help picking new car

I am wanting to buy a new car i have between $5000-$7500 to purchase the car and will save for the engine parts. I was wondering which would be a better car to race.I am plannin on putting at least 5-6 grand in the engine. I like both the acura integra and the honda prelude i am wondering which would cost less to make a 11-12 sec car that will make a good daily driver thanks sorry if im in the wrong forum.
chris

Why a Honda?

It would take way too much time, effort, and money to put those into the 12s.

I think a turbo, i/e/h/c, and a damn good driver can drop a teg GS-R or, if lucky enough, Type R into the high to mid 12s? I say look on Autotrader for a GS-R or Type R, if thats what you want. Personally, I'd go with a 1st or 2nd Gen Eclipse GS-T or GS-X, but thats me.

yea i knew some one would say y a honda or acura but i like them yea i was plannin on spending quit a bit im going to turbo, bore new cams crank all sorts of stuff like that im also kinda looking at a rx7 its a 1995 both of the others i would like 96-2000

If you do all of that to a Teg GS-R or Type R, I'm sure you could get it into the 12s. I'm not that knowledgable on Asian Imports, but I'm pretty sure that would work. Personally, I know I'll cath flack for this, but I'd go with a 'Teg, I think they look better than RX-7s, but thats just me.

how many miles does the RX7 have? and how much?

well your best bet would be either like a gsr or maybe even civic si if you want handa/acura. that rx-7 most likely has some major problems if its going for that cheap though

its mainly highway but a little over 100000 he said around 7500

i have heard its got some problems but dont really care since i will be rebuilding the engine top to bottom and same with the tranny

geez, it'll cost way more than 5-7k to get a teg into 12 including cost of car, just get a 1g DSM all wheel drive turbo, or maybe mk3 Supra turbo might not hit 12's but you'll be fast from a roll if you mod it right.

a twin turbo rotary must be rebuilt at about 90,000 miles. and a rebuilt will cost like 3 times the price of a piston engine.

i would recomend a 86-91 RX7 and swap a V8 engine into it.

a twin turbo rotary must be rebuilt at about 90,000 miles. and a rebuilt will cost like 3 times the price of a piston engine.



ha it doesn't need to be rebuilty at 90k miles, if it was properly maintained and not abused it can last longer than a piston engine plus

As a consolation, BEST case scenarios IF all these parts are in good condition: apex seals (check wear spec) apex seal springs (should be good) corner seals (rubber plugs need to be replaced, but metal outer "shell" should good) corner seal springs (should be good) oil control o-ring metal casings (iffy - soft oil o-rings seals need to be replaced) side seals (should be good) side seal springs (should be good) rotors (make sure ALL seals slide freeing in their respective grooves) rotor housings (no metal flaking or gouges - "inside" surface should be free or surface damage) side/center housings (same as rotor housings, but pay careful attention to water o-ring grooves) (This is the important one, as you're pretty sure you got a coolant seal leak.)This leaves the follow parts that NEED to be replaced: corner seal rubber plugs (x12) water o-rings (inner x4, outer x4) oil control o-rings (inner x4, outer x4) front oil cover o-ring front oil cover o-ring (white plastic) retaining ring oil filter pedestal o-ring (x2, if needed) dowel pin o-rings (x8) tension bolt "stat-o-seal" washers (x19) [I think it was 19 total?] front main oil seal (if needed) rear mail oil seal (if needed) rear stationary gear o-ring (if needed) lower intake manifold gasket upper intake manifold gasket miscellaneous paper gaskets on turbos (if needed)This actually ends up costing within $500...




Really costs 3 times as much a piston engine.......read a little before saying something like that.

1G DSM if you wanna go that low and still have a 11-12 sec street car. Talon Tsi AWD, Eclipse GSX, etc. 1G DSM's might not look that great compared to the 2G's, but dont have as many issues as the 2G's. Remember...6-bolt is better if you want those times. 2G's and later 1G's have 7-bolt. Anyhow, good luck choosing a car, but 11-12 second reliable, cheap, and good looking cars are very hard to find for even 8K of investment. Good luck!

I personally dont like the 1st gen DSM's sure they are cheap and get real fast fro real cheap, but to me they are pretty ugly, not real ugly but nany cars that arent much more look WAY better IMO, like the 2nd gens, the 5th/6th gen civic, the 2nd/3rd gen integras, preludes lok pretty good but I dont like the dash in the 92+.

I KNOW you can get a GSR into the 12's with a turbo, but not on the stock internals, the engine cant handle enough boost stock to hit 12's. Id say high 13's would be attainable on a stock engine with bolt ons and a turbo, maybe low 13's if its tuned GOOD and the boost is on the upper end of the "safe" range.

but GSR's arent cheap, can get good deals sometimes, especially on east coast.

also, why 96+ thats when they went OBD2, I would stay with the 94-95 GSR or the pre 92-95 ludes so you dont have to mess with it, I have never actually read a good reason why, bit its mentioned alot that OBD2 is just more of a pain when modding/tuning, the computer is more strict about what it will let you do or something like that. not 100% on that though

Three words


LTI Fox body

If you buy this car your in the 13's stock. And its in your price range. Look for a z28 with around 60-100k

