.

i saw those vids' but best motoring seems to be more pro-honda than anything..

As for GTR's being moded to +1000 Hp these cars DO exist one was brought down from Japan to New Zealand for a top speed test.

The car was dynoed putting out 1350 hp (at the drive shafts) and went on to record two runs averaging 341.3 KPH over two runs in opposite directions On a WET road.

The car featured HKS forged pistons and crankshaft. Veislide conrods, valves, valve springs, camshafts and fuel rail.

All this in a car that is road registered in Japan:D


I'd like to see an NSX do that in the wet:finger:

There is also an R32 here in N.Z. putting out 1028 HP which places it as New Zealands highest powered import (but still not the fastest:confused: )

The fastest is an R32 GTR which runs the 1/4 mile in 9.4 seconds:devil: and still seems to be getting quicker.

I feel sorry for all you poor people in the states that don't have easy access to the GTR, that is why you think their overhyped, YOUR JELOUS:frog:

I have read this with quite a bit if ammusment. As simon has pointed out it seems those who are yacking away at overhype are the same people who have never have:

A. Never driven one.
B. Never been in one.
C. Never owned one.
D. Never been shit all over by one.

I have owned 3 different Skylines including my newest one a 1992 R32 GTR. I have owned many V8's when I lived in the States, including a 1,400 hp drag car. I have also been in two different Vipers none of which impressed me as much as a ride in a 850 hp GTR. The drag and the GTR race car acclerated nearly identical, yet the GTR can happily go around corners where the drag car couldn't.

For those doubters HKS's R33 drag car has produced 1,568 hp at all four wheels on a hub dyno, and has run 7.46 in the 1/4 mile. It still can go around corners as the rear diff and front diffs are not spooled or locked.

The GTR is not mightest of all, yet they are fun to drive.

Oh and for the record I have already shit all over a 1999 NSX that had a fair bit done to it. I have also done every V8 that has challanged me. That is real.

So if you fall into the 4 catigories up top then maybe you should get your ass into a GTR before you make assumptions and comments on a car you have no idea about.

Originally posted by Razorgtst
Oh and for the record I have already shit all over a 1999 NSX that had a fair bit done to it. I have also done every V8 that has challanged me. That is real.

Was that in a straight line, or on a road track? I just cant accept that with a NSX and a GTR with identical hp numbers, for the GTR to come out the winner. I mean the R34s in JGTC are not 4WD, they are converted to RWD.

-Rob

Originally posted by NB8CT


Was that in a straight line, or on a road track? I just cant accept that with a NSX and a GTR with identical hp numbers, for the GTR to come out the winner. I mean the R34s in JGTC are not 4WD, they are converted to RWD.

-Rob

he said in his sig he had 350Hp so ... way more than the NSX?

Yea thats what I mean, it takes a lot to get a NSX to 350hp, we are talking supercharger here. I agree that he could kick the crap out of a NSX with a tuned GTR, I have no doubt in my mind that he could. But were that NSX and the GTR bone stock, I feel that the NSX would have comeout ahead of the GTR.

you want hard facts about the gt-r's power? read the december issue 1999 of sports compact car. where pro racer Rhy's Millen's drove both on a road course. and the gt-r was a whole 2 seconds faster at the track dispite the fact that it was clocked faster at all three points of the track. 4WD would beat any MR. the harder you push the skyline, it would only go faster. the harder you push the nsx, you would only slide around. if you read any sports compact car from then on. they have driven the nsx. and whenever they drive a really high tech car. they would go. this is one of the most high tech cars that we have ever driven. except the gt-r is more high tech. if the nsx was sooo nice they would've mentioned the nsx instead. plus the nsx is faster then the gt-r in teh straight. its the gt-r that would kill it int eh turns. with its better traction and superior braking. plus the stock gt-r puts out around 320hp even though they say it only puts out 280. think bout it. how can a car that weights 3400lb do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds? thats only .2 seconds slower then a evo which weights 500lbs less but supposibly have the same hp.

Hi Guys. I first read about the GTR in 1990. I read its exploit and saw its photos. It was awesome! Yes, it was pure hype. But it was one which refuses to go away...and refuses for a long long time. I used to tell my then wife..what a car to own...or even to merely look in the flesh! I am a great fan of cars and was into racing since 1988. The GTR stuck in my mind and although I'd never seen one, what more being in one, the hype stays.
In 1994 I saw a 32 in the flesh, for the first time. And it only served to reinforce my liking for it. I wanted one...and wanted it badly.
In 2000, I bought one. From a "crappy"(by GTR standard) 380 rwhp, I had built it into a 524 awhp with stock bottom end except for the forged pistons. The gearbox, chassis (no reinforcement), shafts etc are all stock. And guess what, I drive it EVERY DAY to and fro work, to meetings around our infamous developing country's traffic. No problem at all! Try driving a Lambo around town in the traffic for 1 hr for comparison!
Yes, it is all hype! But the GTR is living up to all the hypes!! Peace all.:cool:

