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BarbaraInTx
11-03-2004, 12:27 PM
2001 T&C

In cool weather, our passenger back sliding door would just "pop" and not open.

It did this in the past winter when it was 34 or colder. (only 3-4 times all winter)
Later in the day the door will open correctly.
But now it is doing this and it is only in the 50's the last two mornings.

(driver's side door works fine)


What is the solution?

Thank you for any help.
Barbara

dmburrows
11-04-2004, 05:37 AM
My 2002 does the same thing. It started not long after I got it in Feb. At first I thought it was when it was cold, but now it's almost all the time first thing. Usually after that first no-op it works the rest of the day.

BarbaraInTx
11-06-2004, 07:31 PM
~bump~
Anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks,
Barbara

drummertom
11-06-2004, 07:53 PM
I think this is a common problem on all mopar minivans w/PDL's. I had a 90 that did it and now my 95 started to do it. I had the door panel off for another reason and lubricated all moving parts with WD40 and I think it fixed my problem. Hasn't really gotten that cold here yet.

hundahunta
11-09-2004, 09:51 PM
check your b-pillar weatherstrip for any deformity

BarbaraInTx
11-09-2004, 10:31 PM
Thank you for all the reply's.
I will try them all.

hundahunta
11-09-2004, 11:52 PM
just checked and found flash 23-004-03 FLASH: POWER SLIDING DOOR AND/OR POWER LIFTGATE WILL POP OFF BUT NOT POWER OPEN

woodgab
11-16-2004, 10:10 AM
just checked and found flash 23-004-03 FLASH: POWER SLIDING DOOR AND/OR POWER LIFTGATE WILL POP OFF BUT NOT POWER OPEN

Anyone read this 23-004-03 TSB? I may get the alldata on the T&C but don't like to think that I'd need to spend $15 on the Voyager TSB to get something that likely applies to all power door Mopar's :screwy: . I checked and this title is not part of the TSB's for the T&C.

Chris

hundahunta
11-16-2004, 10:59 PM
oops wrong one try this

23-013-01 REV. A SLIDING DOOR DIFFICULT TO OPEN OR CLOSE, B-PILLAR WEATHERSTRIP MISSING, DEFORMED, OR LOOSE

stevew001
11-17-2004, 06:43 PM
Thank you for all the reply's.
I will try them all.

Hi,

Did you find a solution to your problem with the power door? The drivers side door on my 2001 Grand Voyager has just started to do the same thing. i.e. Pops open but does not engage the motor to pull the door back.

Hope you can help,

Steve.

woodgab
11-18-2004, 10:46 AM
Steve, et al.,

Just got call from dealer for my "pop no open" condit. they said "motors are weak and aim to replace both". Also said not to expect good operation of these things whenever severely cold (sub-freezing?).

this confirms my suspicion that it was mechanical. Like other electrics, these things die over time. So, two new solenoids under warrantee. I got a 3mo. / 3,000 mile warr buying used w/75k and am amazed to know the doors are covered.

Chris

PS - seat heat was not. $211 for each element.

stevew001
11-18-2004, 06:23 PM
Thanks for the reply Chris,

The seat heaters on my Voyager were replaced under warranty as well!

As far as the door goes, it sounds like its worth me taking the door trim off and checking that the solenoid is not gummed up.

Do you know if any of the workshop manuals cover the 2001 - on Grand Voyagers?

Steve

woodgab
11-19-2004, 09:55 AM
Steve,

I wish I did have a factory manual. I am currently on the fence about going DIY for this type of thing, or paying for a warranttee.

If I were on the hook for the doors, first, I would open them and look underneath where the pinion of the drive motor extends to the track, then I'd see if the mounting assembly down there looked intuitive and tackle as much as possibe without the manual. It *may* be real easy to get the motor out and swapped.

I'd be curious what the parts sources want for a new one. I've been frustrated trying to find a parts source for this van. Not for obvious things like brake pads, but for potentially proprietary stuff like these motors, seat heat elements, etc. Anyone? Is there a Chrysler dealer who is cheap on walk-in customers?

They called back on my seats. Evidentally, the driver's side needs an entire new back support for $900 installed. This and the two $211 elements make for a pretty big bill just for seat heat.

????warranttee???? Pricing?? I gotta search some more.

Chris

dmburrows
11-20-2004, 03:52 AM
You definitely need to look on ebay. Just make sure to ask questions if unsure of fit and function.

woodgab
11-22-2004, 08:55 AM
I have to revise what I wrote. Now, the dealer is calling back saying he made a typo and the door repair is not covered. Its $300 per motor and 2hrs per door for a total of $936.

DIY'ing the doors requires removing the interior panels. Its a 2hr job per Chrysler's book, so, would need to budget extra time.

So, all that's being done to our van is repairing seat heat and door motors. The total bill? $2,000 plus :(

Chris

woodgab
11-26-2004, 06:31 AM
OK, its a couple days latter, the van is back in our hands and the doors still don't work right. We've had it one full day and the seems to open every 3 of 5 tries, instead of one, or two. Its above freezing, between 40-50.

The shop that did this is a "5 star" dealership. Can anyone tell me if the power doors ever worked on these vans, or was it just some out the door gimmick to sell them to unsuspecting new car buyers long ago?

First Chrysler product, loosing confidence rapidly..

TIA

Mr Mel
01-01-2005, 04:07 PM
Passanger side door just pops on cold days by noon it is ok not found any help on the web as to what the source of the problem really is cleaned all electrical contacts and that helped and weather strip treatment but still acts up

BarbaraInTx
02-01-2005, 07:14 PM
Doors are still not opening when cold.

I'm not happy about it. This is not a cheap van.

I keep checking back here to see if anyone knows how to fix it without having to go and replace motors. ($$)



Barbara in Tx.

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