I would go with a z28 too. If your looking for straight line speed your cheapest bet is displacement

this is the cheapest way to have a fast car RX7+V8 = FAST
in order to have a fast car you must have a good HP/WEIGHT ratio what better way to have a second gen RX7 (light) with a Big V8 :grinyes: check out the links.

http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/neilp.html Chevy V8
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/rex.html Ford V8
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/markcorbett.html runs 11 secs
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/gen2rx75.0.jpg 5.0 mustang engine

What do u think?

if you have enough money to fully build a honda why not start with something better and build that. If you really want front wheel drive mabey an srt4 there like 15k almost new and like 230bhp i belive. that would be a better sleeper than a honda and more unique IMO. If your like me and don't really care for american cars wrx's are cheap and quick. good luck on your new car and just get what you really want.

NOw that I think of it a wrx would be a really good car to mod out like that, but you wont find one in your price range.

no way a SRT4 is more of a sleeper than a honda, hondas look like hondas, and the SRT4 looks like the SRT4, mean looking

I would again recommend the DSM.

If you need looks, then get a 2g, if you just need speed, then get an AWD turbo DSM.

Then again if u mainly highway race, look into a FWD turbo

I might get flamed for this, but AWD is a disadvantage from a roll (a small one, but still one), and AWD systems tend to break more, or need more maintanence.

But if u need 1/4 speed, then get an AWD DSM turbo IMO. Just depends on if u want looks or not

I don't understand thinking an SRT4 is a sleeper... They look nice and aggressive.. Bad ass cars (for a neon ;p ).

Go with a Z28! Pretty.... so pretty...

I know a guy with a mid-90s escort that runs 13s with a turbo, but i have no idea what he spent on it or what other mods it has

My buddy had one of those turbo escorts in high school. It was a factory turbo and damn fast. I just don't know if you would be able to find one now.

Looks wise the DSM's look way better then dime a dozen integra's, and civics. I'd go with the DSM considering the AWD would be a big advantage to try and get into the 12's. If you were really serious you'd buy a 240z and drop in a v8, and be in the 12's in no time.

if youre talking about the 2G's then yes I agree but integras look WAY better than teh 1G's, especially the 94+, but even the 90-93 looks much better.

get a z28...or a bike....little 600s run low 11's stock...haha

I agree..... ls1..
buy it in your range, rebuild the engine, and supercharge/turbo the car. Many superchargers available, and will make that car fast as hell. Turbos are pricey, and harder to find "kits" but if you do the work yourself on a custom kit, it will turn heads....with whiplash.

get a z28...or a bike....little 600s run low 11's to high 10s stock...haha

If you were really serious you'd buy a 240z and drop in a v8, and be in the 12's in no time.
i didnt know they sold kits for the 240, but i guess they do scince i saw a 240 with a V8, but dont know where to find V8 kits for the 240, but i do know where to find for RX7's (click down there)
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/neilp.html Chevy V8
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/rex.html Ford V8
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/markcorbett.html runs 11 secs
http://members.tripod.com/~grannys/gen2rx75.0.jpg 5.0 mustang engine

get a z28...or a bike....little 600s run low 11's to high 10s stock...haha
any1 else hear that echo?

maybe he doesnt know bout the edit button cuz it did change slightly

no i already have a 900cc ninja i dont need another bike i like the way some cars look but no way an escort or a tallon or eclipse just dont like the looks

not even the 2G's I think they look better than the tegs/civics. but I love the 3rd gen teg though. you do see em alot but when they are modded up nice and cone clean they are SO nice, better than the modded neons, cavaliers, 1G DSM's, probes, preludes, older celicas, etc...

new celicas are sick though.

What about a early 90s supra?
I saw one here about ummm 3 years ago I think that was going for $3,200,(91 model I think) it was a turbo and was a really clean looking car I started to buy it but at the time I was already into the superchared scene and I didn't want to cross over, and in my opintion the supra will look much nicer then the civic or teg but thats just me.

Edit: Turbo buicks are always a plus too, and not many people would expect one to blow them away.

Or a first gen Vr4....

Might cost a bit more to get in the 12's, but is one of the best looking cars available, plus AWD will help your launchs ;)

and first gens dont cost to much anymore, and theyre alot more unique/rare than anything next to the escort hahaha....

Amish_kid remember that i said that a rebuild on a rotary would be like 3 times as expensive as a piston engine? on page one you said a rotary rebuild would be $500 and you told me to read before i post well i did some research and here it is
Soft/Hard seal recondition - 12A/13B - 13B TT ($2545 - $2895 - $3295)
New rotor housings,recondition - 12A/13B - 13B TT ($2850 - $3475 - $3975)
New rotors/eccentric shaft - 12A/13B - 13B TT ($4760 - $5545 - $6085)
http://www.rxforyour7.com/Rotary%20Engine.htm#D <<<(Click here)
and dont get me started on street porting a rotary engine.
and yes it is recomended that you rebuild your TWIN TURBO ROTARY at about 90K miles. and yes some rotary engines last longer than piston engines but not the TWIN TURBO ROTARY engines.
So you should do some research about rebuilding an engine from TOP TO BOTTOM. (key words are in caps)
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