Ok everybody keeps talking about over 1000HP cars those are not normal cars they are racers. don't tell me that a skyline over 1000hp is a daily driver because its not. virtually-but not all- any car can get over 1000hp if you have enough money.
and don't tell me that only with minor mods a skyline ca reach that kind of hp because it's bs. it has to be heavilly moded.
so if you whant to compare cars compare something stock or moded but not to an extent where is a racer and has to be fixed avery other day. compare something fast that you can drive very day.that is fun

Hahah you call my GTR tuned ?????? You kill me. All that is done to my car is twin pod filters, and an exhaust system. I am running factory boost of 12psi as there is no boost controller of any sort on my car.

I drive it every day as it is the only car I currently own here in New Zealand.

I beat that NSX first from a dead start and also during a rolling start. Say what you will at the end of the day the NSX is way over rated.

Oh and I certainly have no idea where you clowns get understeer from. I have no problem diving hard into a corner and accelerating very hard out of it. Just remember the GTR is 2wd until you lose traction or the G-Force sensors tell the computer to apply front wheel torque. :finger:

I tried to post this morning...but apparently didn't take. Here's what's up with the Skyline hype. The car is the sh*t.
Stop comparing it to the NSX in driveability...that's ridiculous. Track comparisons? How about the Nurburgring....Good enough for you?
Stock R34 on stock tires.....7:59
Stock NSX-R on stock tires.....8:32
Thirty three seconds is an assload when you're talking about a span of 9 minutes.

Anyway...on to the real reason of hype....
It's one of the most technologically advanced cars in the world. AWD as needed, Super Hicas, it's own special blend of traction control, twin turbo....etc. It was designed with racing in mind. All for 40,000USD
Stock 323 HP (280 are dealer numbers....if you knew anything about the GTR, that would be the first thing you would know). Torque nearly matches it at 315 ft-lbs. Another two-thousand dollars in mods (boost controller, intakes, exhaust, and computer) will net you over 400/367 (HP/ft-lbs). I'm getting all these numbers from my experience and the dynos of my friend's and my cars. NISMO pulled 488HP from the wheels on a stock car with the mods I just named (I imagine that would be hard for your run of the mill tuner however...)
There is another American that spent a little over 9000 dollars in mods and has an 850HP car that he drives to work everyday (in Yokohama traffic)
Those 1300HP beasts are still 2.6L blocks although they have reinforced pistons, crank, headgasket, and new camshafts. Those cars are in the neigborhood of 25,000 in mods....but they're drag cars....what do you expect. The ironic part of it....they can still turn, they still handle, although it is a bit degraded, it's still driveable. Top Secret had their 1053HP R33 at Bay Bridge three weeks ago that they drove there. (Their shop is about 40km away). It's registered and all.
The cars really are amazing. I've owned Mustangs, a Lotus, two Camaros and currently own a '67 Vette along with my GTR. Nothing has come close. I driven my friend's Black '95 NSX. Nice car to be in...and people say...oooh an NSX, but I get the same thing in my GTR....and the NSX isn't nearly as fast. Great car...great for mods...not really all that expensive.

I think that most of this hype that is around skyline is because it isn't avaliable in the US or Europe , but it's still an amazing machine , check the TopGear video , where Tiff plays with that computer , it's crazy how many details you can get from it , and it shows the Lateral G and stuff too , and you can download it into your PC , c'mon , is the next skyline going to be driven in virtual reality glasses and with a gamepad...

And no it's not that i don't like it , i would fancy a skyline as hell , but
a) it isn't worth that much
b) this all 1300 or 1600 Hp talk isn't all that , you could get it in any car , it's only about the money... For sure the 4WD helps to deal with it , but again dauer-porsche 962 Le Mans is still the fastest legal road car here in europe , it runs 406 kph (253.67 mph) and it's "only" 850 hp , so it's not all about the HP...

maclaren F1 unrestricted did 260

no rev limiter


thats the fastest car in Europe

ok a lot of ppl said this.. its because that we dont get it

oops.. i meant to say more but i pushed tab and space thinking that i doing something else.. anyway.. it makes sense to be hyped to.. ITS basically the only jpn superkickass car we dont get. otha then the new s15 silvia which .. hey what a coincidence is also becoming a hype.. looks weve had the rx7, the 300zx, supra, the older silvias (240sx), soo u see. if we didnt have the supra do u think that itd be a hype over in america.. yes .. hell ppl still hype over it and we have it soo imagine for the skylines which we need 90k for the r34 and 30k for an r32.. while in jpn u need like 40k r34 nad well iu dont kno im just geussing like a 15-25k for an r32 .sooo well there u go.. kick ass car we cant get soo ppl want to get it..soo theres the hype

As I have read this thread more and more much is becoming clearer. I have seen comparisions with the NSX, Corvette, Maclaren F1, etc.

For those in the States you can get GTR's through MotoRex, and you will pay through the noise. I will not disagree one bit! Hell $30,000 USD for an R32 is robbery, but that is because they are the only ones who can vin them. Now that $30,000 USD would be nearly $70,000 NZD ( New Zealand). I picked up an older auto trader, 3 months old. Inside I found three American muscle cars. A 1998 ZR1 Vette ($100,000 NZD), 1986 Iroc Camaro ( $40,000 NZD), 1972 Stingray ($35,000 NZD).

Now considering you can pick up the following here (dependant on condition and milage) : 1989-1994 R32 GTR - $22,000-$30,000 NZD ; 1995 -1998 R33 GTR $45,000-$60,000 NZD; R34 GTR (second hand) $90,000 - $105,000 NZD ; Brand new R34 Vspec II $122,000 NZD.

Now for those doing conversions multiply NZD by .43 and you will be close to the amounts in USD.

It is all dependant on where you live and what your choices are.

Originally posted by Razorgtst
Hahah you call my GTR tuned ?????? You kill me. All that is done to my car is twin pod filters, and an exhaust system. I am running factory boost of 12psi as there is no boost controller of any sort on my car.


Yea I know, but on an NSX an intake does nothing but sound cool and an exhuast and header get you like 20hp. Im just gonna shut up now as you all keep shutin me down here:D Just want everyone to know that I love the NSX and the GTR.

I'm just curious though, how many of you that say the GTR is so much better than the NSX have driven BOTH?? I'm not being a smart ass I just wanna know.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
maclaren F1 unrestricted did 260

no rev limiter


thats the fastest car in Europe

What do you mean as no rev limiter? You can rev the engine to f.e 12k in the 1st gear and then it blows up or what?:bloated:
McLaren does 244,375 mph to be exact , that is 391 kph and it doesn't go anywhere further... Anyway what do you mean by the fastest car in Europe? I was talking about street legal cars , and a car with no rev limiter won't be street legal anywhere... Anyway about fast cars i think we have some of those which attempted to break the speed record and ran 600+mph , and some of them are here in Europe...

I have not had the pleasure of being in an NSX, though one day I will. I really have nothing against them, and I do respect them. I have a preference in the GTR is all, and I know how far I can push it. At the end of the day everyone will have their own personal likes and dis-likes. That does not mean this person is right or this person is right. There are just too many variables in the automotive world.

As much as I will shutter about this I have been in a seriously modded RX and have to admit it went like a bat out of hell, and would easily wipe the streets with my GTR, though honestly I am no fan of the RX7.

I tell you what though one of my biggest dreams is to get in a Macleren one day, but hell I would imagine I am not alone on that one either :)

I will second that Razor.:D There is a hotshot over here who has a McLaren (among his 40-50 other cars!, including of course a gunmetal r32 GTR). I just hope one day his McLaren has a flat tyre or something:D and I would come and help him out and he would say "hey thanks for the help, would you like to drive the car?".
Hahahahahahahaha in my dream!:D :D :o

hahahah oh man this guys got more cars then i got shirts~!! what da hell~~

Skylines are the best no questions asked


EVERYONE STFU

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
Skylines are the best no questions asked


EVERYONE STFU

:rolleyes:

Good job backing up your statements. What crawled up your ass tonight man?

seriously, NSX.... there's no room for under-age little punk asses like yourself in here.

i second third and fourth that motion...

i also motion to adjourn...

what is his deal?

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
Skylines are the best no questions asked


Ok I'm asking. Why?

I think all that NSX is trying to state (albeit in an interesting way) how stupid this thread really is.

Its like me saying, why is there so much hype over Britney Spears, and then it turns into "who is a better fuck, Britney Spears or Jennifer Lopez?)

Most of us( :D )will never know, so all we can do is speculate and it would go on forever.

I wouldnt mind trying to find out for myself though:jump:

I dont think the Skyline is overhyped at all, just over priced for most people in America. Not everybody can appreciate the skyline for what it actually is, a car with absolute enormous potential with a near perfect design (R34 GTR). If you wanna talk about cars that are overhyped, I would have to say Honda is #1. Theres not a day that goes by that I dont see at least 10 riced out Civics growlin along with a body kit and a fart muffler pushing 150hp. Skylines are unique cars because here in the states, you NEVER see them and with enough money and know how, you can have a street/ strip ready twin turbo AWD monster that will eat anything America's streets has to offer. Oh but what about Vipers, I've personally seen modded LS1 Camaro's (yes a Camaro) rip Vipers a new asshole. I dont own a skyline and I most likely never will, but I appreciate this car because its simply unique. :bandit: